HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM ILX
― The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
did a search for 'Game of Thrones' to see if this show was already mentioned, and saw nothing about it or the books so...no?
― Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
REALLY GOOD GOOD
this nerd is v v v v excited
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
Anticipating "A Feast For Crows" by George R. R. Martin (Nov. 9)
― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
George R. R. Martin
― The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
whoops. just searched 'game of thrones'. i actually wikipediaed this ages ago when the pilot was first announced. it's coming back to me.
― Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
This will be awesome. I gave up on the books after the first two, but would still like to see it on teevee.
― crazy ass between (askance johnson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
Third book is probably the best.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'd agree with that
― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok so what's going to happen when this show becomes wildly successful and 4 years from now they run out of god damn source material
― did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
tbh if they've any sense they'll get to the end of book four about two and a half seasons in
― thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
also: 'they will come up with their own ending, more quickly and as validly as george r r martin manages to come up with his'
amazing that its been 4 or 5 years since i was really into these books and the next one's still not out...dude isn't gonna finish the series is he :(
it's definitely good tv series material though if they're willing to run it out long enough and don't try to cram each book into a single season (the 3rd book alone is like as long as the entire lord of the rings iirc)
― ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
you think they ought to make it longer? u mad
― thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
not necessarily make it longer, just not do 1 book = 1 season when the books are of varying length and plot complexity (4th book could be cut down by a ton for example to make room for more stuff from the 3rd book)
― ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
They could just do more episodes for the season w/ the 3rd book. I don't see how they could split it up though.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
Gobbled up all the books on the recommendation of ILXors. I'm looking forward to the HBO show, but mostly I just want the new book! And then I guess there are two MORE of these books that he has to write, in-between blogging about the Jets and going to fantasy conventions? Sigh...
― schwantz, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
expected to air around this time next year, alongside the second season of Treme.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
Can't wait for the crossover episode.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
1 book = 1 season makes total sense
they can make that work
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year
sopranos took long breaks
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Never read the books, but pretty keen on watching this.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
what is the point of this if the dude won't even finish the books???? Goddamn stop re-writing them already!!!
― ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
name one HBO show besides Sopranos that didn't/doesn't do a new season every year
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
actually, I'll name another, Curb Your Enthusiasm, but i think that's it
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
The Wire had a significant gap between seasons 3 and 4, but that was partly because they weren't sure if they were going to renew it.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
at this point, I am wondering if it might not be better if some talented cable TV writers finished this thing for him. I am losing faith that he has any idea where he is going with these books.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
We should start bitching about the BSG/Lost style finalefail.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
Turns out Tyrion is Jesus.
― schwantz, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
big love took a break right?
― ian, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
If it hasn't it needs to.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
Carcetti is Littlefinger
That character means nothing to me obv.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
FUCK YEAH THAT IS BRILLIANT!!!!!
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah, that is good casting
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
ditto
Really looking forward to this!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
more teasing
― a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
I hope this starts a trend of classy TV fantasy adaptations. Someone should do Perdido Street Station (though would be fucking expensive). Do these books have monsters and magic and shit, or is it just guys fighting with swords?
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 13 September 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
They have dragons and undead.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
only in the first and last episodes of this season though, that saves you some money right there
― thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
perdido street station feels basically like a miniseries already! which is unfortunate in that the other bas-lag stuff wouldn't really work as further series of.
Exclusive EW pics
Martin has penned the 8th episode.
Also EW On the Set
There's a new language or something that's better than Klingon it says.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
Looks nice and wintry
― Number None, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
Wasn't the guy in the first scene of the trailer also in the Lord of the Ring movies? I guess all "serious" fantasy movies/series now have to look kinda murky with muted colours, since LotR did that. Will anyone make a colourful fantasy movie anymore?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah thats sean bean... ive been reading the first book and im not a fantasy guy at all but its p. good... a lot of the early parts of the story take place in a wintery shithole, which limits your color choices... plus its kind of 'gritty' fantasy and they wanna convey that style/mood...
lotr movies were pretty colorful imo, like that part where they're in elfburg and the dwarf goes AND U HAVE MY AXE... lots of stuff actually... its just the color palette changes depending on context... i mean what do you want dude, rainbows over mount doom..
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipr-wS5iBv0 (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Las
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Last Airbender movie has the same kind of look even though the source material is actually quite colourful and fun.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
have you read the books? if there is one story that needs to look "gritty", it's this one.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
So is each season going to be one book?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
God, I hope not. To me the best way to do it would be to break it down and rearrange in a linear timeline. Jump around between characters, like any good television drama with a ton of characters tends to do.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
he was a tv writer for quite a while and that definitely shows in his writing. a lot of the first season of this show practically just used the book as the screenplay
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:12 (3 days ago) Permalink
The chapters feel perfectly paced to be scenes in a tv show.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:15 (3 days ago) Permalink
Yeah the first book is rather tightly structured for a 900 page novel
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:55 (3 days ago) Permalink
he's talked some about how the act structure of building to commercial breaks by cutting on a cliffhanger really influenced how he approached the chapter structure.
