In Damnation of...Horses by Patti Smith

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wait, the sisters did i wanna be your dog too? i don't think i've ever heard it. cuz my favorite goth version of i wanna be your dog would be the world of skin version(and their cover of nick drake's blacked eyed dog is a favorite of mine as well)

The debut I find a bit tough to get into initially. When I first bought it, I thought of returning it, but it grew on me like killah fungus. So that I can understand. Its appeal is not immediate as the following two efforts would be. But prissy, contained, and reserved...MUTHAFOCK@#$%^&*(...Hell, I AM a Tribe head. They're my favorite rap group ever, and I'm pretty obnoxious and annoying. (But only on the Internet, baby!)

(or nude pictures of Animotion)

I found myself transixed and playing songs over and over again and forcing others to listen to stuff

Alex in NYC, I love you but I fart in your general direction

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), December 3rd, 2003.

I do crack myself up. Someone's got to.

The very first sentence in this thread says it all really...

It's still vile.

Still great.

I don't have strong feelings about her, but she makes a lot more sense if you consider her ties to Springsteen & Blue Oyster Cult, rather than Richard Hell or Television. And relating her to Ramones or Dead Boys doesn't make any sense at all, in retrospect.

She reminds me most of Mark E. Smith. Not in her content, but more in the meth-fueled stream of consciousness, just run through a different brain.

Listened to it once.

Really liked it.

Never listened to it again.

How queer!

just got offed just saw patti smith live at the cambridge junction

the music was good, lively, toe-tapping rock stuff, the performance was superb, and patti herself absolutely riveting, her between-song patter sweet, self-parodic, earnest and very funny all at once. and that's BEFORE i get onto her ad-libs during songs. most of which were about her excitement at being in cambridge, a place of 'peace and knowledge' (yeah, right!). and meeting a cow. or something. very bizarre (if amusing) soliloquy during extended Hendrix cover. oh, and she also made a lot of meeting some 'brothers' (turned out to be 'fellows') earlier on in the day. and told a lovely anecdote about shoes. what's not to love?

it did help that her backing band were superb.

I like Gloria and Land of a Thousand Dances. Everything else about the album disappointed me after hearing 20 years or so of hype.

I got the double CD version at fopp a while ago for £5 (must have been a mistake of pricing), and I can say that previously I was of an Alex in NYC mind (well, I wouldn't say vile, but I could say I couldn't see it)....

However, the second CD has the "Don't look back" gig recreation of the full album, and here it sounds great/alive/relevant.

So, um, try that one.

Oh, I have it here.

revive for AlexNYC

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8L6F-yhRW4

Her poetry in that one is terrible. I can't stand her beyond horses. But I'll always stand by horses.

I like the song Horses, but the album as a whole is a bit meh.

No! "Birdland" and "Kimberley" and "Gloria" redeem it for sure, I also like the rest of it but I am a rabid fan.

ps) Horses is also way better than any album that Sleater Kinney, Bjork, Tori Amos, Sinead Oconnor, or PJ Harvey ever did. So there.
So does that make Horses the best album recorded by someone with a vagina (or is there another connection between these artists that I am missing)?

best ilm zing ever

"gloria" and "horses" are both fantastic, but i wish the rest of the album sounded more like them. that one cod-reggae or something song is nearly unlistenable.

Mostly hostile Penman review (Horses is the one he likes):

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n09/ian-penman/ways-to-be-pretentious

Ah, he's no AlexInNYC

alex was a trailblazer when it comes to patti hate.

I now realize I forgot to post the update I penned last summer.

BRACE YOURSELVES!

Well, you didn't exactly change your mind about the music, did you?

As I say, seek out the live version of the album, CD2 in the deluxe reissue, that for me turned me around.

And yes, "Just kids" is great.

Nah, the music still sucks a tremendous platter of balls.