xxp Yeah, that just seems polite.
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I dunno I guess I do it too to some extent - altho I'm more inclined to try shift the conversation and find common ground about a particular subject than to express an opinion I don't really share. If someone tells me they like something I hate I'm liable to just keep my mouth shut. unless they're being really obnoxious about it.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
did ILX used to be less.. what it is now? I seem to remember it being friendlier in the greenspun days
Haha, what prompted that, Daria?
btw this thread inspired me to listen to some Sleepytime Gorilla Museum at work today. it was OK.
I walked out of a show of theirs once. I, uh, couldn't take it.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Re: Wilco No, not really. It's just going to be something else that goes in the "to listen" pile, and I still owe reviews on enough crap that I don't need more. I was just using them as a general "new release"-ish thing, even though it's a year old. It was something that my girlfriend's sister just couldn't believe I hadn't heard when it came out, and I kinda felt like I wasn't willing to spend the money and effort to listen to something that I'd probably like incrementally less than all the previous Wilco albums.
This was a nice by-product of starting to listen to the radio again, five years ago, after ignoring it for so long: I could have conversations with co-workers or friends about Jay-Z or whatever.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people who complain about folks only liking "obscure" stuff have a really warped view of what's obscure and what's mainstream. Like, my blindspot tends to be the big "indie" like Arcade Fire or Belle and Sebastian or Spoon (anymore). So it's like, y'know, I was excited about the new Janet Jackson or Rihanna or whatever, even though I probably won't buy 'em, I'm at least radio familar and enjoy 'em. But that mid-tempo rock? I'm just never anywhere that I hear it, and I don't really feel like seeking it out just so I can have conversations about it.
― I eat cannibals, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I think this kind of douchebagery is a symptom of youth. Once you get past a certain age, people aren't really like this anymore. Because eventually they realize that they would rather have friends and that they are going to die someday.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Most threads I've posted on aside from rolling 2008 ringtone?
― daria-g, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
surmounter, i've found that lots of people who don't have patience for artistic appreciation suck as people. they tend to be douchebags into self-promotion, who can't be bothered with shit that doesn't directly advance their douchebag selves. (i guess there's an argument to be made that demonstrating your obscure knowledge is self-promotion, albeit demented and sad; either way, i'll take that over dudes discussing how awesome they are at golf and getting laid or whatever.) conversely, like catsup, i've found that a taste for obscurity is a good sign someone doesn't suck as a person. but hey, we all run in different circles
― kamerad, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link
hmm... i mean, i think it seems like i don't appreciate a taste for the obscure. i certainly do -- i mean, in certain circles, some of what i listen to is obscure, and it's always disappointing when people can't relate to it. yup just wanted to clear that up.
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link
it's strange how even Kate Bush is so obscure to a lot of people i interact with... that's always such a let-down.
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link
who the fuck is kate bush
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link
"I only listen to top 40 and Sublime Frequencies"
--Steven Q. Shasta, Wakeboard Extraordinaire
― jaxon, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is one of my favorite bands, not because they are obscure, but because they are AWESOME.
your results may vary, of course
― John Justen, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link
SGM put on one of the worst shows I've ever seen at the Elbow Room. Later, I noticed that they didn't look anything like their photos, or sound anything like their clips. I never bothered to figure out what happened, but SGM was on the bill, and the band claimed to be SGM. Is it possible there are two?
― I eat cannibals, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link
was there a botoh dancer at the show you're thinking of? They did a tour a few years ago that was 100% improvised with a dude in a cage.
― John Justen, Friday, 11 April 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link
these days i mostly rely on metacritc and the quarterly "waht is best" roundups in the various rolling threads. try to hear the stuff everybody in respective threads agrees upon, hasn't steered me wrong yet.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 12 April 2008 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
what is it with people who think completely obscure music is cool?
All music is cool
― water, Saturday, 12 April 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean, ugh. does this piss anyone off? it's like you're not really with it unless you like some band no one's heard of
why does it piss you off? because you really to be "WITH IT"? who do you hang out with, 13 year olds???
― winston, Saturday, 12 April 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link
really WANT to be
try to hear the stuff everybody in respective threads agrees upon, hasn't steered me wrong yet.