― Clay, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:05 (3 days ago) Permalink
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer)
The first is my favourite in some ways because of this. There's a neat inexorability to the plot which is missing in the later ones, particularly the last two.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:10 (3 days ago) Permalink
yeah the first book is really the best-written one
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:11 (3 days ago) Permalink
The third is the most exciting though.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:12 (3 days ago) Permalink
daario kept making me think of the groosalugg
― shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:14 (3 days ago) Permalink
"The third is the most exciting though."
For sure, I'm not sure I've ever read a book quite like it in that respect. Once it hits its stride it's totally relentless.
― Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:15 (3 days ago) Permalink
Seven Hells at the book's description of Daario! Still, I think it would have been more... interesting if the TV show had gone with something closer to that than the bland, romance novel guy that they did go with.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:22 (3 days ago) Permalink
Daario morelilke Fabio amirite
― DavidM, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:23 (3 days ago) Permalink
FWIW I really don't think his prose is particularly bad. He's never going to win any awards as a stylist of course, but his writing is often pretty evocative, and he has a way of describing the big dramatic scenes in a somewhat understated way which is very effective. Also a good dialogue writer. As Roberto said, there's a ton of far far worse professional SF/fantasy writing out there.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:27 (3 days ago) Permalink
yeah I was pleasantly surprised tbh tho by the third book he's definitely showing tics and by 4/5 he's straight-up lazy/maybe even a little bored.
aka second act problems I suppose
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:40 (2 days ago) Permalink
GRRM vs. Robert Caro in prose style showdown
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:51 (2 days ago) Permalink
if hes too lazy to write the books and hes bad at writing why doesnt he just hire someone to do it for him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:04 (2 days ago) Permalink
I'm strangely upset that TV Daario doesn't have a gold tooth.
― llama del rey (Leee), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:38 (2 days ago) Permalink
― shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat (zachlyon), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:14 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, yes
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:40 (2 days ago) Permalink
― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 21, 2013
he totally should tbh. too rockist tho.
(except I bet he's left instructions just in case something happens to him)
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:44 (2 days ago) Permalink
GRRM supposedly told Benioff and Weiss where he's going in case he kicks off.
― llama del rey (Leee), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:23 (2 days ago) Permalink
the show is going to catch up to the books if he doesn't speed up his process significantly on the last two
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:28 (2 days ago) Permalink
even if it takes 2 more seasons to get to the end of book 5, he needs to have book 6 ready by then and also suddenly has a year to write book 7
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:29 (2 days ago) Permalink
i could imagine him writing the last season of the show before finishing the last book. i think he might revel in the howls of outrage
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:57 (2 days ago) Permalink
otm
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:21 (2 days ago) Permalink
but the show could probably spin the balance of 3 + 4 + 5 into…maybe even 4 more seasons.
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:25 (2 days ago) Permalink
Also GRRM is only two years older than my mom and I want her around for another 30 years :( :(
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:26 (2 days ago) Permalink
which book is the show in now
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 10:56 (2 days ago) Permalink
Three. They're likely to get about 2/3rds of the way through it.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 10:58 (2 days ago) Permalink
do you guys think grrm is outraged over the casting of Daario? like arguing with the producers -- "no, this isn't attractive, this isn't attractive at all."
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:10 (2 days ago) Permalink
Not even a mustachio to be found, pointed gold or otherwise...
― Evan, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:16 (2 days ago) Permalink
he doesn't seem to precious about his 'vision', as long as the cheques keep rolling in.
"bland, romance novel guy" is totally otm. but i like dude's casual smugness for the role.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:21 (2 days ago) Permalink
"Ahhh, I know exactly the sort of guy that a stunningly beautiful and independent and strong-willed young queen with armies and kingdoms and dragons would be into"
Hah, from this I was expecting the description to be "portly bearded aging scribe"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:37 (2 days ago) Permalink
Also he cut his teeth in TV, he must be resigned to the fact that some stuff is going to have to be changed/watered down. He's probably delighted to see his world realised on screen with the level of accuracy it has been.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:46 (2 days ago) Permalink
I mean Tyrion's described as horribly ugly in the books, and he seems to be totally behind Dinklage's casting.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:47 (2 days ago) Permalink
also he had his nose cut off
― Moodles, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:04 (2 days ago) Permalink
I suspect the reason for that change is to avoid having to expensively cgi out Dinklage's nose in every scene.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:07 (2 days ago) Permalink
I think it also has to do with an attempt to give him a wound without seriously detracting from his overall attractiveness.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:09 (2 days ago) Permalink
it would be too gross, like reading abt it is one thing
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:35 (2 days ago) Permalink
i bet they told dink they had to surgically alter his nose and he squealed like a bitch about it. fucking actors.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:41 (2 days ago) Permalink
Yeah, it would've been too much to make him go the full Time Traveler's Wife
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:52 (2 days ago) Permalink
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:37 (2 days ago) Permalink
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