worst Nicki Minaj song on the radio right now

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(Nicki Minaj)
okay i get it
let me think
i guess its my turn
maybe its time to put this pussy on your sideburns

Yo cassidy is so hot. He blowin up really big. His freestyles are si (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

but slate thinks she's currently the most interesting thing in rap music! http://www.slate.com/id/2245421/

Luz, a saucy taco slinger (hmmmm), Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh duh, was thinking of "Can I Get A" obv

im barry white btw (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

but slate thinks she's currently the most interesting thing in rap music! http://www.slate.com/id/2245421/

― Luz, a saucy taco slinger (hmmmm), Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:11 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

a lot of ny rap/pop writers are stanning for this woman like she's something significantly more than a court jester, or that she posses any talent beyond parlaying ho-rap photoshoots into a fake lady gaga schtik that is noteworthy because rap and pop music is totally devoid of personality, even annoying manufactured ones like this. she can spit a hot verse or two but most of the time she just sounds like a 6 year old who hasn't been diagnosed with ADD. she's an alright radio presence cuz it's genuinely funny to listen to her rap now, and there is a slight chance that she'll say something dope, but acting like there's anything beyond that is really fishing for angles where there aren't any. mainstream rap writers missed out on gucci mane & propping nicki up ain't gonna cut it.

her turn from good but spotty female rapper to robin williams on coke jabbermouth mirrors lil wayne's sudden style switch up/drop in quality minus give or take four classic albums/mixtapes

Yo cassidy is so hot. He blowin up really big. His freestyles are si (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

articles like that that are that breathlessly enthusiastic about random throwaway references and punchlines crack me up, I imagine the writer sitting down with a quill pen, and pausing the CD after every 4 bars to go "how delightful! how perfectly droll!!" and transcribe another line.

some dude, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

ha

I'm so 3000-and-8080 (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

i like that slate piece! def nails down at least part of what's special about nicki. idk sometimes when she gets too cartoonish i wish she'd play it straight more often, b/c she's really good at that, but then the weird voices and gaga schtick often lead to greatness like "saxon" or "fuck u silly" - for a persona that could be super-grating she still has a really impressive hit-rate. of the joints polled here i only actively dislike "bedrock", don't care about "5 star bitch", her bits are the best bits of "lil freak" and the others are all really good.

i mean i guess it's easy to mock b/c her worst moments are pretty awful but things like "hedgehog, sonic the" or "bedrock" aren't really representative of what minaj does.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

the new school of super female-friendly poptimism has been overly kind to her the same way it was to Lil Mama a couple years ago, imo. and that should mean something coming from someone known for overrating Ebony Eyez! people complain about the climate for female rappers but in general the people that have gotten a shot over the past 10 years (Trina, Remy Ma, Ms. Jade, Shawnna) have been pretty solid rappers, you have to go back to like Amil to find anyone indisputably less talented than Nicki/Mama.

some dude, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

did anyone really overrate lil mama? "lip gloss" and "shawty get loose" were awesome pop songs, no one really cared about the album or indeed where her career is now.

as for nicki, i think it's pretty undeniable that she's got skills - her "normal" flow is super-tight and half her voices work really well, and she has quotable lines for days - but right now i think she's actively trying to become even more distinct in carving out this persona for which there's no real model - it'd be one thing if she was embarrassing herself more often than not, but the good shit still outweighs the missteps.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

and ms jade, seriously? i liked a couple of her tracks and she could obviously rap but there was pretty much nothing distinctive about her.

it's pretty obvious that nicki thinks imprinting a larger-than-life persona on listeners will be crucial for her to establish a toehold in the mainstream, and she's probably right; and taking on elements of gaga rather than reprising the cheerful/terrifying smuttiness of lil kim or trina is probably a savvy decision too (plus more true to herself, her lyrics have never been as indebted to ho-rap as her image). like gaga this means moments of cringing at times - it's fucking terrible that "bedrock" will be most people's introductions to her - but hopefully what's appealing about her will win out in the end.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Watch out, the female-friend Poptimist mafia is coming!

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Maybe we should wait until, y'know, an actual album comes out before attempting to call any kind of critical consensus here?

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

apparently her first official single drops next week?

