HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Just been picked up for a first season.

I don't know anything about this but the fantasy genre is expensive and so 2k3 really isn't it?

ANTI-SPOILER REQUEST: Oh, and should we throw down some ground rules if people are going to be discussing this week-by-week? i.e. if you've read the books don't discuss anything further than where we are, but discussion of any differences in the TV show and the books from what we've seen is fine. ― Gukbe, Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:51 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

It will for this nerd!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

fwiw every show HBO has is just for nerds but everyone else watches them anyway

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

this might be dope

carne asada, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

are the books good?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

also: Sean Bean as Eddard Stark

FUCK YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

'good if you're a fan of the fantasy genre and are cool with the Dragonlance series' or 'good' in the general sense.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

GOOD GOOD

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM ILX

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

did a search for 'Game of Thrones' to see if this show was already mentioned, and saw nothing about it or the books so...no?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

REALLY GOOD GOOD

this nerd is v v v v excited

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

whoops. just searched 'game of thrones'. i actually wikipediaed this ages ago when the pilot was first announced. it's coming back to me.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

This will be awesome. I gave up on the books after the first two, but would still like to see it on teevee.

crazy ass between (askance johnson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Third book is probably the best.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'd agree with that

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

ok so what's going to happen when this show becomes wildly successful and 4 years from now they run out of god damn source material

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

tbh if they've any sense they'll get to the end of book four about two and a half seasons in

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

also: 'they will come up with their own ending, more quickly and as validly as george r r martin manages to come up with his'

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

amazing that its been 4 or 5 years since i was really into these books and the next one's still not out...dude isn't gonna finish the series is he :(

it's definitely good tv series material though if they're willing to run it out long enough and don't try to cram each book into a single season (the 3rd book alone is like as long as the entire lord of the rings iirc)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

you think they ought to make it longer? u mad

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

not necessarily make it longer, just not do 1 book = 1 season when the books are of varying length and plot complexity (4th book could be cut down by a ton for example to make room for more stuff from the 3rd book)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

They could just do more episodes for the season w/ the 3rd book. I don't see how they could split it up though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gobbled up all the books on the recommendation of ILXors. I'm looking forward to the HBO show, but mostly I just want the new book! And then I guess there are two MORE of these books that he has to write, in-between blogging about the Jets and going to fantasy conventions? Sigh...

schwantz, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

expected to air around this time next year, alongside the second season of Treme.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for the crossover episode.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 book = 1 season makes total sense

they can make that work

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Never read the books, but pretty keen on watching this.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

what is the point of this if the dude won't even finish the books???? Goddamn stop re-writing them already!!!

ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

name one HBO show besides Sopranos that didn't/doesn't do a new season every year

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

actually, I'll name another, Curb Your Enthusiasm, but i think that's it

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Wire had a significant gap between seasons 3 and 4, but that was partly because they weren't sure if they were going to renew it.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

at this point, I am wondering if it might not be better if some talented cable TV writers finished this thing for him. I am losing faith that he has any idea where he is going with these books.

richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

We should start bitching about the BSG/Lost style finalefail.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

Turns out Tyrion is Jesus.

schwantz, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

big love took a break right?

ian, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

If it hasn't it needs to.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Carcetti is Littlefinger

That character means nothing to me obv.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

FUCK YEAH THAT IS BRILLIANT!!!!!

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, that is good casting

richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

ditto

Really looking forward to this!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

more teasing

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

I hope this starts a trend of classy TV fantasy adaptations. Someone should do Perdido Street Station (though would be fucking expensive). Do these books have monsters and magic and shit, or is it just guys fighting with swords?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 13 September 2010 15:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

They have dragons and undead.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

only in the first and last episodes of this season though, that saves you some money right there

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

perdido street station feels basically like a miniseries already! which is unfortunate in that the other bas-lag stuff wouldn't really work as further series of.

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

xps

Yeah I was thinking along the same lines as Evan especially given how she kept asking how his arm was. He wouldn't have believed her and taken the antidote if he wasn't already feeling the symptoms.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

(xps evan)

rogermex and lagoon otm

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:23 (Yesterday) Permalink

what is up with the new Thronecast (UK) inside-baseball discussion thing? It used to be okay and now it's massively embarrassing.

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:25 (Yesterday) Permalink

All I'm saying is that it would be plenty foolish of her to give power to the faith militant given her history alone, but to have her do that when she knows Lancel is a key guy there and they have a direct history of incest themselves is maybe just a tad too idiotic for her? Plus revealing Lancel is a sparrow in that scene would have been an exhilarating development and the entire "will this plan backfire for her?" question would have been more up in the air than completely obvious for viewers.

