HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Just been picked up for a first season.

I don't know anything about this but the fantasy genre is expensive and so 2k3 really isn't it?

ANTI-SPOILER REQUEST: Oh, and should we throw down some ground rules if people are going to be discussing this week-by-week? i.e. if you've read the books don't discuss anything further than where we are, but discussion of any differences in the TV show and the books from what we've seen is fine. ― Gukbe, Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:51 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

It will for this nerd!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

fwiw every show HBO has is just for nerds but everyone else watches them anyway

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

this might be dope

carne asada, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

are the books good?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

also: Sean Bean as Eddard Stark

FUCK YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

'good if you're a fan of the fantasy genre and are cool with the Dragonlance series' or 'good' in the general sense.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

GOOD GOOD

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM ILX

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

did a search for 'Game of Thrones' to see if this show was already mentioned, and saw nothing about it or the books so...no?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

REALLY GOOD GOOD

this nerd is v v v v excited

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

whoops. just searched 'game of thrones'. i actually wikipediaed this ages ago when the pilot was first announced. it's coming back to me.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

This will be awesome. I gave up on the books after the first two, but would still like to see it on teevee.

crazy ass between (askance johnson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Third book is probably the best.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'd agree with that

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

ok so what's going to happen when this show becomes wildly successful and 4 years from now they run out of god damn source material

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

tbh if they've any sense they'll get to the end of book four about two and a half seasons in

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

also: 'they will come up with their own ending, more quickly and as validly as george r r martin manages to come up with his'

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

amazing that its been 4 or 5 years since i was really into these books and the next one's still not out...dude isn't gonna finish the series is he :(

it's definitely good tv series material though if they're willing to run it out long enough and don't try to cram each book into a single season (the 3rd book alone is like as long as the entire lord of the rings iirc)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

you think they ought to make it longer? u mad

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

not necessarily make it longer, just not do 1 book = 1 season when the books are of varying length and plot complexity (4th book could be cut down by a ton for example to make room for more stuff from the 3rd book)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

They could just do more episodes for the season w/ the 3rd book. I don't see how they could split it up though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Gobbled up all the books on the recommendation of ILXors. I'm looking forward to the HBO show, but mostly I just want the new book! And then I guess there are two MORE of these books that he has to write, in-between blogging about the Jets and going to fantasy conventions? Sigh...

schwantz, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

expected to air around this time next year, alongside the second season of Treme.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for the crossover episode.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 book = 1 season makes total sense

they can make that work

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Never read the books, but pretty keen on watching this.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

what is the point of this if the dude won't even finish the books???? Goddamn stop re-writing them already!!!

ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

name one HBO show besides Sopranos that didn't/doesn't do a new season every year

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

actually, I'll name another, Curb Your Enthusiasm, but i think that's it

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

The Wire had a significant gap between seasons 3 and 4, but that was partly because they weren't sure if they were going to renew it.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

at this point, I am wondering if it might not be better if some talented cable TV writers finished this thing for him. I am losing faith that he has any idea where he is going with these books.

richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

We should start bitching about the BSG/Lost style finalefail.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Turns out Tyrion is Jesus.

schwantz, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

big love took a break right?

ian, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

If it hasn't it needs to.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Carcetti is Littlefinger

That character means nothing to me obv.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

FUCK YEAH THAT IS BRILLIANT!!!!!

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, that is good casting

richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

ditto

Really looking forward to this!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

more teasing

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

I hope this starts a trend of classy TV fantasy adaptations. Someone should do Perdido Street Station (though would be fucking expensive). Do these books have monsters and magic and shit, or is it just guys fighting with swords?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 13 September 2010 15:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

They have dragons and undead.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

only in the first and last episodes of this season though, that saves you some money right there

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

perdido street station feels basically like a miniseries already! which is unfortunate in that the other bas-lag stuff wouldn't really work as further series of.

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't understand how literally anyone watching this would think Joffrey was killed by one of his own family. Regardless of how evil/insane he is, the fact remains that he's their evil/insane guy and everyone else has to suffer him. Killing him in a safe venue at the height of his power doesn't gain the Lannisters anything. It makes them look vulnerable.

gyac, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:43 (Yesterday) Permalink

Tommen stands to gain, he prob. did it.

reddening, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:47 (Yesterday) Permalink

well this blond kid claiming to be tommen is clearly not tommen from the last season, so if he has disposed of and replaced the original tommen, it is not hard to believe he would similarly remove his only obstacle to the throne

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:53 (Yesterday) Permalink

it's clearly the sigur ros guy

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:56 (Yesterday) Permalink

lol i am 100% pro changing everything so sigur ros become major characters

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:06 (Yesterday) Permalink

New Tommen fed original Tommen to his kittens.

gyac, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

entire season just jaime chasing after those sneaky icelandic villains

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

When someone shouted "stormbringer" to name the sword, surely that was a Moorcock/Elric reference? I can't recall the other suggested names.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

and we learn the national was killed off-screen

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:08 (Yesterday) Permalink

Tommen: Have the Rolling Stones killed.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:10 (Yesterday) Permalink

Matt Berninger's head on a pike next episode, iirc.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:10 (Yesterday) Permalink

When someone shouted "stormbringer" to name the sword, surely that was a Moorcock/Elric reference? I can't recall the other suggested names.

