"Is it rolling, Bob?": aka the 2008 P&J/Idolator trolling thread

xhuxk, is anything from the country side of the fence likely to do well on either poll this year? (not counting the inevitable DBT placing, of course).

is anything from the country side of the fence likely to do well on either poll

I dunno, alt-country stuff like Lucinda Williams and that McMurtry album and Hayes Carrl will get some votes, though maybe not enough to place. As for Nashville stuff, I definitely won't be the only person to vote for Jamey Johnson, but I doubt it will get enough support to make a difference. Um...Willie Nelson (with or without Branford Marsalis)? Dolly Parton? I dunno.

Was wondering about token metal/hard rock finishers, too: Harvey Milk? Made Out of Babies? Metallica?? Guns N Roses???

i take it there's nothing like last years Miranda Lambert album for folks to rally round this time out then?

I'd add Kathleen Edwards to that alt-country crop.

"what?"

(you must imagine this being said by will forte on last week's SNL)

"Love Lockdown" top 5 for sure.

― Whiney G. Soundgarden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:56 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

more crazy pills! "Stronger" wasn't top 5 last year, and that song's much closer to "Stronger" in terms of popularity than "Gold Digger."

i take it there's nothing like last years Miranda Lambert album for folks to rally round this time out then?

Not that I can think of. Unless people start rallying around Taylor Swift when it comes out (which is possible, but not real likely.)

Guess Kid Rock "All Summer Long" could conceivably place in the singles, if that counts. Though I bet he doesn't do as good as Katy Perry.

Ashton Shepherd is the lone country choice on Sasha Frere-Jones album list on his blog. Maybe she'll get some votes.

stefan's stats on Acclaimed Music Forum collates critics data from online and print sources

UPDATE : 01/10/08 : MEGA-CRITIC : Best Reviewed Albums Of 2008 So Far
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/904435

THE MEGA-CRITIC-CHARTS :

The current position is followed by last month´s position in brackets, then the adjusted score, followed by the average rating and the number of reviews in brackets.

The scores after the title are the individual positions/adjusted scores for Europe, the UK and the US, followed by the current Metacritic score.

01. (01 ) 76,56 - 88,06 (24 ) Fleet Foxes ´Fleet Foxes´
EU : 01. 79,83 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 04. 71,96 - MC : 87

02. (02 ) 74,07 - 83,69 (26 ) Portishead ´Third´
EU : 02. 74,48 - UK : 05. 74,49 - US : 03. 73,13 - MC : 85

03. (03 ) 73,15 - 82,40 (26 ) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds ´Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!´
EU : 08. 70,29 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 02. 74,11 - MC : 87

04. (00 ) 72,28 - 82,82 (22 ) TV On The Radio ´Dear Science´
EU : 21. 67,91 - UK : 08. 73,86 - US : 01. 76,67 - MC : 91

05. (05 ) 71,87 - 81,76 (23 ) Bon Iver ´For Emma, Forever Ago´
EU : 10. 70,19 - UK : 01. 77,55 - US : 19. 68,63 - MC : 89

06. (04 ) 71,84 - 80,92 (25 ) The Hold Steady ´Stay Positive´
EU : 11. 70,14 - UK : 04. 75,51 - US : 06. 70,80 - MC : 85

07. (06 ) 70,74 - 79,73 (24 ) Hercules And Love Affair ´Hercules And Love Affair´
EU : 23. 67,88 - UK : 05. 74,49 - US : 05. 71,18 - MC : 86

08. (07 ) 70,63 - 78,89 (26 ) Vampire Weekend ´Vampire Weekend´
EU : 06. 70,97 - UK : 13. 71,43 - US : 11. 69,46 - MC : 82

09. (09 ) 69,77 - 81,19 (18 ) Randy Newman ´Harps & Angels´
EU : 03. 72,12 - UK : 43. 67,65 - US : 40. 67,08 - MC : 85

10. (08 ) 69,53 - 81,47 (17 ) Lil Wayne ´Tha Carter III´
EU : 05. 71,06 - UK : 43. 67,65 - US : 13. 69,22 - MC : 82

11. (10 ) 69,26 - 80,39 (18 ) Erykah Badu ´New Amerykah : Part One (4th World War)´
EU : 15. 68,60 - UK : 32. 69,23 - US : 08. 70,11 - MC : 82

12. (11 ) 68,86 - 79,18 (19 ) Silver Jews ´Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea´
EU : 20. 68,03 - UK : 16. 70,51 - US : 20. 68,53 - MC : 78

13. (12 ) 67,94 - 78,91 (17 ) Elbow ´The Seldom Seen Kid´
EU : 51. 64,42 - UK : 05. 74,49 - US : 94. 64,15 - MC : 82

14. (13 ) 67,87 - 75,96 (23 ) The Last Shadow Puppets ´The Age Of The Understatement´
EU : 04. 71,53 - UK : 71. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

15. (14 ) 67,66 - 78,47 (17 ) No Age ´Nouns´
EU : 16. 68,56 - UK : 00000000 - US : 18. 68,73 - MC : 79

16. (15 ) 67,61 - 75,93 (22 ) Sigur Ros ´Med Sud I Eyrum Vid Spilum Endalaust´
EU : 12. 69,89 - UK : 23. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

