Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me (RIP blogs)

i really don't think Drag City would have be TOO bummed out by moving 7000K units of a TRIPLE album by some crazy ass Ren Faire chick

10 years ago

when will Drag City sign a unicorn is my question

"I'm half unicorn on my mother's side"

http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/oldham2.jpg

lolllllllll

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2511001117_6f8a94e081.jpg

^^^dude has a two song triple album coming out on southern lord i heard

waiting for the vinyl

Yeah dude! Clear vinyl splattered with unicorn blood, limited to 666 copies. Only $350!

Woah, it's a Doomicorn

gonna be a concept album about unicorns i believe

The RIAA does count each disc as a discrete unit, so HOOM would only need to sell 166,667 copies to go gold. But in terms of Soundscan reporting, single-disc albums, triple albums, and box sets are all counted as one unit.

right - I was confusing RIAA & Soundscan - thanks

how do record labels make _any_ money.

they don't. practically all of them who are left including the big ones are now officially doing it 1) for the love and 2) because it's all they know how to do. the money aspect is gone. whether this is a favorable development or no, we will know conclusively in about 20 years by my out-of-thin-air estimate.

Rainb 0)))

starting to believe that new joanna newsom album just part of a big conceptual coup whose centerpiece is this thread

j0hn: so i guess drag city makes enough for their employees to eat and that's about it?

That really bums me out. I mean, shit, I keep buying physical CDs and vinyl hoping that I'm doing my tiny, little part to help support labels like this and it sucks to realize it isn't helping at all.

sometimes i think the only people making money in indie rock are Pitchfork and The Fader

and carles

faders only making money b/c it is technically a "marketing company"

uh, exactly

j0hn: so i guess drag city makes enough for their employees to eat and that's about it?

I don't know drag city's individual situation but afaik that's about the extent of things industry-wide. I try not to make a lot of noise about it in public places for various reasons but the people who work at the record labels work 12+ hour days for ok pay and are awesome people generally speaking and it's sad that the market has told them "you don't really count as far as we-all are concerned"

McDonalds is only making money because they're technically a "fast food restaurant"

― max, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 6:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i am a marketing company

that said, I am pretty certain drag city is stoke with a 7000 opening week - that's strong for an indie, and stronger still for a multi-disc indie record

sometimes i think the only people making money in indie rock are Pitchfork and The Fader

lol & hipsterpuppies amirite??

<3

yeah, when you have a popular meme, Google sends you a check like ASCAP

loooooool

i wonder how many people illegally DL'd this album and are listening to it regularly (and how this compares w/ 7,000 who purchased it).

10,000? 20,000? 6,000,000?

what is money

what the fuck can a unicorn spend a dollar on

Do I have to take a picture of myself kissing my copy and send it to the tumblr to prove my dedication? Just wondering guys.

are you a unicorn?

kissing my copy

eating it would show tru dedication

whiney in all seriousness if you have not already translated that stuff into cold hard cash then you need to either 1) hire a manger working on spec or 2) hire me because if I were in your shoes right now the next 3 months of my rent would already be paid

hipster unicorns

Stuff Hipster Robocops Like

i wonder how many people illegally DL'd this album and are listening to it regularly (and how this compares w/ 7,000 who purchased it)

bigchampagne has those #s I think though you have to pay to see them. I think it's like 10:1 which leads labels to say "we'd be selling all those records if it weren't for the damned internet!" which obv isn't true; not everybody who takes something they can get for free would necessarily buy it given the absence of the free option. my own (again, thin-air based) guess is that sales would maybe be approx. twice what they are across the board w/o the internet, but maybe not, because the internet has increased the amount of exposure indie acts can get - it's a complicated q & there's pretty much zero point in imagining how things might have shaken out otherwise - without the internet, practically no-one would have heard of jn at all

all you have to do is believe

the "big" indies -- Sub Pop, Matador, Merge, etc. -- are at least somewhat profitable, right?

i imagine that would be the case with merge, at least

but maybe not, because the internet has increased the amount of exposure indie acts can get - it's a complicated q & there's pretty much zero point in imagining how things might have shaken out otherwise - without the internet, practically no-one would have heard of jn at all

yeah otm. i feel like it's difficult to pinpoint buying a record as like a definitive moment anymore, too: people might download first and buy later; buy some of it on itunes; go see her next time she's in town; buy the next lp or whatever.

well yeah but in fairness if the album sales could approach the amount of exposure, it'd be good times for artists - it's not like the # of people downloading translates into Newsome selling out the Hollywood Bowl or anything

hey she sold out Harvard!

http://thequietus.com/articles/03830-joanna-newsom-have-one-on-me-album-review

Excellent review by Petra Davis in The Quietus. Sorry for going off topic lulzx

I know Insound is doing pretty well. Moving plenty of vinyl there. I also work at a CD/record store where business is based off of used items mostly, and that model is not like it was but its still holding its own.

Thanks to Amazon presence as well.

What someone should do is print up 500 copies of some weird folk record they made, sneak a few into stores around the world, and then spend the next 20 years planting rumors about this "lost" album's purported greatness but particularly its elusiveness. Maybe every few years coax a few friends to form bands "influenced" by said "lost" record/artist. And then, 20 years down the line, when the price of this ultra rare artifact hits the roof, occasionally auction one off anonymously to pay for your retirement.

Virtually foolproof, I say, though it doesn't take into account the giant asteroid hitting or its impact on vinyl sales.

yes Josh but who's to say such efforts haven't already been undertaken, without success, countless times?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vashti_Bunyan