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Sorry Alex, but I was actually put off by the ridiculous lavish over- the-top designs in recent Select :).

Nevertheless actual pop stars' contributions do remind you how stupid most people become after a year or two in the industry, and of how fortunate we are to be outside it. They're good for that much, at least :).

Quantick lost his God status forever with his unbelievably cliched euology to "Revolver" in Q's wretched English issue. I do often wonder exactly what he did in the various Chris Morris programmes, though ...

-- "There was anarchy in the streets of Budleigh Salterton that night."

Confluence, Friday, 8 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one year passes...
OK, talk about reviving dead threads... Just have to mention my fondest memory of Select: The "50 Coolest People in Pop" list, with (of all people) Florian Schneider at number 2!

OleM, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Home counties bedroom walls plastered with pictures of Elastica

What does 'home counties' mean in this phrase?

youn, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think it'd be the south-east of England counties surrounding London: Kent, Surrey, Berkshire, Buckinghamshire etc.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thanks, Robin! (That was for deciphering a Lloyd Cole lyric: "What in the world would a home county girl want with you?")

youn, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Aw, don't mention it. I've had a soft spot for you ever since you confessed that you knew less about Sandy Denny's work than Anthony Sanderson did ...

That Cole line you quote sounds like a Pinefox idea, it really does. Not surprising considering who wrote it :).

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
Dug out some old Selects from the mid 90s the other day. The Andrew Harrison era was the best (? up to mid-95). He and Adam Higginbotham then went on to start Neon, which was the best mainstream/cult populist movie magazine evah!

The first issue I bought was from Nov 94. The cover is missing but it's quite possibly the finest single issue of a music magazine evah! (I'm gonna get the most evah!s into a post evah!)
REM main feature (not as worthy as you'd think - Neil Cooper gets them to drop their pants), Portishead on soundtracks, Kylie, Flavor Flav and his troubles, Sven Vath, Laibach! Then at the back there's a home beautiful piece with Poison Ivy and Lux Interior showing off their amazing house. It's possibly the greatest double spread in British pop mag history, evah!

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I am astounded that "afraid to POP" has never become an ILx meme.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I was trying to make "Drumroll, Keith!" one, but it's time may yet come...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

So it wasn't my imagination influenced by being young and impressionable - Select WAS really really good.

I think the first issue I ever bought had an article called "The Compleat Blur" which was a two part series chronicling every single Blur track ever released up until after Parklife - absolute brilliant writing all the way through. There was a very well informed dance/clubbing section too, something a lot of indie zines will shun these days; music reviews were diverse and interesting.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I wish I kept that Blur thing, just to put in my CD Singles Box Set (got at a knockdown price, back in the day)

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got the first part of that Blur thing. It's got the infamous Skunk Anansie pic where Skin has "clit rock" written on her forehead, famously parodied in Father Ted. It's also got a pin up of Marina from Salad in a PVD catsuit. Oh my.


On the subject of FT, the 94 issue has a column by Graham Linehan! On Beards! It just gets better and better.

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

select was amazing. as an american, it was my preferred music rag.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Salad!

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember that Select issue that came in a cornflake packet with a free edition of Raw and loads of other goodies? I think I felt like Christmas had come early that month.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"Like a granite statue..."

They weren't great, but they were better than Sleeper. And she was hott.

http://www.re-played.com/images/tn_Salad_-_Granite_statue.jpg

The cornflake packet issue was pop art genius. Keith Drummond was the art director then. We salute you sir!

Btw Mark, if you want the first part of the Blur thing I can scan it and gmail it to you. Just send me a good mp3 in return. :)

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, and loads of the mags did that after.

Oh, offtopic, remember when Loaded did about 50 alternate covers, one month? Yeah, it was the 'jump the shark' moment, but boy did they jump that dang shark there!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, Stew? A good mp3? Hmm, what about the "Wassailing" song as per Blur?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd love a copy of the Compleat Blur too please!

I loved Salad's version of Dream A Little Dream Of Me on the Warchild Help compilation. Salad. I mean, really - who calls their band Salad?

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it true that "jump the shark" has something to do with Happy Days?

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think there was an episode where the Fonz is water-skiing and, er, jumps the shark.

Cool, I'll scan it all later on.

Not a huge Blur fan really. Any other goodies?

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=jump%20the%20shark

wow, this is true!

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

'Course its true. Would we l.t.y?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Stew, clue me...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, you got any freaky stuff? I'll check out anything that fits that description.

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, marinna from salad. hottness.

N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, freaky stuff...

like?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Weird soundtrack stuff maybe? Joe Meek? Krautrock?

Stewart Smith (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, now you have given me an in..

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry to be so vague, it's just that I like surprises.

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i guess i liked it too, for the time. especially the part where they'd get bands drunk on absinthe.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

one surprise coming up...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Have a complete collection of it somewhere in my parent's basement. I loved this magazine so much and seeing a new one in the bookstore was always cause for jumping around.

fact: their first ever mention of B&S was making fun of the cover of Tigermilk (when it first came out I suppose).

Viz (Viz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Thankyou sir, that was pretty groovy. Scanning underway. I'll try to yousendit so everyone can enjoy.
Must do that Cramps feature at some point too.

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Sod it, emailing them as attachments is much easier...

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, yousendit is so easy, but whatever..

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sure it is, but it's just that I've got about 11 jpgs here, so it's easier to send 11 attachments on one email.

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

The campaign to get Julian Cope a peerage!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I had the stone roses box of Select and I remember the one that came with RAW (when raw changed from a metal mag to a britpop mag and promptly disappeared after about 3 issue(Yes I used to buy RAW) I think Phil Alexander was the editor until he jumped to Kerrang. I forget who was editor when it became a britpop/indie mag.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I forget who was editor when it became a britpop/indie mag.

serious political analyst john harris of course.

Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Thursday, 21 July 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
STEWART SMITH CANU POST THIS AGAIN?????!!!


please
please
please!!!!

piscesboy, Friday, 18 November 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

what did he post? scans? i remember the article, early summer 1995.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 18 November 2005 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
The campaign to get Julian Cope a peerage!!!!!!

!@!!

UART variations (ex machina), Sunday, 21 January 2007 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember the Blur 2 issue extravaganza!

White Dopes on Punk (Bimble...), Sunday, 21 January 2007 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I am astounded that "afraid to POP" has never become an ILx meme.

-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), July 21st, 2005.

There's still time

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 21 January 2007 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

David Cavanaugh, arguably Select's best writer,contributes to Uncut these days.

Jonesy (Jaap Schip), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

the blur issues were the first music mags i ever bought and partly responsible for my music geekery today.

select was a fine mag.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

anybody remember Lime Lizard?

hank (hank s), Sunday, 21 January 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

They were very "default"

Mark G, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll step in and defend Bluetones. Their first album was full of great songwriting but they always got lumped in with the other Britpop also rans.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

This is what Select did to the fortnightly rock/metal mag RAW

http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/images/Raw1995_1.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511xWeDfyJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
FROM THE MAKERS OF SELECT it proclaims on the cover. Raw was a great mag before this.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

You can buy that Jarvis one if you want to
http://www.amazon.com/Select-Jarvis-Cocker-Bluetones-Oasis/dp/B0034ZKZHQ/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1299252839&sr=8-29

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

hehe, i knew a metal kid in my class who was incensed at the raw indie re-format. it was weird, why not just start an unrelated magazine and fold the old one? how many pantera fans were gonna start digging on menswe@r?

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

It seems particularly silly as it was basically Select magazine anyway but fortnightly.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

RAW was better than Kerrang tbh , it was a bit more open-minded. But turning into select fortnightly was toooooo much.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Imagine MUZIK had decided to continue but as NME Lite, that is how daft the raw relaunch was. Not only were metal fans gonna buy it but the select readers didn't either. Publishers do not help themselves sometimes.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Did nobody think of those with subscriptions?

Mark G, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

seeing that "yanks go home" issue is a pleasant suprise actually... i like all the bands and it doesn't really have anything to do with the post-oasis wannabe-yob culture that had set into mersh indie by '96, quite the opposite in fact. seems more like a celebration of the things that do actually make british pop music unique like eccentricity and being the nerdy underdog. luke haines, lawrence, jarvis and st ettienne peeps all bros. suede were ok i guess.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

hah, oh god, I dunno how those people must have reacted.

xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

poor bastards

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

that font for the "raw" logo was everywhere in the mid 90s, kinda like if you'd made the letters out of ice and then let them melt.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

corny drop-shadow a nice touch, too

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that period stone roses could have been covered by RAW anyway. Sebadoh and dinosaur jr and sonic youth,afghan whigs and other more indie acts etc all did. Metal Hammer covered Oasis (or at least they got in their albums of year list) and i knew a lot of metal fans who dug the 1st oasis album. so why they just changed completely is beyond me.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL look at the difference between the other years & 1995
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/raw.htm

btw the late 80s/early 90s ones aren't there and would have provided even more of a contrast

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I appreciate you tirelessly defending the honour of a magazine so on it they gave album of the year to The Wildhearts but I think that, 16 years on, you should maybe let it go.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

the wildhearts had some hooks! catchy as fuck.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

what was the "photoshop pull out" in raw?

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

give $10 to jjjusten and he can go to this shop to find out http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0034ZKZHQ/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1299252839&sr=8-29&condition=used

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

You can buy issue 1 of Vox magazine from 1990
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOX-MAGAZINE-HAPPY-MONDAYS-Issue-1-Oct-1990-/320604238867?pt=UK_Magazines&hash=item4aa5807413

issue 2 is there as well

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Comes with the Original Box - the Box is in fairly good condition and will be flattened out for posting. Alas, the stuff in the box was eaten 16 years ago.

blud money (sic), Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the only things I remember about Select is they once gave away a Michael Eavis mask and it scared the shit out of my sister when I jumped out at her with it on.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

ha ha ha

you should have tried wearing it upside down

blud money (sic), Saturday, 5 March 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

too good and funny to die this thread.

piscesx, Monday, 14 March 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

unlike the magazine!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 14 March 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Well this is fun: http://selectmagazinescans.monkeon.co.uk/

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 1 November 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link

Really want to know how many copies that Gay Dad issue sold.

Matt DC, Friday, 1 November 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

Well it was at least one. Possibly not much more though.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link

Plonked into one at random, ended up with a "Stars in their eyes" special (People doing Jarvis, NHannon, NPersson, GStefani, etc)

Mark G, Friday, 1 November 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link

Aw, I was hoping for full scans. Though yeah, I wouldn't want to scan 100 issues either. Hats off to that guy for what he has scanned.

Surprised by how few I had as I spent a large chunk of my teens reading them, but I'd buy one issue and re-read it obsessively for months, I guess, plus they were competing with Vox, NME, MM and later the dance mags for my attention.

Clicked on July 1994 cz I had that one, clicked on the page with a blurb on Pressure of Speech bcz long-forgotten name, whatever happened etc, read

"I really fucking hate D:Ream - I think 'Things Can Only Get Better' will be the next Tory Conference rally song."

I wonder...

I think the first one I got was the one with Morrissey on the cover from July 1991.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 1 November 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

http://i.imgur.com/UAu1XQP.jpg

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 27 November 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link


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