17. (16 ) 67,44 - 79,53 (15 ) The Bug ´London Zoo´
EU : 56. 64,14 - UK : 12. 71,59 - US : 39. 67,10 - MC : 90

18. (17 ) 67,38 - 76,90 (19 ) The Dodos ´Visiter´
EU : 45. 64,91 - UK : 19. 70,46 - US : 33. 67,50 - MC : 83

19. (18 ) 67,12 - 75,60 (21 ) Black Mountain ´In The Future´
EU : 19. 68,19 - UK : 61. 67,05 - US : 55. 65,88 - MC : 79

20. (19 ) 66,90 - 74,54 (23 ) MGMT ´Oracular Spectacular´
EU : 09. 70,24 - UK : 21. 70,41 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

21. (20 ) 66,86 - 73,88 (25 ) Hot Chip ´Made In The Dark´
EU : 36. 65,87 - UK : 00000000 - US : 10. 69,51 - MC : 78

22. (21 ) 66,51 - 74,69 (21 ) The Gutter Twins ´Saturnalia´
EU : 14. 68,85 - UK : 40. 67,95 - US : 00000000 - MC : 80

23. (00 ) 66,50 - 82,09 (11 ) Glasvegas ´Glasvegas´
EU : 13. 69,41 - UK : 23. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 83

24. (22 ) 66,43 - 73,26 (25 ) R.E.M. ´Accelerate´
EU : 58. 63,93 - UK : 23. 69,39 - US : 36. 67,35 - MC : 79

25. (23 ) 66,41 - 75,89 (18 ) Drive-By Truckers ´Brighter Than Creation´s Dark´
EU : 07. 70,70 - UK : 00000000 - US : 81. 64,71 - MC : 83

26. (24 ) 66,20 - 75,56 (18 ) Los Campesinos! ´Hold On Now,Youngster´
EU : 63. 63,68 - UK : 37. 68,37 - US : 38. 67,22 - MC : 81

27. (40 ) 66,17 - 79,16 (13 ) Late Of The Pier ´Fantasy Black Channel´
EU : 53. 64,28 - UK : 09. 73,47 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

28. (25 ) 66,10 - 73,71 (22 ) Santogold ´Santogold´
EU : 26. 67,58 - UK : 00000000 - US : 15. 69,13 - MC : 77

29. (26 ) 65,83 - 73,32 (22 ) Wolf Parade ´At Mount Zoomer´
EU : 24. 67,84 - UK : 00000000 - US : 23. 68,21 - MC : 78

30. (27 ) 65,70 - 77,36 (14 ) Bonnie ´Prince´ Billy ´Lie Down In The Light´
EU : 42. 65,18 - UK : 43. 67,65 - US : 82. 64,52 - MC : 80

31. (28 ) 65,67 - 73,43 (21 ) The Black Keys ´Attack And Release´
EU : 30. 66,69 - UK : 71. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

32. (29 ) 65,47 - 77,85 (13 ) Robert Forster ´The Evangelist´
EU : 22. 67,89 - UK : 92. 65,52 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

33. (37 ) 65,46 - 72,77 (22 ) Lykke Li ´Youth Novels´
EU : 34. 65,90 - UK : 71. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

34. (30 ) 65,33 - 71,98 (24 ) The Breeders ´Mountain Battles´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 37. 68,37 - US : 16. 68,93 - MC : 75

35. (31 ) 65,33 - 74,71 (17 ) Why? ´Alopecia´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 09. 70,10 - MC : 76

36. (32 ) 65,31 - 71,68 (25 ) Magnetic Fields ´Distortion´
EU : 25. 67,78 - UK : 00000000 - US : 33. 67,50 - MC : 79

37. (33 ) 65,24 - 71,58 (25 ) Cat Power ´Jukebox´
EU : 29. 66,72 - UK : 00000000 - US : 73. 64,90 - MC : 72

38. (34 ) 65,24 - 73,58 (19 ) Spiritualized ´Songs In A & E´
EU : 93. 62,19 - UK : 61. 67,05 - US : 37. 67,28 - MC : 76

39. (35 ) 65,20 - 71,52 (25 ) Beck ´Modern Guilt´
EU : 49. 64,65 - UK : 00000000 - US : 56. 65,80 - MC : 77

40. (36 ) 65,04 - 75,47 (15 ) Al Green ´Lay It Down´
EU : 41. 65,29 - UK : 00000000 - US : 35. 67,44 - MC : 81

41. (37 ) 65,00 - 74,75 (16 ) Neon Neon ´Stainless Style´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 21. 70,41 - US : 90. 64,39 - MC : 79

41. (37 ) 65,00 - 72,43 (21 ) Joan As Police Woman ´To Survive´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 13. 71,43 - US : 00000000 - MC 76

43. (00 ) 64,96 - 76,92 (13 ) Flying Lotus ´Los Angeles´
EU : 68. 63,45 - UK : 00000000 - US : 42. 66,71 - MC : 00

44. (41 ) 64,78 - 77,58 (12 ) Ry Cooder ´I, Flathead´
EU : 17. 68,51 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