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:31 (Yesterday) Permalink

yes definitely it was obvious the plan wld backfire the whole time which was the point, it may have not come with as stunning of a reveal but it was a better story

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:33 (Yesterday) Permalink

it would be some tv 101 scandal shit imo to do it like that

the point is not that its obvious to us, because yeah it more or less is - the point is how not obvious it is to her. because she's built up so much arrogance out of anger and a legacy of familial strife, she can never imagine these things affecting her until they do even with the writing on the wall

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

as for completely obvious tho u cn read the thread and see if ppl thought so lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

Eh, if you say so. I had always felt her stupidity level was just above "drooling" myself.

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:35 (Yesterday) Permalink

They changed Cercei's plan from the books, and now it kinda doesn't make sense. Just like they changed Littlefinger's plans into something that doesn't make sense, and the Sand Snakes' plan into something that doesn't make sense, and...

Frederik B, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

They changed Cercei's plan from the books, and now it kinda doesn't make sense.

in what way, i remember it pretty much as that but with some additional characters involved (lol kettleblacks, no one missed you)

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:39 (Yesterday) Permalink

(if ppl want that on the spoiler thread and not here please ask/i will oblige)

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

i'm a bit confused as to how long these sparrows have been going for, and how big their number is? Like 5 episodes ago they were just this Jedi-style cult and now they're able to imprison half the royal family...?

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

i can't remember the lancel story very well, doing it with your cousin doesn't seem like such a big sin in game of thrones land, but what else can we be sure he knows?

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

i'm a bit confused as to how long these sparrows have been going for, and how big their number is? Like 5 episodes ago they were just this Jedi-style cult and now they're able to imprison half the royal family...?

― p:s nerds know (dog latin)

I guess being given a load of weapons and license to smash shit up is great for a recruitment drive.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

how come cercei only loves to bang in the family

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

"it would be some tv 101 scandal shit imo to do it like that"

Well to avoid that effect the audience could know he was sparrow before she did.

Long story short, I just felt like the risks were overly blatant, and the show had been doing a good job at keeping things up in the air otherwise (example: parallel scene where Theon/Reek has the candle and approaches the tower. Is he going to do it or not?).

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:44 (Yesterday) Permalink

xxxxxpost I figured Cercei just thought that J.Pryce wouldn't take her down because she was helping him and increasing his power--something that would be true of nearly every other person she's met in her life.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:47 (Yesterday) Permalink

well if it wasnt him itdve been the tyrells or littlefinger or etc etc

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:48 (Yesterday) Permalink

pryce imprisoning cercei seems pretty dumb too. aren't there still plenty of ppl w/ loyalty to the lannisters / on their payroll? i understand that leadership is depleted on top but tommen is still sitting on the iron throne. presumably even ppl who don't like the lannisters might be invested in the idea that a religious cult can't just go around arresting dowager queens.

Mordy, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:50 (Yesterday) Permalink

are we to assume lancel would have told high sparrow james lingk about cersei banging jaime?

that's bound to be worth a few more hail marys.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:50 (Yesterday) Permalink

it does seem weird that suddenly there's this institution with more power than the royal family, it just feels abrupt

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:51 (Yesterday) Permalink

makes me wonder what power is really based on in King's Landing

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

pryce imprisoning cercei seems pretty dumb too.

― Mordy, Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:50 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well he is a religious fanatic

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

he speaks so reasonably tho. he seems like a pragmatic fanatic.

Mordy, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

it does seem weird that suddenly there's this institution with more power than the royal family, it just feels abrupt

― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:51 AM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and prob extremely short lived no

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:53 (Yesterday) Permalink

aren't there still plenty of ppl w/ loyalty to the lannisters / on their payroll?

not really. theyve spent a fair amount of time building margaery and the tyrells up as having a folk hero/benevolent dictator status to the ppl of king's landing and much of westeros, whether that's entirely earned or unearned is another matter but ppl def love them and only ever feared the lannisters

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:53 (Yesterday) Permalink

fear is a powerful thing of course but as soon as ppl think they dont have to feel it they cease to, in a general sense.

also, ppl think that the tyrell army beat back stannis much more so than tywin's army (even tho it was really tyrion and company and then the tywin/tyrell joint effort)

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:55 (Yesterday) Permalink

It may have been more logical to have some guards escorting Cersei, only to be slaughtered by the faith militant in that scene when they take her to the dungeon.

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:56 (Yesterday) Permalink

cersei has jaime, qyburn, that thing qyburn is creating in his lab and lannister soldiers who are loyal to the house over all. (and roose bolton but its not gonna do her much good.) the tyrells have their own sizable army, enormous wealth that isn't running out and could have p much the entire country and kind of already do, and

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

i'm gonna start saying LOOK AT MY FACE at people on the subway

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

*and yea that family is basically cooked.