I'm so 3000-and-8080 (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've already decided to like it, given that she's a girl and everything.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dunno, the media hype for Lil Mama felt pretty over the top at the time (when she first hit, before album delays and a terrible follow up single killed her momentum), especially in circles that weren't really giving a shit about teenage dance rap otherwise, even in the year of "Crank That."

some dude, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

Matt, she has a popular mixtape and half a dozen songs in rotation on the radio, holding your breath until there's an official album to have certain discussions about new rappers is pretty pointless these days

some dude, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah srsly come on matt, don't front on the kernel of truth.

anyway i am voting for the mariah remix, cos 1. even though i can't recall/haven't heard minaj's other verses listed here i cannot comprehend any of them being stupider and more irritating than this one, and 2. the remix itself with its video also represents everything that's wrong with mariah these days - ruining a good song with this inept, inane pursuit of attention and leaning so hard on this cutesy in-joke babygirl shit all the fucking time for no discernable reason.

r|t|c, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah her verse on the Mariah song is especially gruesome, i think in part because she's in a lower register than usual and almost sounds like some kind of parody of 90s Lil Kim

some dude, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

actually now i look at it i could say similar for the usher, thicke, luda - minaj in her own lane i can handle and even kinda enjoy in some ways, but her inadvertant distortion of the people hiring her swag is what really grates.

r|t|c, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol that ladypoptimist talk reminded me - forks is it time to compare notes yet?

Teyana Taylor's 'Google Me'

r|t|c, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah --- i thought about not including "I Get Crazy" here both because it peaked a while ago and because it's a lot less annoying to me than the others in part because it's more her doing her than established stars just jumping on the next big post-Drake bandwagon

some dude, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

weirdly the video actually made me come round slightly to the mariah verse - i think the problem there is more that any guest verse would rupture "up out my face" unnecessarily

i wonder if she consciously goes into OTT mode for bigger artists who are going to get a lot more attention, b/c her guest spots on lloyd's "take it off", cassie's "fuck u silly", mya's "ponytail" and obv the unofficial "sweet dreams" one are all completely amazing and don't have the slight grating quality that rtc pinpoints for her mariah/usher ones.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

not too sure about that - i couldve imagined being mildly entertained by maybe a lowkey fabolous verse on 'up out my face' for instance but no way would it have been a panicking misguided conceptual reboot the way the minaj version is.

r|t|c, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

"google me" was a jam imo

I'm so 3000-and-8080 (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

haven't really felt any of these computernerd-themed joints since masta ace 'sittin on chrome' came out tbh.

r|t|c, Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

there are things i like about "lil freak" but i'm leaning towards voting for it for the way she says "everybody loves rrrrrraaaayyyymond"

just realized that the closest antecedent to nicki's style is the blizzard man: http://www.hulu.com/watch/18879/saturday-night-live-blizzard-man

― OMG Thanx Jeezy (some dude), Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:46 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha today Big Tigger was talking about the Usher song and thought she was saying "everybody loves reindeer"

some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

i can't tell if that's less funny because she names the all reindeer or more funny -- i'm inclined to say the latter

waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah totally more -- was basically losing my shit when he got a deluge of calls from kids correcting him

some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

um... only song I don't like here is "up oUt my face" remix... "bedrock" is awful too but I love the chorus and nicki's verse so that gets a pass... and "Lil Freak" is my single of the year so far and I'm really confused as to why no one here seems to like it.......... anyway Nicki is the best part of all of these songs besides "Up Out My Face"

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 27 February 2010 06:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

one of Nicki's better guest verses:

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 27 February 2010 06:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Voted "Bedrock" btw but I haven't heard a couple of the others. In twenty years when TV shows make fun of 2010s "Minajamania," that's the song that'll get played so whatev.

I kinda like bits of what she does when I hear them but GOD is she unbearable on video. Her bits on "Up Out My Face" for example are kinda okay - it's like seeing her make the goofy faces and camp it up really calls attention to how affected the goofy voices and campy rapping is. Which OK, is about what you'd expect somebody to do but I wish it was delivered more po-facedly. Just reminds me of high-school sketch comedy or local improv night, trying too damn hard.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

a lot of ny rap/pop writers are stanning for this woman like she's something significantly more than a court jester, or that she posses any talent beyond parlaying ho-rap photoshoots into a fake lady gaga schtik that is noteworthy because rap and pop music is totally devoid of personality, even annoying manufactured ones like this. she can spit a hot verse or two but most of the time she just sounds like a 6 year old who hasn't been diagnosed with ADD. she's an alright radio presence cuz it's genuinely funny to listen to her rap now, and there is a slight chance that she'll say something dope, but acting like there's anything beyond that is really fishing for angles where there aren't any. mainstream rap writers missed out on gucci mane & propping nicki up ain't gonna cut it.