45. (42 ) 64,72 - 74,93 (15 ) Wire ´Object 47´
EU : 75. 63,19 - UK : 00000000 - US : 21. 68,48 - MC : 77

46. (43 ) 64,72 - 73,22 (18 ) Cass Mccombs ´Dropping The Writ´
EU : 48. 64,68 - UK : 28. 69,32 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

47. (44 ) 64,67 - 78,55 (11 ) Earth ´The Bees Made Honey In The Lion´s Skull´
EU : 67. 63,51 - UK : 58. 67,24 - US : 96. 64,03 - MC : 00

48. (45 ) 64,59 - 72,58 (19 ) The Mountain Goats ´Heretic Pride´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 61. 67,05 - US : 13. 69,22 - MC : 74

49. (46 ) 64,59 - 70,42 (26 ) Conor Oberst ´Conor Oberst´
EU : 33. 66,10 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 75

50. (47 ) 64,53 - 78,27 (11 ) Frightened Rabbit ´The Midnight Organ Fight´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 77. 66,18 - US : 77. 64,76 - MC : 80

THE BUBBLERS :

53. (00 ) 64,46 - 77,00 (12 ) Roots Manuva ´Slime & Reason´
EU : 55. 64,15 - UK : 28. 69,32 - US : 00000000 - MC : 79

55. (56 ) 64,45 - 74,47 (15 ) Lindström ´Where You Go I Go Too´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 77. 66,18 - US : 26. 68,04 - MC : 82

56. (00 ) 64,44 - 72,78 (18 ) Calexico ´Carried To Dust´
EU : 89. 62,46 - UK : 83. 65,91 - US : 64. 65,61 - MC : 77

59. (96 ) 64,29 - 74,20 (15 ) The Cool Kids ´The Bake Sale´
EU : 68. 63,45 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 78

64. (00 ) 63,91 - 72,41 (17 ) Metallica ´Death Magnetic´
EU : 87. 62,66 - UK : 32. 69,23 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

66. (00 ) 63,81 - 74,07 (14 ) okkervil River ´The Stand Ins´
EU : 60. 63,86 - UK . 00000000 - US : 32. 67,55 - MC : 78

72. (88 ) 63,49 - 70,87 (19 ) Paul Weller ´22 Dreams´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 16. 70,51 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

75. (00 ) 63,33 - 74,00 (13 ) Giant Sand ´proVISIONS´
EU : 47. 64,68 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 74

93. (00 ) 62,75 - 72,21 (14 ) Bodies Of Water ´A Certain Feeling´
EU : 64. 63,65 - UK : 00000000 - US : 82. 64,51 - MC : 74

FURTHER EU-POSITIONS :

18. (17 ) 68,27 Opeth ´Watershed´
27. (25 ) 67,50 Madrugada ´Madrugada´
28. (26 ) 67,02 The Notwist ´The Devil, You And Me´
31. (00 ) 66,42 Brian Wilson ´That Lucky Old Sun´
32. (30 ) 66,17 Elvis Costello & The Imposters ´Momofuku´
35. (32 ) 65,89 Death Cab For Cutie ´Narrow Stairs´
37. (34 ) 65,77 Willard Grant Conspiracy ´Pilgrim Road´
38. (35 ) 65,70 Tindersticks ´The Hungry Saw´
39. (00 ) 65,61 Ron Sexsmith ´Exit Strategy Of The Soul´
40. (36 ) 65,49 Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan ´Sunday At Devil Dirt´
43. (38 ) 65,00 Sascha Funke ´Mango´
43. (38 ) 65,00 Emmylou Harris ´All I Intended To Be´
46. (41 ) 64,90 Be Your Own Pet ´Get Awkward´
50. (45 ) 64,48 My Morning Jacket ´Evil Urges´

FURTHER UK-POSITIONS :

10. (09 ) 72,45 British Sea Power ´Do You Like Rock Music´
11. (10 ) 72,41 Plush ´Fed´
15. (14 ) 70,59 Eliza Carthy ´Dreams Of Breathing Underwater´
16. (15 ) 70,51 Johnny Flynn ´A Larum´
19. (19 ) 70,46 White Denim ´Workout Holiday´
23. (23 ) 69,39 These New Puritans ´Beat Pyramid´
23. (23 ) 69,39 Mystery Jets ´Twenty One´
28. (27 ) 69,32 Wild Beasts ´Limbo Panto´
28. (00 ) 69,32 David Holmes ´The Holy Pictures´
32. (29 ) 69,23 DeVotchKa ´A Mad And Faithful Telling´
32. (29 ) 69,23 Teddy Thompson ´A Piece Of What You Need´
36. (32 ) 69,12 Thea Gilmore ´Liejacker´
37. (33 ) 68,37 The Raconteurs ´Consolers Of The Lonely´
40. (36 ) 67,95 Cadence Weapon ´Afterparty Babies´
40. (36 ) 67,95 Sparks ´Exotic Creatures Of The Deep´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Toumani Diabaté ´The Mandé Variations´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Benga ´Diary Of An Afro Warrior´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Fuck Buttons ´Street Horrrsing´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Flight Of The Conchords ´Flight Of The Conchords´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Kasai All Stars ´In The 7th Moon ...´
43. (00 ) 67,65 James Yorkston ´When The Haar Rolls In´
43. (00 ) 67,65 Lindsey Buckingham ´Gift Of Screws´

