HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Just been picked up for a first season.

I don't know anything about this but the fantasy genre is expensive and so 2k3 really isn't it?

ANTI-SPOILER REQUEST: Oh, and should we throw down some ground rules if people are going to be discussing this week-by-week? i.e. if you've read the books don't discuss anything further than where we are, but discussion of any differences in the TV show and the books from what we've seen is fine. ― Gukbe, Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:51 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

It will for this nerd!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

fwiw every show HBO has is just for nerds but everyone else watches them anyway

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

this might be dope

carne asada, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

are the books good?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

also: Sean Bean as Eddard Stark

FUCK YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

'good if you're a fan of the fantasy genre and are cool with the Dragonlance series' or 'good' in the general sense.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

GOOD GOOD

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM ILX

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

did a search for 'Game of Thrones' to see if this show was already mentioned, and saw nothing about it or the books so...no?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

REALLY GOOD GOOD

this nerd is v v v v excited

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

whoops. just searched 'game of thrones'. i actually wikipediaed this ages ago when the pilot was first announced. it's coming back to me.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

This will be awesome. I gave up on the books after the first two, but would still like to see it on teevee.

crazy ass between (askance johnson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Third book is probably the best.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'd agree with that

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

ok so what's going to happen when this show becomes wildly successful and 4 years from now they run out of god damn source material

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

tbh if they've any sense they'll get to the end of book four about two and a half seasons in

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

also: 'they will come up with their own ending, more quickly and as validly as george r r martin manages to come up with his'

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

amazing that its been 4 or 5 years since i was really into these books and the next one's still not out...dude isn't gonna finish the series is he :(

it's definitely good tv series material though if they're willing to run it out long enough and don't try to cram each book into a single season (the 3rd book alone is like as long as the entire lord of the rings iirc)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

you think they ought to make it longer? u mad

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

not necessarily make it longer, just not do 1 book = 1 season when the books are of varying length and plot complexity (4th book could be cut down by a ton for example to make room for more stuff from the 3rd book)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

They could just do more episodes for the season w/ the 3rd book. I don't see how they could split it up though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gobbled up all the books on the recommendation of ILXors. I'm looking forward to the HBO show, but mostly I just want the new book! And then I guess there are two MORE of these books that he has to write, in-between blogging about the Jets and going to fantasy conventions? Sigh...

schwantz, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

expected to air around this time next year, alongside the second season of Treme.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for the crossover episode.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 book = 1 season makes total sense

they can make that work

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Never read the books, but pretty keen on watching this.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

what is the point of this if the dude won't even finish the books???? Goddamn stop re-writing them already!!!

ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

name one HBO show besides Sopranos that didn't/doesn't do a new season every year

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually, I'll name another, Curb Your Enthusiasm, but i think that's it

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Wire had a significant gap between seasons 3 and 4, but that was partly because they weren't sure if they were going to renew it.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

at this point, I am wondering if it might not be better if some talented cable TV writers finished this thing for him. I am losing faith that he has any idea where he is going with these books.

richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

We should start bitching about the BSG/Lost style finalefail.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Turns out Tyrion is Jesus.

schwantz, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

big love took a break right?

ian, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

If it hasn't it needs to.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Carcetti is Littlefinger

That character means nothing to me obv.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

FUCK YEAH THAT IS BRILLIANT!!!!!

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, that is good casting

richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

ditto

Really looking forward to this!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

more teasing

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hope this starts a trend of classy TV fantasy adaptations. Someone should do Perdido Street Station (though would be fucking expensive). Do these books have monsters and magic and shit, or is it just guys fighting with swords?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 13 September 2010 15:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

They have dragons and undead.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

only in the first and last episodes of this season though, that saves you some money right there

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

perdido street station feels basically like a miniseries already! which is unfortunate in that the other bas-lag stuff wouldn't really work as further series of.

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

i didn't like how it ended

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:24 (3 months ago) Permalink

cersei especially, can't tell if that's the writing or performance but neither are good

i'm almost through season 4. I go back and forth on cersei; obviously the character intentionally enters every conversation with the goal of cutting the other person down to size and showing off her power by getting the brutal last word. And while that makes sense for the character, it gets so one-note at a certain point! And since that's basically all she does, the monologues about how much she loves her children seem kind of bogus, which I don't think they're supposed to.

intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:39 (3 months ago) Permalink

also i think the performance is intentionally a little hammy, like someone who is in over their head but trying to act like they think powerful people act. Just the way she holds her wine glass, for example. But like i said, it gets a little one-note at a certain point.

intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

yeah her character in particular seems like it was conceived ad hoc. of all the people to be really mad that her daughter was being married off! and the incest? it's treated like this 'ooh nasty' broken taboo w/o any hint at a deeper psyche.

goole, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:52 (3 months ago) Permalink

she's the ICE QUEEN who does DIRTY THINGS and is REALLY MEAN but *writes in column titled 'humanizing element'* REALLY LOVES HER KIDS

goole, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things (this is my favourite tv show but all these things get overrated by lots of people) then going to film, comedy, comics and videogames threads saying "Mmmmmmm I love these yummy smelly turds, feed me more turds!" Maybe I'm just as guilty of this but it makes me want to keep a journal on every member who seems to hold vastly different standards for different things (I'm less familiar with Goole's opinions so I have no comparisons right now).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:17 (3 months ago) Permalink

I have more sympathy for someone who tears apart a crappy film they sat through for some reason than people who watch 4 seasons of a tv show they hate every second of.