her turn from good but spotty female rapper to robin williams on coke jabbermouth mirrors lil wayne's sudden style switch up/drop in quality minus give or take four classic albums/mixtapes

― Yo cassidy is so hot. He blowin up really big. His freestyles are si (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:19 (2 days ago)

i pretty much don't know anything about rap, but i love nicki, and her rapping makes me very happy

yeahhh (surm), Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's like seeing her make the goofy faces and camp it up really calls attention to how affected the goofy voices and campy rapping is.

yeah, this is otm

The Reverend, Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah her first big video appearance in "5 Star" was horrifying/hilarious to me, like just suddenly realizing how far she was gonna take the weird posture and bug eyes and fembot mannerisms at the exact moment it was clear she was about to be pretty ubiquitous for a while

dora the explaro (some dude), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

I rationalize all these bad rappers by saying "at least he ain't Petey Pablo"

Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

...

The Reverend, Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

i really miss the times when i would hear songs on the radio

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

do you just no longer own a car or did you used to have a radio and got rid of it or what

dora the explaro (some dude), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

I rationalize all these bad rappers by saying "at least he ain't Nelly"

Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

got rid of car in 2001
stopped watching MTV around 2005

like the only way i know popular songs exist is via what people say and link on the internet and that makes me feel so disconnected and kills me inside

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dunno i like the idea of having more control over what to listen to. the local stations here tended to do stuff in 2001 like play Ginuwine's "My Whole Life has Changed" and Usher's "U Got It Bad" every hour on the hour, and I liked both songs but it was like how many times did I need to hear it in a day?

Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

and like even though i "listened to more records than christgau" (or whatever that article said) in 2009, that was still 100% via promo CDs and pirated zips and rars from leak blogs. i heard 1,000 ALBUMS, not singles.

i literally have no way of hearing a "hot single" unless i turn off what i'm listening to and click a YouTube link.

And that makes me feel awful

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

like the only way i know popular songs exist is via what people say and link on the internet and that makes me feel so disconnected and kills me inside

― zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, February 27, 2010 9:46 AM Bookmark

feel u dude, I haven't had a car or tv since september. it's a weird feeling.

The Reverend, Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah same to an extent, when i'm at school i mostly hear radio songs via friends' cars or checking what the hits are on billboard's site & youtubing them - during breaks and shit it's such a great feeling to be able to drive around and listen to the radio, regardless of how bad the songs are

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Eh, I'm on the fence about her shtick. This song is pretty good, though...
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Die117, Saturday, 27 February 2010 20:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

^ sorry, I'm no good at embedding vids.

Die117, Saturday, 27 February 2010 20:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

really think "saxon" is fucking incredible

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 February 2010 20:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

like the only way i know popular songs exist is via what people say and link on the internet and that makes me feel so disconnected and kills me inside

― zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, February 27, 2010 9:46 AM Bookmark

feel u dude, I haven't had a car or tv since september. it's a weird feeling.

― The Reverend, Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:48 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not being glib or anything, but u guys should get like a little walkman or clock radio or one of those waterproof dealies that can go in the shower, imo a few minutes a day of radio listening is nice. tbh i don't know why FM radios aren't part of the package with iPods, i know why include a dead technology with the hot new thing etc. but it seems like a no-brainer to me.

some dude, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 00:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Is there a thread I can't find where people discuss "Did It On 'Em"? Because maaaaaaaaan

If you could turn back time... CHER
Used to be here, now you're gone... NAIR

also v. disappointed the string of F1 rhymes doesn't go for "You need some help... F1"

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 2 April 2011 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

"did it on em" is incredible, sometimes you just have to give in to the grocery bag. U AIN'T MY SON U MY MUHFUKKIN STEPSON

right now i kind of think "super bass" might be the most perfect bubblegum rap pop song - really no wonder taylor swift and selena gomez were so taken by that one particularly

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

italics don't make a line hot

bernard so icey (some dude), Saturday, 2 April 2011 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

How is the stepson line a grocerybag line lex?