I (of course) lol'd at this too, seemed unusually meta. I did wonder if the other names were from other fantasy series.

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:17 (Yesterday) Permalink

Let's not forget Ned Stark. He had the most motive, and his alibi is a little too perfect.

jmm, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

the other suggestions were Terminus (from The Book of the New Sun), Wolfsbane (which I assume is just a Stark reference), and there's another one that shouted over which I can't quite hear

Number None, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

I think reading the books before watching the show is probably not the best way to appreciate the show.

calstars, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

Martin is some kind of master of pulling off contradictory feelings in his readers of "nothing is happening / everything is happening."

calstars, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:38 (Yesterday) Permalink

He settled on "Widow's Wail", didn't he? Something like that anyway.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:39 (Yesterday) Permalink

choked on pigeon's pie? murder most fowl ; )

am0n, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

When someone shouted "stormbringer" to name the sword, surely that was a Moorcock/Elric reference? I can't recall the other suggested names.
--Robert Adam Gilmour

GRRM wrote this ep so my money's on yes

resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

He settled on "Widow's Wail", didn't he?

And then the episode ended with one

polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:29 (Yesterday) Permalink

Terminus might be the coolest name for a sword I've ever heard. I assume those references weren't in the book. I'm generally not fond of fannish references but somehow I didn't mind it in the show.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:18 (Yesterday) Permalink

It's "Terminus Est" to be precise

Number None, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:23 (Yesterday) Permalink

they have latin in Westeros?

I hate this show sometimes

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:26 (Yesterday) Permalink

I mean, the season thing makes no sense fr instance

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:26 (Yesterday) Permalink

oh wait you were referring to Wolfe. dude's a whole different ballgame from Martin imho

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

yeah I guess in the Game of Thrones universe it's just some drunk guy screaming gobbledygook

Number None, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:29 (Yesterday) Permalink

entire season just jaime chasing after those sneaky icelandic villains

sigur ros are white walkers iirc

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:33 (Yesterday) Permalink

white wankers more like

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

my greatsword U DAED

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:45 (Yesterday) Permalink

I call mine STABBY

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:48 (Yesterday) Permalink

they have latin in Westeros?

They speak English, which is influenced by latin

polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:50 (Yesterday) Permalink

anyhow as someone who knows whodunit i thought they did a good job of being honest enough about who actually dunit while at the same time providing plenty of red herrings

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:51 (Yesterday) Permalink

I mean, the season thing makes no sense fr instance

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its magical fwiw

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:46 (12 hours ago) Permalink

Latin is also magical fwiw

, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:51 (12 hours ago) Permalink

otmious

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:53 (12 hours ago) Permalink

it's magical! "fwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiw"

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:57 (12 hours ago) Permalink

also these fuckn dragons amirite? i mean COME ON

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:11 (11 hours ago) Permalink

You can do some hand wavey stuff about dragons and magic and I wont mind too much. When u posit that a world with irregular seasons would still have regular plants and animals as we know them I think you're just being stupid. Maybe this is handled more explicitly in the books or something.

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:26 (11 hours ago) Permalink

Shakey Mo Collier Draws Line In Sand

, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:29 (11 hours ago) Permalink

i'll permit this much magic but not a drop more

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:47 (11 hours ago) Permalink

For all we know in the "real" version of the world that the show portrays everyone is a ten foot tall amoeboid creature that speaks in hormones, but it's all translated back into a understandable form to us.

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 02:33 (10 hours ago) Permalink

Sorry, shouldn't have spoiled the ending of book seven like that.

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 02:35 (10 hours ago) Permalink

unrelated, but I noticed with some amusment that margery's wedding dress was the least booby thing she's worn in the entire show

Yeah, I hated it.

He settled on "Widow's Wail", didn't he? Something like that anyway.

Guh, I interpreted that as "Widow's Whale," and I've bloody read the books.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 04:59 (8 hours ago) Permalink

Widow's whale tail

, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 05:08 (7 hours ago) Permalink

I think what is mostly bothering me about the irregular seasons is that everyone knows that winter is coming, and yet they are all using their resources on these bullshit wars. So the populace should have realized they will all probably starve to death, and should be in an uproar, but they're all so passive.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:17 (50 minutes ago) Permalink

I think only the old heads remember what the last winter is like

It's like as far away as WWII

, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:22 (45 minutes ago) Permalink

so totally unrealistic that the nation would waste its time + resources on bullshit wars instead of imminent climate disaster

Mordy , Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:25 (42 minutes ago) Permalink

Nothing like a good bullshit war to keep populations passive.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:25 (42 minutes ago) Permalink

Maybe the root material cause for the war was the failure of the houses to adequately prepare for averting starvation during the long winter, forcing them to shift at the last minute into pillage mode, also to try to grab what they could of Westeros's temperate regions.

jmm, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:41 (26 minutes ago) Permalink


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