FURTHER US-POSITIONS :

07. (06 ) 70,48 GAS ´Nah und Fern´
12. (11 ) 69,24 Robyn ´Robyn´ (2005)
17. (16 ) 68,78 Times New Viking ´Rip It Off´
22. (21 ) 68,33 Torche ´Meanderthal´
24. (00 ) 68,17 High Places ´High Places´
25. (00 ) 68,06 Shugo Tokumaru ´Exit´
27. (24 ) 67,72 Ellen Allien ´Sool´
28. (25 ) 67,68 Matmos ´Supreme Balloon´
29. (26 ) 67,65 Destroyer ´Trouble In Dreams´
30. (27 ) 67,56 Kelley Polar ´I Need You To Hold On ...´
30. (00 ) 76,56 Harvey Milk ´Life ... The Best Game In Town´
41. (36 ) 66,81 Food For Animals ´Belly´
43. (38 ) 66,67 Beach House ´Devotion´
43. (38 ) 66,67 Health ´Disco´
45. (40 ) 66,53 The Music Tapes ´Music Tapes For Clouds & Tornadoes´
46. (41 ) 66,39 Eat Skull ´Sick To Death´
47. (42 ) 66,37 Islands ´Arm´s Way´
48. (43 ) 66,30 Alejandro Escovedo ´Real Animal´
49. (44 ) 66,25 Leila ´Blood, Looms And Blooms´
50. (45 ) 66,13 Jonny Greenwood ´Let There Be Blood´
50. (45 ) 66,13 Karen Dalton ´Green Rocky Road´

ENJOY !!

Next update on October 31st.

hahah, no mention of the Hold Steady album yet. oh, how the mighty have fallen. it's a really good record, tho.

get those eyes scanned - bloated basic trad rock n roll at 6

06. (04 ) 71,84 - 80,92 (25 ) The Hold Steady ´Stay Positive´
EU : 11. 70,14 - UK : 04. 75,51 - US : 06. 70,80 - MC : 85

mega-critic methodology is what i refer as the critical mainstream

ABOUT ´MEGA-CRITIC´
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/820019

ABOUT ´MEGA-CRITIC´

INTENT :

´MEGA-CRITIC´ ARE THE UP-TO DATE CHARTS OF THE RUNNING YEAR´S BEST REVIEWED ALBUMS. THEY ARE PUBLISHED EXCLUSIVELY HERE IN THE ´ACCLAIMED MUSIC FORUM´ AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH MONTH.

SOURCES :

THE CHARTS ARE CALCULATED ON THE BASE OF 26 SOURCES IN 3 REGIONS :

EUROPE / DAGBLADET (NO) - EXPRESSEN (SW) - GAFFA (DK) - HUMO (BE) - MONDOSONORO (ES) - MUSIK-EXPRESS (GE) - NOJESGUIDEN (SW) - PLATTENTESTS (GE) - ROCK&FOLK (FR) - SPIEGEL (DE) - SVD (SW)

UK / DROWNED IN SOUND - GUARDIAN - MUSICOMH - NME - OBSERVER MUSIC MONTHLY - Q - UNCUT

US / COKEMACHINEGLOW - PITCHFORKMEDIA - POPMATTERS - PREFIX - ROLLING STONE - SLANT - SPIN - TINYMIXTAPES

no, i noticed that. i meant they hadn't been mentioned on this thread prior to that post. obviously they still get lots of love, just not much from around these parts i guess.

xp

Pitchfork's 50 Highest Rated Albums of 2008
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/kenyon330/pitchforks_50_highest_rated_albums_of_2008

x-post Like metacritic he arbitrarily uses only certain critics.

I guess those are the mega critics (r'n'b, hiphop and other non-rock sources need not apply). Ho-hum.

hahah, no mention of the Hold Steady album yet. oh, how the mighty have fallen. it's a really good record, tho.

― Ioannis, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:02 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hold Steady will do well. I don't know why you have to hear someone say it.

The Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes both seem pretty thin to me.

Ashton Shepherd is the lone country choice on Sasha Frere-Jones album list on his blog.

Actually he's also got Taylor Swift at #6, though for all I know he added her today, after I mentioned her upthread. (Album's still not out yet, I don't think.)

And duh, Opeth could be the token metal placer. (And Alejandro Escovedo could be the big alt-country album, despite having no country per se' on his album.)

Also, I've never cared about them myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if My Morning Jacket finish high, with lots of support from daily paper critics in flyover country.

Chinese Democracy in Top 10?

I could see Chinese Democracy placing in the top 10, assuming it's not awful. Taylor Swift also sounds like a good chance to be the token country album and re: Kathleen Edwards upthread - she's on my top 10 list.

There's still a Fall Out Boy album coming out, and they did well on the Singles list last year IIRC? Also, I figure Adele's single charts well, and didn't the Stephen Malkmus album come out this year? That seems like a good shot for top 20 at least. As for #1, I really wouldn't be shocked with Vampire Weekend taking it.