Tim F, Saturday, 2 April 2011 22:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

I really like the "used to be here/hair, now you're gone... NAIR" line

dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

anyway 'bedrock' is secretly a great song

dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, no

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm gudda gudda

dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

i can't tell if "did it on em" is worse on the radio because 40% of the words are bleeped out, or is better on the radio because 40% of the words are bleeped out

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

altho i will give it to nicki, pissing on your children would be pretty disrespectful

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

the beat seems so spare, and not in a good 'ether' kind of way either

dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

'bedrock' is like a fun summer version of 'black and yellow'

dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

you're intentionally not trying to make sense right

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm gudda gudda

dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Did It On Em" is a totally mediocre mixtape song but compared to most of Nicki's other hits (and "Roman's Revenge" if j0rdan is still pretending that's a hit) it's kinda dope.

"Bed Rock" is a landmark piece of shit but it 'works' on some level that most stupid Young Money songs don't

bernard so icey (some dude), Sunday, 3 April 2011 01:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was hearing "roman's revenge" a ton on the radio but then "moment 4 life" came along & steam rolled it -- i wasn't pretending about anything

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 01:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

some solid anecdata itt

dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 01:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh ok i never heard it on the radio once, i just thought it was funny when you talked about how it's totally going to place on pazz & jop next year

bernard so icey (some dude), Sunday, 3 April 2011 01:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

there've been too many times in the past few months where i've heard back to back young money songs on the radio

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 01:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

like "moment 4 life" -> "aston martin music" should not be allowed (even tho M4L has my favorite drake verse)

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 01:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

the worst is when i'm flipping between the 3 balt/d.c. rap stations and sometimes i'll hear Young Money on all 3 (or just Nicki on all 3, or all Drake, or all Trey Songz, or all Chris Brown). that kind of thing happens frighteningly often.

bernard so icey (some dude), Sunday, 3 April 2011 01:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

How is the stepson line a grocerybag line lex?

oh it's not! i was quoting it separately to my comment about grocery bagging.

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Haha I was trying to work out what "You ain't my son you my muhhfucking #stepson" might mean.

Tim F, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

so which tracks are actually the official singles atm? j0rdan says "roman's revenge" and "did it on em" are getting airplay, i heard "super bass" was gonna be a single, she's done a video for "fly" and i just got a promo single of "girls fall like dominoes".

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought "Super Bass" was a bonus track? Or did she wise up?

Tim F, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah idk what's an official single or not -- i have a feeling that "roman's revenge" & "did it on em" are not official singles bcuz neither is edited for radio beyond straight silencing of the curses but that isn't exactly scientific of course

oh yeah i've heard the drake/nicki song off 'thank me later' ("what bitch you know made a million off a mixtape?") on the radio twice in the past two days

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, as is "girls fall like dominoes" - i guess she wised up! plus she's been taking lots of twitter feedback, which i assume is mostly along the consensus lines. also "super bass" got a ton of attention when taylor and selena covered it. also it's such a fucking obvious pop smash!

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

i assume "girls fall like dominoes" will just be the UK single given the big pink sample (i assume they're british)

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

you're also assuming that they're dead right?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

well dude doesn't exactly sound in peak health to me

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Did It On Em" is definitely an official single -- i mean it's already in the top 10 of the R&B chart. basically it's been "Your Love," "Right Thru Me," "Moment 4 Life," then that, but since it's a huge hit album obv other songs are gonna get videos or pockets of airplay. it's rare these days any rap album keeps getting promoted w/ singles once it's been out 6 months, though, so no idea if anything will get a big push after "Did It On Em" runs its course.

bernard so icey (some dude), Sunday, 3 April 2011 12:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

i haven't played this album in full a second time since I bought it. some good songs but mostly only the bonus tracks.

San Te, Sunday, 3 April 2011 12:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

'bedrock' is like a fun summer version of 'black and yellow' ―dayo, Saturday, April 2, 2011 7:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Wow. Just.....

Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 April 2011 13:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

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dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 13:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

bernard so icey (some dude), Sunday, 3 April 2011 14:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

were they on The Real World or something

San Te, Sunday, 3 April 2011 17:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

well the video had a "7 strangers picked to live in a house and dismantle the art of punchline rap together" theme

bernard so icey (some dude), Sunday, 3 April 2011 18:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i somehow only heard up out my face remix the other day for the first time, had forgotten how much i loved the original but: best minaj verse imo love her in a softer 90's pop rn'b setting

flopson, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 05:13 (3 years ago) Permalink


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