― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:54 (8 years ago) Permalink
(Found this on http://neumu.net/ )
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 27 November 2004 13:49 (8 years ago) Permalink
if we were trace the Cure's influences, what would they be? the post-punk + krautrock angle seems kinda obvious (Joy Division, etc.) but where did Smith's poppier inclinations come from? I have a hard time imagining what his record collection in the 80s would have consisted of, besides his contemporaries like Siouxsie and Echo & the Bunnymen and whatnot
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Dude's on the record as saying Mogwai are his current favourite band. This doesn't remotely answer the question (although it possibly explains some of the longer songs on their post-Wild Mood Swings albums)
― smexy fishy hawt joey martin (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
Since Mogwai's favourite album after Spiderland is Seventeen Seconds, that isn't that unlikely.
― progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah I'm thinking more like from Faith through Disintegration - the gothier stuff has fairly clear antecedents, but where did something like Caterpillar Girl or Close to You or Love Cats or any number of other tunes come from...?
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― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
like in among the dreary atmospherics and gothic clanging Smith always had a very keenly developed sense for pop melodies, but he never sounded like he was drawing from, say, the Beatles.
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
Gonna suggest Steve Harley and cackle irreverently to myself
― smexy fishy hawt joey martin (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
c'mon Dan surely you have some thoughts on this
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
Nick Drake. Robert Smith got the band's name from the lyrics of "Time Has Told Me" ('a troubled cure / for a troubled mind')
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well, my main thought is that the incredibly poppy strain always existed in their music, giving you songs like "Boys Don't Cry", "Jumping Someone Else's Train", "Object", "It's Not You", "Meathook", "Play For Today", "In Your House", "Secrets", "Primary", "Doubt", etc etc etc well before "Let's Go To Bed" appeared. As to where it came from, I don't specifically know, but they did cover Jimi Hendrix, The Doors and David Bowie.
xp: um, given how much Robert lies in interviews and how the band USED to be called Easycure, I don't know that I believe that
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Syd Barrett as well. At least in terms of hair, eyeliner & poppy quirkiness.
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
I know the band was called the Easy Cure, but even that is meant in the sense of "the cure for a troubled mind"
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
When Malice's vocalist Martin Creasy quit the band, they took the new name Easy Cure in January 1977 from a song written by Tolhurst.
never mind lol
Barrett! of course. can't believe that didn't occur to me.
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
songs about cats, fairytales, fractured psyches.
duh
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
all of that stuff came from the gormenghast novels though
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
except for the parts that came from Wind in the Willows and Shakespeare, right
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
"he never sounded like he was drawing from, say, the Beatles"
Mr Alphabet Says is a good Beatles tribute, surely better than the Dukes of Stratosphear: I'm pretty sure the White Album in particular was a great inspiration for him.
He also cited often Captain Beefheart as an influence and some of the theatrical flair (and the crazy uncle attitude) of Alex Harvey is certainly there.I'm pretty sure is also a big fan of soul and folk music: if I remember correctly he even eulogized Sandy Bull somewhere.
― Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
I just clicked on this thread and Ex-Lion Tamer by Wire came on my ipod, which almost certainly has something to do with Just Like Heaven.
― rake rock reggae (kkvgz), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
While I know Smith has always downplayed the role punk, er, played, the band (at least in its formative years) always sounded to me like they'd been listening to a lot of, yes, Wire and the Buzzcocks, but arranged their songs in some sort of hushed environs, like a crowded flat with people sleeping or a place with grouchy neighbors, so that everything was sort of muted.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'll add also the Only Ones to the Buzzcocks and Wire.Another Girl Another Planet is like the blueprint for many Cure songs.
― Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
i just started w/ Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me and wau. where do I go next from here? Cure virgin.
― aero w. smith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 June 2011 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Go to one of the singles comps (Standing On A Beach/Staring At The Sea, Galore or Greatest Hits) and investigate albums in order of how appealing you find the singles.
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Which Kiss Me songs did you like best? It's a scattershot album.