Quick Q about Paper Planes - how does that qualify for this year? Is it because it was used in Pineapple Express? Wasn't it a single in 2007?

year of widest impact rule + the previous polls' carryover votes (as Chuck already mentioned).

songs that broke this year but aren't from this year are eligible, FWIW. take "Rehab"--got some UK votes last year, will likely get non-UK votes this year. perfectly OK.

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― Matos W.K., Sunday, December 9, 2007 10:13 PM Bookmark

joemc, aren't you asumming that it will be actually released?

"Paper Planes" peaked pretty high on last year's lists (#6 on P&J, #3 on Idolator), so it would probably take a lot of critics willing to vote for it 2 years in a row to get it high on this year's lists.

There's still a Fall Out Boy album coming out, and they did well on the Singles list last year IIRC?

Not really ("This Ain't A Scene" was I think the top 100, but nowhere near "Sugar, We're Going Down" placing at #30 in '05). Plus they kind of captured the zeitgeist last year and were still only moderately embraced by critics, and I can't see the new album doing as well commercially or critically. Not a factor in P&J at all this year.

What will the two token electronic records be?

Herc And Love Affair, then Lindstrom probably?

do Portishead count?

"Paper Planes" peaked pretty high on last year's lists (#6 on P&J, #3 on Idolator), so it would probably take a lot of critics willing to vote for it 2 years in a row to get it high on this year's lists.

Nah, it would have to be different critics voting for it, not the same critics; votes duplicated that way wouldn't count the second time, assuming the carryover math is done correctly. But I can see a number of older, more mainstream, middle American critics who aren't particurlarly otherwise M.I.A. fans voting for the song this year after hearing it on the radio, plus maybe some hip-hop critics, plus people who voted for the album last year but now think of "Paper Planes" more as a single. It would have to get at least half as many new voters this year for the years' two totals to be added together; not a foregone conclusion, but probably not impossible, either.

dr. phil, I want to know what are your favorite duranguese and banda and norteno cds for the year? You used to (still ?) write about such genres, right?

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:27 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Thanks for thinking of me, but I've really fallen off. Jenni Rivera's album is wonderful, and "La Cumbia del Rio" by Los Pikadientes is sort of conceptually wonderful in an "A Milli" way, but that's all I got.

ah, OK, thanks for clearing that up. and to answer your question from earlier, no, I don't think "Swagga Like Us" was really liked enough to be a factor in these polls.

xpost

"Paper Planes" has felt to me like a bona fide 2008 single. In 2007, it still felt like an album track.

This is a pretty stinky year for music. Especially disappointing after a very strong 2007.

hopefully Chinese Democracy will more than make up for the year's deficiencies. ;^)

dr. phil, are you formerly "unperson"?

This is a pretty stinky year for music. Especially disappointing after a very strong 2007.

every fucking year we got this nonsense

Dr. Phil is not Unperson.

ok, thx

Was wondering about token metal/hard rock finishers, too: Harvey Milk? Made Out of Babies? Metallica?? Guns N Roses???

― xhuxk, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:14 PM (2 days ago) Bookm

I'm betting Made Out of Babies. "Weird" without being too weird, which the others can't really claim. Or maybe I've just heard the Harvey Milk too many times.

I don't get Chuck's "all hipsters like Made Out Of Babies" thread from a while back. The only hipsters I know that like them are, like, me and skot. none of the hip mags or BLOLGS cover them really that i've seen...

My bets for top ten (no order): H&LA, VW, TVotR, Wayne, Badu, Foxes, Portishead, Kanye?, Santogold?, Hold Steady?, Bad Seeds?, Randy Newman in token fogey slot?

kanye won't come out in time

the only competition for wayne are badu and tvotr in albums and maybe "blind" for singles

there isn't a pop song that's going to crossover "umbrella" style more than "a milli" and there isn't an indie song that's going to galvanize like "all my friends"

i don't see how "a milli" doesn't win this year

maybe vampire weekend for albums but i think they are too handicapped by haterz to break out of the 3-5 range

xp Really? I've seen a lot of praise for it on ILX/blogs, I guess, but I don't see what's so special about it, and it certainly doesn't feel like it had as wide a pop-cultural impact as the last couple of P&J winners ("Rehab," "Crazy").

yeah idk about p&j but i think it will certainly take idolator at the very least by default

i just dunno what else is galvanizing tons of people this year besides wayne and that's his best, big single

This has been a great year for metal, relatively boring year (so far) for rap, and a mildly entertaining year for chart pop.

I can't tell how "I Kissed a Girl" will place. It seems like it is that kind of zeitgeisty pop culture song that often get rewarded in year-end polls (it's merited a SNL parody, for instance), but so many people hate it.

I reckon MGMT will do very well indeed. It's probably the closest thing to a consensus pick for people this year, I hear it absolutely everywhere. Much much much more than Vampire Weekend.

there's a top 10 singles of 08 thread already

So we're halfway through 2008; what are your top 10 SONGS of this year, so far?

fuck 10 songz, i'm talking 100 singlez

eh maybe i'll post it there anyway, i just feel like i'd be fucking up the flow

haha i don't think anyone is going to mind

if there is no idolator poll then i dont get to vote yay no having to choose woo hoo u.s.a.

alright, done

(xpost lol)

oh i'll post mine there too then

new update:

UPDATE : 01/11/08 : MEGA-CRITIC : Best Reviewed Albums Of 2008 So Far
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/915330

THE MEGA-CRITIC CHART :

The current position is followed by last month´s position in brackets, then the adjusted score, followed by the average rating and the number of reviews in brackets.

