Still need a lot more time to get to know these songs, but so far I'm thinking: Disc 1 >>> Disc 3 > Disc 2
The tracks on disc 1 have stuck with me the best. I particularly am liking the groovy 70s vibe on Easy and Good Intentions - I could handle a whole album of these types of songs. Disc 2 I've had the most trouble getting a grasp on.
― Moodles, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Love to see her try her hand at a 'New Morning' or 'Planet Waves'-style shorter songs album, and use her obvious lyrical skills in a more pithy way, with a sound akin to "Good Intentions Paving Company". I don't have a huge problem with her longer songs, though a couple here don't hold up and a couple more don't take off beyond "good". So it's not so much that the needs an editor, per se, it's just that there's strong evidence she could do well to marry the musical/arrangement ambitions of this 3LP to a 10-track, 38-minute album.
― Soundslike, Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
By the way, I very much want Joanna, not Gavin, to be Jerry Brown's lieutenant governor.
― that guy who doesn't get it but doesn't know he doesn't get it (M.V.), Friday, 26 February 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh that popmatters review is kinda otm.
― Turangalila, Friday, 26 February 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
666 (throws devil sign, splits)
― Paul, Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Updated: http://huggingthenewjoannanewsomalbum.tumblr.com/
Good job, Ursell!
― ksh, Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently if you are a guy with glasses you'll probably like this album. If you look like Colin Meloy you'll simply do anything Pitchfork says. (Just my theory about how the world works)
― Evan, Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:38 (fourteen years ago) link
The governement needs to invent a bomb that destroys everyone aged 25 to 35. We're fucking up so bad.
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
That bums me out because I've thrice been told I look like Colin Meloy and I don't want to be a slave to Pitchfork. Fuck.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/2/4/9/7/20307942-20307948-slarge.jpg
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
anyone but us is truly the greatest generation
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I was not fucking happy to hear the comparison and, thankfully, my wife doesn't see it.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:46 (fourteen years ago) link
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― Evan, Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Trying really hard not to take Whiney's bait... but really? This coming from a dude who, whatever the motivations, contributed to this tumblr bullshit.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link
twumblr
― idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:55 (fourteen years ago) link
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^^^tweenster crying and hugging new joanna newsom album, best in class since crying_hipster_anco.gif
― idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link
So slimy....
― Evan, Sunday, 28 February 2010 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Trying really hard not to take Whiney's bait... but really? This coming from a dude who, whatever the motivations, contributed to this tumblr bullshit.― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:49 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:49 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i'm not makin fun of the tumblr existing, save maybe the fact that it rips off my 77 anco thread
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah you invented hipster baiting
― Number None, Sunday, 28 February 2010 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link
just saw the premiere of The Family Jams last night. Highly recommended, especially for fans of Joanna and Devendra and Vetiver, and even for those who at least have a high tolerance for their musics.
http://www.thefamilyjams.com/
― dan selzer, Sunday, 28 February 2010 08:03 (fourteen years ago) link
The governement needs to invent a bomb that destroys everyone aged 25 to 35. We're fucking up so bad.― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:41 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:41 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/classic.png
― caek, Sunday, 28 February 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:41 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
truth bomb, to be straight up
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link
*checks birth date*
whew
― Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Sunday, 28 February 2010 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link
After listening to this I need to put on a Prurient or an Abruptum record.
― booty claps and harp solos (leavethecapital), Sunday, 28 February 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago) link
haha, i was listening to it was my gf and told her i had to clear my palatte, so i started blasting "Bitch Betta Have My Money"
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb4Ev1rxUQ0
lol this guy spent hours making this YouTube video and didn't even know who wrote the song lol
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
This looks like a blog a lot of you would enjoy: http://indierawk.tumblr.com
― ksh, Sunday, 28 February 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
still the greatest triple-album i've never heard.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 28 February 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Still the grating-ist triple-album I've never heard.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 28 February 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
And this didn't take long to turn into a full-on Joanna hatefest. ILM is so finicky.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
as soon as its something a Questionable Content fan would like, we turn instantly
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I was just surprised how quickly this went from a lovefest to rabid hatred.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
xpostgod help us if faye starts rocking a the-dream shirt
Should I be happy that I don't know who Faye is? (Although I'm guessing it's someone on Questionable Content, which I think I've read three times.)
― ksh, Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
And this didn't take long to turn into a full-on Joanna hatefest. ILM is so finicky.― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0)
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0)
It's been a "hatefest" since I started the thread. There's a small group of us who like her music here, but beyond that, it's all unicorns and Ren faire zings.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2q06etf.jpg
― ksh, Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know, a lot of the Ren Faire zings came from people who were at least semi into her, or into her older stuff (J0hn D.).
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I think J0hn might've been the only one who was "semi into her," but even he hasn't liked her since Milk-Eyed Mender.
― ksh, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Whatever. My point being tons of ilxors loved Ys, but now it she seems to be a lot more universally hated around here.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i was a huge Joanna stan circa Milk-Eyed Mender (it was even on my Pazz And Jop ballot). But she completely fell-off with me with Ys and this record. I think Joanna is someone that really could really do a lot of weird magic with the traditional V-C-V song structure, and feel that her "compositional" affectations on the last two records are really playing out of her league as a songwriter.
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Milk-Eyed Mender had some dope rhymes on it too, which is also long gone. I always figured her as a big rap fan when that album came out. Spoke right to me.
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
It's another case of someone who has built a history and a fanbase on really good V-C-V songs positioning themselves as "important avant-garde genius" and rock critics/impressionable corny indiefuxxors who have no concept of real avant-garde music buying it hook/line/sinker (see also Kid A, the last two Mars Volta albums)
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp basically this
― caek, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
whiney
― max, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i was with you on your first two posts but you dont do yourself any favors by suddenly claiming this is some kind of false consciousness thing
Some also really like the music because they like it.
― ksh, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Well treat them, as two separate thoughts, i'm rambling here
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean like i said above i think the lyrics on the most recent one arent nearly as good as MEM or Ys lyrics. & i disagree but i can see the argument that her strengths lie in traditional forms and not in long 'compositional' arrangement (tho fwiw theres a lot of V-C-V on the most recent one, the songs are just so long maybe you dont notice?). but accusing "impressionable corny indiefuxxors" of having the wool pulled over the yes b.c they... dont know as much about "real avant-garde music" as you is... well, dude, its not an argument
― max, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Seriously this why I get so frustrated with you Whiney. I mean you start out with some really valid points and then completely undermine yourself with some questionable bullshit.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp basically this― caek, Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:17 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:17 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha, this was originally me saying which two sentences out of ten i thought were truth bombs and which were nonsense, but i decided to keep it pos.
― caek, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ok, i'll take back last thought since it's derailing the argument
― zvocksucker (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link