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― Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like "How Beautiful You Are" a lot
― aero w. smith (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 June 2011 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's kind of anomalousish. But Wish (two albums later) or Head On The Door (one album before) might be fruitful directions to go. Especially Wish.
― underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have pwned (sic), Monday, 20 June 2011 03:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Such a gorgeous sight!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
supoib
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hahahaha
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
A+
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Would read again.
― Matt M., Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
loooooool
― ilxor, Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
So Reeves Gabrels is the newest member of The Cure? YUCK YUCK YUCK.
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2012/05/26/cure-pinkpop-video-setlist-reeves-gabrels/
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 May 2012 16:18 (11 months ago) Permalink
Not the first time he's collaborated with Smith, though: he cowrote "Wrong Number," got Smith in on his solo song "Yesterday's Gone" and they collaborated on the Cogasm song for the Orgazmo soundtrack with Jason Cooper. Weird to think of him as a full Cure member but I don't think we're getting Tin Machine redux here.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 May 2012 17:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
Although now I see the link says all that. Anyway! Let's just say I find it hard to think he'll be allowed to dominate in studio.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 May 2012 17:28 (11 months ago) Permalink
The question is whether they can keep an avant-art guitarist from screwing up the Cure. Reeves seems a real loose rein sort of player, which perhaps explains why no one works with him.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 May 2012 20:45 (11 months ago) Permalink
how come Porl has given them up? i know he flogged off all his gear etc but not why.
― piscesx, Sunday, 27 May 2012 21:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
Painting is his true passion or somesuch.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 May 2012 21:14 (11 months ago) Permalink
one imagines that the molasses-like pace of activity, and restricted creativity, may have worn on Porl/Pearl. also if he's transitioning, as the name change suggests, that would certainly have played into it, if not been the main factor. (or it's equally likely that Robert simply didn't call him before the Vivid shows, as extra guitar would have been surplus, and hasn't since.)
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 28 May 2012 01:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
Isn't Porl married to Robert's sister?
But yeah, Reeves Gabrels. Past collaborations or not, I truly didn't see that one coming. The Cure has always operated in a bizarre way, with the band often having periods where the line-up fluctuates dramatically in between slightly more stable configurations. Since they worked with Ross Robinson on the self-titled album, though, the line-up has fluctuated wildly... and they've only put out one studio album since then! The self-titled album will be EIGHT YEARS OLD next month, and there's been about 4 or 5 line-up changes since!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 28 May 2012 22:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
Not much, but a little extra background:
http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/archives/2012/05/30/reeves-gabrels-joins-the-cure
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:46 (11 months ago) Permalink
First Kevin Shields and I look strangely alike, now Robert's gone for the shorts:
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 July 2012 19:08 (10 months ago) Permalink
Is he wearing ski boots?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
New Rocks
― ¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Saturday, 14 July 2012 19:56 (10 months ago) Permalink
About the above question about influences from years ago, if anyone is still interested in discussing this after probably reading enough interviews to find out...
I've heard him say his biggest influence was Jimi Hendrix, Bowie is a major hero, he said Siouxsie And The Banshees were a major influence that gave him direction, Nick Drake, Captain Beefheart, Slade, Status Quo. He seemed to be even influenced by the dreampop bands that were influenced by The Cure.
Although they covered The Doors, he said he wasnt fond of them.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 14 July 2012 23:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
new interview with RS in WORD mag is brilliant.
― piscesx, Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:57 (10 months ago) Permalink
Clean radio recording of last night's Reading set available for download:
http://summercure2012.blogspot.fr/2012/08/reading-festival-24082012.html
Gabrels actually sounds pretty tame! Or rather, he's playing within the scope of the songs rather than going all 'whee a vibrator!' over them.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 August 2012 17:57 (8 months ago) Permalink
The opening hour of that set was live on BBC3 last night (available on iplayer), I turned over to it by accident and was whisked back to my teens (huge, huge fan from about 15 to 18 years old), they sounded *great*. Like you say Ned, no real madness from Reeves but he was pretty sweet, got a lovely tone on Just Like Heaven etc. The live footage also showed what looked like a crib sheet for keys/chords for different songs etc next to his fx board :)
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:13 (8 months ago) Permalink