The scores after the title are the individual positions/adjusted scores for Europe, the UK and the US, followed by the current Metacritic score.

50. (43 ) 64,96 - 76,92 (13 ) Flying Lotus ´Los Angeles´
EU : 71. 63,45 - UK : 00000000 - US : 48. 66,71 - MC : 00

49. (00 ) 64,97 - 73,16 (19 ) Calexico ´Carried To Dust´
EU : 93. 62,46 - UK : 93. 65,91 - US : 44. 67,17 - MC : 78

47. (41 ) 65,00 - 72,43 (21 ) Joan As A Police Woman ´To Survive´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 13. 71,43 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

47. (41 ) 65,00 - 74,75 (16 ) Neon Neon ´Stainless Style´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 22. 70,41 - US : 00000000 - MC : 79

46. (40 ) 65,04 - 75,47 (15 ) Al Green ´Lay It Down´
EU : 43. 65,29 - UK : 00000000 - US : 39. 67,44 - MC : 81

45. (00 ) 65,19 - 79,55 (11 ) Fucked Up ´The Chemistry Of Modern Life´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 36. 69,12 - US : 13. 69,27 - MC : 83

44. (39 ) 65,20 - 71,52 (25 ) Beck ´Modern Guilt´
EU : 51. 64,65 - UK : 00000000 - US : 64. 65,80 - MC : 77

43. (38 ) 65,24 - 73,58 (19 ) Spiritualized ´Songs In A & E´
EU : 97. 92,19 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 42. 67,28 - MC : 76

42. (37 ) 65,24 - 71,58 (25 ) Cat Power ´Jukebox´
EU : 29. 66,72 - UK : 00000000 - US : 84. 64,90 - MC : 72

41. (36 ) 65,31 - 71,68 (25 ) Magnetic Fields ´Distortion´
EU : 25. 67,78 - UK : 00000000 - US : 36. 67,50 - MC : 79

40. (00 ) 65,33 - 74,36 (11 ) Opeth ´Watershed´
EU : 13. 69,56 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

39. (35 ) 65,33 - 74,71 (17 ) Why? ´Alopecia´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 09. 70,10 - MC : 76

38. (34 ) 65,33 - 71,98 (24 ) The Breeders ´Mountain Battles´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 38. 68,37 - US : 18. 68,93 - MC : 75

37. (00 ) 65,36 - 77,65 (13 ) Gang Gang Dance ´Saint Dymphna´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 07. 70,49 - MC : 80

36. (00 ) 65,42 - 75,44 (16 ) Lindström ´Where You Go I Go Too´
EU : 91. 62,60 - UK : 85. 66,18 - US : 28. 68,04 - MC : 82

35. (33 ) 65,46 - 72,77 (22 ) Lykke Li ´Youth Novels´
EU : 34. 65,90 - UK : 79. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

34. (32 ) 65,47 - 77,85 (13 ) Robert Forster ´The Evangelist´
EU : 23. 67,89 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

33. (31 ) 65,67 - 73,43 (21 ) The Black Keys ´Attack And Release´
EU : 30. 66,69 - UK : 79. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

32. (30 ) 65,70 - 77,36 (14 ) Bonnie ´Prince´ Billy ´Lie Down In The Light´
EU : 44. 65,18 - UK : 44. 67,65 - US : 94. 64,52 - MC : 80

31. (00 ) 65,71 - 79,33 (12 ) Deerhunter ´Microcastle´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 10. 69,76 - MC : 84

30. (29 ) 65,83 - 73,32 (22 ) Wolf Parade ´At Mount Zoomer´
EU : 24. 67,84 - UK : 00000000 - US : 25. 68,21 - MC : 78

29. (28 ) 66,10 - 73,71 (22 ) Santogold ´Santogold´
EU : 26. 67,58 - UK : 00000000 - US : 17. 69,13 - MC : 77

28. (27 ) 66,17 - 79,16 (13 ) Late Of The Pier ´Fantasy Black Channel´
EU : 56. 64,28 - UK : 09. 73,47 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

27. (26 ) 66,20 - 75,56 (18 ) Los Campesinos! ´Hold On Now, Youngster´
EU : 66. 63,68 - UK : 38. 68,37 - US : 43. 67,22 - MC : 81

26. (00 ) 66,37 - 74,48 (21 ) Okkervil River ´The Stand Ins´
EU : 42. 65,30 - UK : 72. 66,67 - US : 35. 67,55 - MC : 79

25. (25 ) 66,41 - 75,89 (18 ) Drive-By Truckers ´Brighter Than Creation´s Dark´
EU : 07. 70,70 - UK : 00000000 - US : 92. 64,71 - MC : 83

24. (24 ) 66,43 - 73,26 (25 ) R.E.M. ´Accelerate´
EU : 61. 63,93 - UK : 24. 69,39 - US : 40. 67,35 - MC : 79

