Conservatives You Like

Gergen is Jodie Foster in The Inside Man.

alfred, if you haven't already read garry wills's "confessions of a conservative" i highly recommend it -- equal parts hilarious stories about working at national review in the '50s (wills was unnerved by the fact that everyone there talked like WFB) and interesting musings about what it means to be so old-school conservative you find yourself disagreeing with virtually everything in the modern GOP platform.

pat buchanan is right about american foreign policy, but regarding everything else he can go eat a dick.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/sep/22/00006/

^^^ this is pretty much otm, too.

isn't buchanan a staunch apologist for the vietnam war?

current american foreign policy, i mean...

Nancy Pfotenhauer <3

thanks for the recommendation, J.D.

Except that racism isn't a logical position. It's not a selective political position (like spending) or a selective/hypocritical morality. It's this insane, illogical, batshit crazy thing. And I can't imagine that racists would suddenly give up being racist just because Jindal is a Republican.

this is an interesting topic and probably deserves its own thread, but i actually sorta disagree with this. Douthat makes the (in my mind accurate) point that many republicans are eager to somehow prove that they arent racists. (contrary to douthat, i think it probably stops there). However, I think that a candidate like jindal would get suppot from the more insidious forms of racism within the USA, the kind that tends to deny racism on a personal level while ignoring more ingrained institutional racial problems. in that sense, a candidate like jindal would get support for the same reason people say "some of my friends are black!"

NBA analyst and former player Greg Anthony

shockah! turn in yr soul patch, soldier

they've all been downhill since edmund burke

I like the more intellectual ones, because all of the "conservatives" I don't like also don't read very much.

i recently discovered (via facebook) that a former coworker is...if not a conservative, a libertarian, or something equally inane. his political opinions are naive and bizarre, but I still really like him, he was funnier than shit and never talked about this stuff in the office.

He's the only conservative you know?

Well, AKM *does* live in SF.

i enjoy reading ross douthat, and was pretty happy w/ the times replacing kristol w/ him. will result in columns x10000 times better and actually worth reading.

same goes for douthat's buddy reihan salam. i like him, too. andrew sullivan's good but i hardly think of him as a conservative in many ways. i enjoy reading david brooks, david frum, too.

i like emund burke, ts eliot and heidegger

I like my parents and most of my family.

he is the only conservative I know that I like.

Vincent Gallo, Ted Nugent and my immediate family...

Alice Cooper, too...

The amount of intellectual dishonesty among public conservatives is simply breathtaking. Almost all the people who are presented as conservatives in the public media confine themselves to finding arguments that bolster their foregone conclusions.

For all these folks it is ideology that tells them what is true and facts are things which must be made to conform to and serve their ideology, in precisely the same way that medieval scholastics took the Bible and catholic doctrine as their unquestioned starting point and constructed the whole world around these. Whatever did not conform was argued away, based on doctrinal arguments that could not be supported apart from divine revelation.

At least the batshit libertarians try to think for themselves.

OK this was 4 years ago, but how did no one condemn Andy (still posts here, right?) for naming FRANCISCO FRANCO? I suppose he was the least of 3 evils when compared to his pals Mussolini and Hitler, but LIKEABLE? "Benevolent"?

iirc, I was washing my hair at the time. Sorry. If it makes you feel better, I condemn that Andy fellow for his utterly laughable contentions about Franco. Who knows what he was smoking at the time?

I caught the Log Cabin Republican Nat'l convention on C-Span this morning and I'm thinking I might like Christine Todd Whitman. I vaguely remember her locking horns with the Bush Admin when she served at the EPA, but had kind of forgotten about her until today. Any Jerseyites around here have any strong opinions on her one way or the other?

O_O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Todd_Whitman#Racial_profiling_controversy

i own her biography (and have never read it)

i have a very clear memory of a car w/ an "impeach florio" bumpersticker on it (likely a whitman supporter) but was too young then to know what was up

as republicans go not too bad but a shitty gov even by nj standards

Right now on CNN the anchor is interviewing a Log Cabin Republican. The LCR dude is being reasonable and articulate, the anchor is being a real asshole. It's kind of lol but mostly sad.