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

idk, if ever there was a show to watch despite yourself

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:28 (3 months ago) Permalink

goole otm

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:14 (3 months ago) Permalink

I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things

I wasn't as harsh as goole from the start, but as season 4 becomes an increasing slog for me, those points really do resonate. I think this show obviously has certain strengths (which is why it's so beloved!), but idk, goole's critiques aren't just "this show is boring" or "the characters are dumb" or something

For me, the show always had an strain of cheap cynicism masquerading as "realness," but it becomes overwhelming as the seasons continue, and as the villainous characters become more cardboard and stupid.

intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:41 (3 months ago) Permalink

I think I've mentioned this upthread but cersei's irrational(?) love of her children is essentially the paradigm of what the show (books?) thinks of as the potential for chaotic evil over and against the masculine meritocratic codes of honor typified by ned stark. maternal (and maybe Oedipal) love, is dangerous specifically because it is concerned for nothing but itself, and it is what sets the whole crazy ball of the narrative in motion. not sure that reading holds up but it's interesting to think about.

ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:00 (3 months ago) Permalink

not for nothing do father figures (or potential ones) kinda die off one by one...

ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:00 (3 months ago) Permalink

I assume that reading would draw a parallel between Cersei and mama Stark (whose name I can't remember)

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:02 (3 months ago) Permalink

yes and also dany's trying to square the whole "mother of dragons" righteous fury thing with the (coded masculine in this reading) realities of governance. dany trying to be father and mother.

ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:39 (3 months ago) Permalink

xp - though the show eliminated a plot involving Mrs. Stark's chaotic "evil" as a result of maternal love; i actually really wanted that to happen.

sarahell, Saturday, 7 November 2015 22:31 (3 months ago) Permalink

who knows what might happen next season?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 November 2015 23:06 (3 months ago) Permalink

funniest thing on the whole show so far was the kid night watcher killing the redhead barbarian woman and then giving jon snow a sweet li'l nod. thanks buddy, you did it.

goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:29 (3 months ago) Permalink

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:38 (3 months ago) Permalink

:D

goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:41 (3 months ago) Permalink

lol goole "this show is bad"... two weeks later season 4

lag∞n, Friday, 13 November 2015 15:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

i think i feel okay enough to admit i only watch the show now for the sweet action scenes

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

But they are so few and far between.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:16 (2 months ago) Permalink

i know... honest im just on my phone in betewen the fight scenes. i have no idea whats going on in the show anymore or how its different from the books

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:17 (2 months ago) Permalink

When the violent noises start you look up?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

yuyp

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

Were you watching the Spartacus tv series?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

Whats that

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:55 (2 months ago) Permalink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus_(TV_series)

It initially looked like a shoestring budget version of 300, I thought it looked terrible but a lot of people said it was great silly fun and surprisingly engaging (but people said that about 300: Rise Of An Empire and they were wrong).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

Spartacus >>>>>> GoT

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

Cool man i'll check it out

i don't like action scenes or fighting scenes when they get too corny or goofy i like it when they have just the right amount of gravitas which is why i still watch GoT

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

Look forward to lots of manly laughter

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

i like when ppl r slaughtered at weddings

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

from that pov this is the best show ever

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

goon you gotta see new jack city

balls, Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:05 (2 months ago) Permalink

Number None, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:56 (2 months ago) Permalink

Number None, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:56 (2 months ago) Permalink

you've got red on you, jon snow

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

jeez hbo spoiler tag plz

Merdeyeux, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

he's just resting

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

Not that it's surprising, but once you start bringing characters back to life, even in a world with thousands of snow zombies, then nothing really matters, does it? I only read the first couple of books, but it sounds like the show skipped/avoided the bizarro Lady Snowbrain or whatever plot, right? Just reading descriptions of that made no sense to me. So however he's brought back, assuming he is, and there is no reason not to assume he will be, then what the hell? Is he going to fight Zombie Mountain? Parley with the snow zombies? Bring all his ample dead family back, too?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

maybe he's just going to "chill"

Number None, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

zombie Jon Snow will be extremely sexual, calling it now

polyphonic, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

Well, yeah.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

sexy zombie jon snow is gonna be THE halloween costume for 2016

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:15 (2 months ago) Permalink

bloodied man buns and leather jerkins all along the bushwick horizon

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:16 (2 months ago) Permalink

oh yeah i forgot he was deaded

kinder, Monday, 23 November 2015 21:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

HBO: We Did It For the Watch

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 01:05 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

starting the second episode of this, seems like a naturalistic lord of the rings or something

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 27 December 2015 04:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

i feel like this would maybe be better with wizards in it

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 27 December 2015 05:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

this is like downton abbey meets breaking bad

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 27 December 2015 05:29 (1 month ago) Permalink


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