23. (23 ) 66,50 - 82,09 (11 ) Glasvegas ´Glasvegas´
EU 14. 69,41 - UK : 24. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 83

22. (22 ) 66,51 74,69 (21 ) The Gutter Twins ´Saturnalia´
EU : 16. 68,85 - UK : 41. 67,95 - US : 00000000 - MC : 80

21. (21 ) 66,86 - 73,88 (25 ) Hot Chip ´Made In The Dark´
EU : 36. 65,87 - UK : 00000000 - US : 11. 69,51 - MC : 78

20. (20 ) 66,90 - 74,54 (23 ) MGMT ´Oracular Spectacular´
EU : 09. 70,24 - UK : 22. 70,41 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

19. (19 ) 67,12 - 75,60 (21 ) Black Mountain ´In The Future´
EU : 21. 68,19 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 63. 65,88 - MC : 79

18. (18 ) 67,38 - 76,90 (19 ) The Dodos ´Visiter´
EU : 47. 64,91 - UK : 19. 70,46 - US : 36. 67,50 - MC : 83

17. (16 ) 67,61 - 75,93 (22 ) Sigur Ros ´Med Sud I Eyrum Vid Spilum Endalaust´
EU : 12. 69,89 - UK : 24. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

16. (15 ) 67,66 - 78,47 (17 ) No Age ´Nouns´
EU : 18. 68,56 - UK : 00000000 - US : 20. 68,73 - MC : 79

15. (14 ) 67,87 - 75,96 (23 ) The Last Shadow Puppets ´The Age Of The Understatement´
EU : 04. 71,53 - UK : 79. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

14. (17 ) 67,92 - 79,56 (16 ) The Bug ´London Zoo´
EU : 40. 65,53 - UK : 12. 71,59 - US : 45. 67,10 - MC : 90

13. (13 ) 67,94 - 78,91 (17 ) Elbow ´The Seldom Seen Kid´
EU : 54. 64,42 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

12. (12 ) 68,86 - 79,18 (19 ) Silver Jews ´Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea´
EU : 22. 68,03 - UK : 16. 70,51 - US : 22. 68,53 - MC : 78

11. (11 ) 69,26 - 80,39 (18 ) Erykah Badu ´New Amerykah : Part One (4th World War)´
EU : 17. 68,60 - UK : 33. 69,23 - US : 08. 70,11 - MC : 82

10. (10 ) 69,53 - 81,47 (17 ) Lil Wayne ´Tha Carter III´
EU : 05. 71,06 - UK : 44. 67,65 - US : 15. 69,22 - MC : 82

09. (09 ) 69,77 - 81,19 (18 ) Randy Newman ´Harps & Angels´
EU : 03. 72,12 - UK : 44. 67,65 - US : 46. 67,08 - MC : 85

08. (08 ) 70,63 - 78,89 (26 ) Vampire Weekend ´Vampire Weekend´
EU : 06. 70,97 - UK : 13. 71,43 - US : 12. 69,46 - MC : 82

07. (07 ) 70,89 - 79,94 (24 ) Hercules And Love Affair ´Hercules And Love Affair´
EU : 20. 68,23 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 05. 71,18 - MC : 86

06. (06 ) 71,84 - 80,92 (25 ) The Hold Steady ´Stay Positive´
EU : 11. 70,14 - UK : 05. 75,51 - US : 06. 70,80 - MC : 85

05. (05 ) 71,87 - 81,76 (23 ) Bon Iver ´For Emma, Forver Ago´
EU : 10. 70,19 - UK : 01. 77,55 - US : 21. 68,63 - MC : 89

04. (03 ) 73,15 - 82,40 (26 ) Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds ´Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!´
EU : 08. 70,29 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 02. 74,11 - MC : 87

03. (04 ) 73,30 - 82,62 (26 ) TV On The Radio ´Dear Silence´
EU : 15. 69,16 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 01. 76,16 - MC : 88

02. (02 ) 74,07 - 83,69 (26 ) Portishead ´Third´
EU : 02. 74,48 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 03.73,13 - MC : 85

01. (01 ) 76,56 - 88,06 (24 ) Fleet Foxes ´Fleet Foxes´
EU : 01. 79,83 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 04. 71,96 - MC : 87

THE BUBBLERS :

100.(00 ) 62,95 - 71,93 (15 ) Emiliana Torrini ´Me And Armini´
EU : 87. 62,77 - UK : 93. 65,91 - US : 00000000 - MC : 74

99. (00 ) 62,96 - 70,88 (17 ) Of Montreal ´Skeletal Lamping´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 71

94. (00 ) 63,06 - 69,85 (20 ) Mogwai ´The Hawk Is Howling´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 54. 67,35 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

92. (00 ) 63,09 - 76,70 (10 ) Dungen ´4´
EU : 75. 63,38 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 78

86. (00 ) 63,18 - 75,64 (11 ) The Week That Was ´The Week That Was´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 00000000 - MC : 83

85. (00 ) 63,19 - 72,33 (15 ) The Walkmen ´You & Me´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

73. (00 ) 63,90 - 75,53 (15 ) The Acorn ´Glory Hope Mountain´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