I really dig Meghan McCain, mostly because she's stone cold liberal re: social issues and not politically ambitious enough to ever run for office and exercise her conservative views on other things.

I can't stand Meghan McCain as she reminds me of my country club Republican relatives. They, too, tend to be fashionably liberal with social issues but when it comes to their money and the right to be a boring, rich snob they hide behind right-wing rhetoric and will FIGHT for it. Spending any significant amount of leisure time with people like that is enough to bring out the spirit of '68 in anybody - trust me.

megan mccain got some big titties

― and what, Tuesday, September 2, 2008 3:19 PM (7 months ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0f/HankHill.jpg/250px-HankHill.jpg

parents of my son's best friend. they're great people, we've become good friends too, endless booze-soaked dinners where we discuss everything under the sun EXCEPT politics.

people on this thread like
John McCain
and
Boris Johnson

I don't like them

parents of my son's best friend. they're great people, we've become good friends too, endless booze-soaked dinners where we discuss everything under the sun EXCEPT politics.

― m coleman, Monday, April 20, 2009 9:38 AM (3 hours ago

When my kid was in a 1 through 8 private school I met folks like this. Now he's in 9th grade at a public high school, and I'm out of touch with those folks.

People on this thread liked John McCain 5 years ago before he rather publicly shat on all of his public goodwill with the worst Presidential campaign I remember seeing in my lifetime.

http://twitter.com/mileycyrus/status/1523053446

(oh wait, I'm supposed to like her? nevermind)

^^^

How awesome is that message against a backdrop of John Lennon fan art?

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/05/11/2009-05-11_meghan_mccain_a_real_pain_at_dc_dinner.html

The security guard sent her to talk to someone to sort out the situation, but Meghan got bratty and nastily told him, ‘We’ll just stand here then,’ like an insolent child,” our source said, adding that after dealing with the guard, “She muttered to her friends, ‘Does he even know who the f--- I am?’ ”

I'm feeling so self-righteous and justified right now for criticizing her a few weeks back. She's from the same young rich Republican club that houses people like Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag. DO NOT WANT.

At least Ann Coulter is funny and makes for consistent entertainment.

At least Ann Coulter is funny and makes for consistent entertainment.

you know, i really don't understand people who think coulter is entertaining in the slightest.

At least one member of the GOP had fun. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin couldn’t make the festivities due to tending to her state’s flooding problem, so she sent hubby, Todd, who had a whale of a time.

Todd happily lapped up the attention from his tablemates and rarely left the side of his date for the evening, Fox News anchor Greta van Susteren.

The two became so close that we caught them hanging out together well past midnight at Capitol File magazine’s annual after-dinner bash.

oooh this is how rumors start

he two became so close that we caught them bhanging out together well past midnight at Capitol File magazine’s annual after-dinner bash.

no, this is how rumors start

Politico reporting van Susteren / Palin affair; photos on the way

You know old Todd wet his wick in some Greta pudding last Saturday night!

Posted By: what's good for the goose... | May 11, 2009 at 04:49 PM

you know, i really don't understand people who think coulter is entertaining in the slightest.

She's entertaining in the classic adversary intellectual sense. She knows the exact thing to say to cause her political opponents to anger, and she's usually witty about it on top of that. (Her improvised reply to Joy Behar on Larry King Live last week was great television)

In that sense she's in the Tucholsky and Mencken (perhaps German?) tradition of being, if being nothing else, a great hater. To say you don't like her or her opinions, or that you think she's hateful, is to miss the point entirely.

i think shes ugly

I agree w/stevie, that she is not entertaining, and it is bcz I do not enjoy the sort of humor that is 'riling people up for the lulz' from anyone of any stripe.

Tempted to start a "who is ILX's Ann Coulter" thread but that would just be a bad bad bad idea