-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver
haha don't worry, there are plenty of land mines waiting to go off in your face in those threads
― omar little, Saturday, 12 April 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link
you have to choose between being pissed off about something and not giving a shit about it; you can't have it both ways
― winston, Saturday, 12 April 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I think what Surmounter is talking about is some left-field bands that other people have tried to sell him on that aren't actually any good. One of the sad truths about the inability of the vast majority of musicians to make any money these days is that many of them fit the same description.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 12 April 2008 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Also stence's comment was perfect and funny, jaymc you gotta lighten up!
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 12 April 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link
some left-field bands that . . . aren't actually any good. One of the sad truths about the inability of the vast majority of musicians to make any money these days is that many of them fit the same description.
Name names.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 April 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link
At least Surmounter has a sense of humor about being a special princess.
― libcrypt, Saturday, 12 April 2008 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link
???
― winston, Saturday, 12 April 2008 03:44 (sixteen years ago) link
http://blog.gaseum.co.kr/attach/2/1033-113075_1_F.jpg
― ian, Saturday, 12 April 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Argh, I know it's funny, that's why I said "haha!" at the end of my post. At the time, though, I was kind of like, "who does this clown think he is?"
― jaymc, Saturday, 12 April 2008 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Someone's probably already said this, I hope, but I can't be arsed to read through 168 posts of trollbait-carcrash, which I'm assuming is what's here, but surely in the age of the internet barely anything is genuinely obscure anymore, and thus people whining about this are just too thick to google.
― Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 12 April 2008 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahah Sick Mouthy OTM!
Surmounter, I mean no offense. I know we share a love of Kate Bush, and that in itself is a deep bond. But I also think "coming across as a 12-year-old" is a valid comment to make about your posts at times.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 12 April 2008 06:36 (sixteen years ago) link
There are plenty of people in this world who think Kate Bush is obscure.
― Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 12 April 2008 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh bloody hell sure there are! And you couldn't believe my eyes when someone told me they heard Kate Bush in an elevator in London I was like WTF? That would never happen in the US in a billion years.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 12 April 2008 07:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know, virtually every indie rock band of the last eight years!
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 12 April 2008 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Also: Pearl Jam. There's a reason it's rare to hear them at "90s nostalgia nights" (shudder)
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 12 April 2008 11:44 (sixteen years ago) link
It's kind of amazing Pearl Jam became as huge as they did considering that they had the shelf life of a nanosecond (and I say this as someone who is more positive than negative about them).
― HI DERE, Saturday, 12 April 2008 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link
THIS THREAD TOTALLY MADE ME RETHINK MY ATTITUDES RE: SHIT. WHOA.
― res, Saturday, 12 April 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link
THREAD OF GREAT LEARNING
― John Justen, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link
-- daria-g, Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:01 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Link
it was smaller and more cohesive... but search 'doomie' for some real heartwarming greenspun-era friendliness.
― banriquit, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link
surely in the age of the internet barely anything is genuinely obscure anymore, and thus people whining about this are just too thick to google.
-- Scik Mouthy, Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:31 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link
not outside the mentalist hothouse that is ilx, no. what are these no-obscure-music-knowing rubes supposed to google?
― banriquit, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link
"obscure" "music"
― HI DERE, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.last.fm/group/Obscure+Music+Recommendations
^^ seems to mean radiohead.
― banriquit, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link
1 Radiohead 92 2 The Beatles 64 3 David Bowie 57 4 Belle and Sebastian 51 5 Björk 45 5 Muse 45 7 The Doors 44 7 Sigur Rós 44 9 The White Stripes 43 9 Portishead 43 9 Pink Floyd 43 9 Nine Inch Nails 43
lolololol
― HI DERE, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
"I'm totally into obscure bands, like Pink Floyd and The Beatles!"
― HI DERE, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link
STRANGE
― Surmounter, Saturday, 12 April 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Only real path to obscurity nowadays: Release only on vinyl/cassette/8-track.
― libcrypt, Saturday, 12 April 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
and limited numbered hand-painted CDR.
― sleeve, Saturday, 12 April 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I kind of meant that if someone mentions a band that one hasn't heard of, and thinks may be obscure, that all one has to do is google. Not that one would, when desirous of getting into obscure bands, sit at google typing 'obscure / dreamboat gorllia" or whatever.
― Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 12 April 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think it's obscurity that is attractive. i think that the type of person who explores is attractive.
― cryfok, Saturday, 12 April 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
i met someone who once described his favorite running song as "kind of obscure" and proceeded to explain that it was Blur's "Song #2".
― res, Sunday, 13 April 2008 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Surmounter, Saturday, April 12, 2008 3:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
it makes me feeeel strange
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 13 April 2008 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link