70. (00 ) 63,93 - 77,09 (11 ) El Guincho ´Alegranza´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 82. 65,00 - MC : 00

67. (00 ) 64,01 - 72,11 (18 ) Deerhoof ´Offend Maggie´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 85. 66,18 - US : 41. 67,32 - MC : 81

66. (75 ) 64,02 - 74,43 (14 ) Giant Sand ´proVISIONS´
EU : 49. 64,68 - UK : 00000000 - US : 81. 65,12 - MC : 74

FURTHER EU-POSITIONS :

19. (17 ) 68,51 Ry Cooder ´I, Flathead´
27. (27 ) 67,50 Madrugada ´Madrugada´
28. (28 ) 67,02 The Notwist ´The Devil, You And Me´
31. (31 ) 66,42 Brian Wilson ´That Lucky Old Sun´
32. (32 ) 66,17 Elvis Costello & The Imposters ´Momofuku´
33. (33 ) 66,10 Conor Oberst ´Conor Oberst´
35. (35 ) 65,89 Death Cab For Cutie ´Narrow Stairs´
37. (37 ) 65,77 Willard Grant Conspiracy ´Pilgrim Road´
38. (38 ) 65,70 Tindersticks ´The Hungry Saw´
39. (39 ) 65,61 Ron Sexsmith ´Exit Strategy Of the Soul´
41. (40 ) 65,49 Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan ´Sunday At Devil Dirt´
45. (43 ) 65,00 Sascha Funke ´Mango´
45. (43 ) 65,00 Emmylou Harris ´All I Intended To Be´
48. (46 ) 64,90 Be Your Own Pet ´Get Awkward´
50. (48 ) 64,68 Cass Mccombs ´Dropping The Writ´

FURTHER UK-POSITIONS :

10. (10 ) 72,45 British Sea Power ´Do You Like Rock Music´
11. (11 ) 72,41 Plush ´Fed´
15. (15 ) 70,59 Eliza Carthey ´Dreams Of Breathing Underwater´
16. (16 ) 70,51 Johnny Flynn ´A Larum´
16. (16 ) 70,51 Paul Weller ´22 Dreams´
19. (19 ) 70,46 White Denim ´Workout Holiday´
19. (32 ) 70,46 Metallica ´Death Magnetic´
24. (23 ) 69,39 These New Puritans ´Beat Pyramid´
24. (23 ) 69,39 Mystery Jets ´Twenty One´
29. (28 ) 69,32 Cass McCombs ´Dropping The Writ´
29. (28 ) 69,32 Wild Beasts ´Limbo Panto´
29. (28 ) 69,32 Roots Manuva ´Slime & Reason´
29. (28 ) 69,32 David Holmes ´The Holy Pictures´
33. (32 ) 69,23 DeVotchKa ´A Mad And Faithful Telling´
33. (32 ) 69,23 Teddy Thompson ´A Piece Of What You Need´
36. (36 ) 69,12 Thea Gilmore ´Liejacker´
38. (37 ) 68,37 The Raconteurs ´Consolers Of the Lonely´
41. (40 ) 67,95 Cadence Weapon ´Afterparty Babies´
41. (40 ) 67,95 Sparks ´Exotic Creatures Of The Deep´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Toumani Diabaté ´The Mandé Variations´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Benga ´Diary Of An Afro Warrior´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Fuck Buttons ´Street Horrrsing´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Flight Of The Conchords ´Flight Of The Conchords´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Kasai All Stars ´In The 7th Moon ...´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Lindsey Buckingham ´Gift Of Screws
44. (00 ) 67,65 Bellowhead ´Matachin´

FURTHER US-POSITIONS :

14. (11 ) 69,24 Robyn ´Robyn´ (2005)
15. (12 ) 69,22 Mountain Goats ´Heretic Pride´
19. (16 ) 68,78 Times New Viking ´Rip It Off´
23. (20 ) 68,48 Wire ´Object 47´
24. (21 ) 68,33 Torche ´Meanderthal´
26. (23 ) 68,17 High Places ´High Places´
27. (25 ) 68,06 Shugo Tokumaru ´Exit´
29. (48 ) 67,93 Leila ´Blood, Looms & Blooms´
30. (26 ) 67,72 Ellen Allien ´Sool´
31. (27 ) 67,68 Matmos ´Supreme Balloon´
32. (28 ) 67,65 Destroyer ´Trouble In Dreams´
33. (29 ) 67,56 Kelley Polar ´I Need You To Hold On ...´
33. (29 ) 67,56 Harvey Milk ´Life ... The Best Game In Town´
36. (00 ) 67,50 Women ´Women´
47. (40 ) 66,81 Food For Animals ´Belly´
49. (42 ) 66,67 Beach House ´Devotion´
49. (42 ) 66,67 Health ´Disco´
49. (00 ) 66,67 Jamey Johnson ´That Lonesome Song´
49. (00 ) 66,67 Juana Molina ´Un Dia´

what

djmartian OTM

djmartian says what we're all secretly thinking

i've never seen quote marks quite like those before. they're not the usual weird euro ones are they?

44. (43 ) 67,65 Toumani Diabaté ´The Mandé Variations´

I got to get this one, although I like him with a band better than solo as on this disc.