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

IT'S THE LAST THING YOU'LL SEE BEFORE YOU GET OFF AT BROADWAY LAFAYETTE

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

Also remember Cersei's rep is largely emasculating/possibly manslaughtering a popular king, and mothering a hated one.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

I think it's perfectly conceivable that they'd have plenty of potential allies in the city even if just Lannister soldiers and the goldcloaks but Cersei has been so fierce in shielding Tommen that virtually nobody with any sense or foresight has had access to him and the power he commands as king.

Cersei in her infinite wisdom then had to go and convinced him that any military action would end in the deaths of the ones imprisoned so I don't see that being pursued.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:08 (Yesterday) Permalink

it does seem weird that suddenly there's this institution with more power than the royal family, it just feels abrupt

― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:51 AM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and prob extremely short lived no

― lag∞n

yeah, the way it's come out of nowhere suggests it's just a fun little sidequest while martin types out the future. i'm sure you can point to several foreshadowing events over the first 4 seasons but basically it just seems like it's come out of nowhere in season 5

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:21 (Yesterday) Permalink

yeah but lancel looks so different now, 90% of watchers would be all WTF?

is it the same actor, even?

― p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, May 28, 2015 4:00 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same guy

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 28 May 2015 18:13 (Yesterday) Permalink

remembered almost none of this http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Lancel

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 18:19 (Yesterday) Permalink

haha yeah me neither. Feel like this show has a habit of suddenly rendering minor, unmemorable characters somehow significant to the larger story(ies)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 18:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

it's nothing compared to the books, but the books have lists and charts and maps

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 28 May 2015 18:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

from season 2:

Tyrion has had Grand Maester Pycelle arrested for breaking his confidence and feeding information to Queen Regent Cersei Lannister.[9] Cersei sends Lancel to Tyrion with a warrant for the release of Pycelle. He arrives late at night and Tyrion invites him for a drink and Lancel refuses. Tyrion wonders why Cersei did not come herself. Lancel says that he does not care and Tyrion continues to question him. Tyrion establishes that the order came directly from Cersei and then asks why Lancel waited to deliver it. Lancel says that he came immediately and Tyrion wonders what he was doing conferring with Cersei so late at night. Lancel improvises and says that Cersei often works through the night, and Tyrion retorts that she must be glad to have Lancel helping her at all hours. Tyrion notes the scent of lavender oil on his cousin and says that it is a favorite of Cersei. Lancel asserts his position as a knight, and Tyrion jokes that he is an anointed knight. Tyrion asks if Cersei had Lancel knighted before or after she took him into her bed. Lancel furiously calls that a lie, but when Tyrion threatens to tell Joffrey, he collapses into a chair, aghast. Lancel claims that it wasn't his fault, and Tyrion asks if she took him against his will. Lancel insists he was following Tywin’s orders to obey Cersei in all things, but Tyrion counters by asking him if Tywin ordered him to sleep with her as well. Tyrion points out the benefits Lancel has received and threatens to go straight to Joffrey at which Lancel falls to his knees and begs him for mercy and offers to leave the city. Tyrion says that Lancel must act as his spy to buy his silence. Tyrion asks Lancel to beg Cersei’s forgiveness and agrees to release Pycelle but refuses to reinstate him to the council.

tyrion is the best

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 May 2015 18:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

jeez, i forgot that cersei punched lancel's arrow wound during the battle of the blackwater! that probably made him really mad at her

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 May 2015 19:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

I easily remembered all the Lancel scenes because he was previously just there to be humiliated by the other characters.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 28 May 2015 19:05 (Yesterday) Permalink

yeah, having spent several seasons as a hapless pawn, it makes total sense dude got religion

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 28 May 2015 19:06 (Yesterday) Permalink

His best scene is Tyrion telling Lancel to ask Bronn to kill him if certain circumstances occur and Bronn replying "it would be my pleasure".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 28 May 2015 19:14 (Yesterday) Permalink

I just listened to Grantland's GoT podcast and their "expert" guy claimed that Littlefinger was definitely talking about Lancel in that "handsome young man" line. If that's the case then that is some championship level shitty writing.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2015 20:46 (Yesterday) Permalink

Long shot but it could be Gendry

tsrobodo, Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:32 (Yesterday) Permalink

nah, it's probably the witness against Loras.

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

Otm

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:55 (Yesterday) Permalink

Littlefinger had a chat with Lancel after he joined so I assumed it was him, though I don't think he was the one who pushed him to talk about the incest to Pryce.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 29 May 2015 05:02 (5 hours ago) Permalink


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