2008 Primaries Thread

My in-laws can be moderately forgiven for not having a full grasp of the American media from whence they sometimes get wrongheaded ideas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QaDUDN0G1k

wait, where's Martin Sheen?

what up dixville notch

so this bloated all day orgy is officially on and i already miss the 2 hour thrillride that was iowa.

You know who would love this election? My racist grandfather.

... and they're off!

http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/01/07/will-2008-finish-what-1968-began/

Ah, the Anchoress. She's a curious sort, that one.

The biggest problem with Hillary's campaign is the minute a blogger buys a campaign staffer a drink, they fall over themselves to blab all the petty gossip on how the Clinton campaign is imploding and their manager sucks and how she's probably going to drop out anyway. The press is going to spin NH as a mass Democratic Exodus with Obama in the starring role of Moses, but will gloss over the fact the Clinton campaign was rupturing internally.

But that's how NH goes.

"I don't know, there's just something I don't trust... He is a stranger"

The Madrassa Candidate

I wrote that ^^^ before I saw that the Anchoress has already deployed the same Obama-Moses analogy. Heh.

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I honestly can't conceive of a scenario where the Dems lose this election

You know it's the Democratic Party, right?

I have a sneaky feeling no one but Edwards would have a decent shot to beat McCain in November (and I'm far from sanguine about that matchup).

Yeah, I wouldn't get too confident just yet. xp

(0)_(o)<woah) @ John "Gates of Hell" McCain

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/07/washington/politicsspecial/21400645.JPG

I like her suit!

she looks like willy wonka

There is no
Poll I know
To compare with
The GOP nomination

Any good post-Iowa Super Tuesday states polling data yet? Hillary was leading by like 33 points in NJ as of December and I'm curious how much of the gap Obama closed.

funny hitchens didn't mention any of this: http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/01/obamas_other_life.html

(should i be skeptical of joe klein? never read him much. this does read like something drip-fed from camp O. looks damn good tho!)

I don't know about state-by-state polling data, but Gallup has Clinton & Obama tied at 33% nationally for a survey taken Jan 4th-6th.

Joe Klein is essentially just another 3-card monte dealer.

a dose of healthy eyeroll:

If I truly believed that there was a real chance for change in this election, brothers and sisters, I'd be out there waving my placard. But our imperial system does not require change, merely an executive who can help run it more efficiently. Obama is emerging as that executive. Like Reagan and Bill Clinton, Obama becomes who you want him to be, at least in your own head. That's an important political gift. Bush was and is too polarizing. A system based on lies, theft, alienation, and murder needs a steadier hand. That's what the Obama campaign is all about. He has arrived at the perfect time. The guy may very well pull it off.

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2008/01/crate-expectations.html

Yeah, I wouldn't get too confident just yet.

That puts it mildly.

Can we go back to Kristin Chenowith stepping off of McCain's bus?

dennis perrin should write monologues but maybe stay away from politics

there a fact in there somewhere? "everything is lame and and here is why: because it makes me feel bad!!"

the facts are all around you, grasshopper

That Dennis Perrin post is exactly what's wrong with your brand of smug, masturbate-in-a-dark-corner leftism.

Liberals are anxiously dreaming, insisting that it's their birthright to have a Dem prez elected this year, and when that happens -- and it must happen, do you hear, it MUST HAPPEN -- the universe will begin to right itself. At least, they hope that's the case. Contemporary American liberalism is all about hope. They turn their sad cow eyes to their keepers, trusting that the blades being sharpened aren't intended for their throats.

I mean give me a fucking break. Just because DP is a child doesn't mean we all are.

?? do you think through these nonzings before you write them? the point is: what kind of trust does 'dennis perrin' deserve? does he actually say anything about joe klein, which i asked about? there's nothing in that post that tells me anything about anything, other than dennis perrin is disappointed! so fucking what! beneath every blowhard is a crybaby.

lol xp

the second half of that perrin blog post is reflections on Star Trek, fwiw

I always jerk off with a light on, H2.

What kind of trust do you deserve, "gff"?

yes, "gff," IF THAT IS EVEN YOUR REAL NAME

Why do people even pay attention to Morbs when he "talks" politics?

better me than gabbneb

i mean, marc cooper does the same "constant bile all around" schtick -- he's not fan of democrats. but he's actually an indespensible reporter on a number of topics (immigration, the southwest, NA gambling, LA, etc etc) and he's done shit beside run a crabby blog! like...escape from pinochet

you should read cooper, morbz, you'd like him probably

(xpost) hahahaha okay that's true

paul supporters tell hannity that fox sux.

all they need is pitchforks.

Can we go back to Kristin Chenowith stepping off of McCain's bus?

lols

I subscribe to The Nation, I've read Marc Cooper.

My hope died somewhere around 1984, just pity me. And take note of the date when "MORBZ WUZ RIGHT!" breaks through the clouds. (it might be during the debate where McCain and Obama both vow to renew the USA PATRIOT Act)

should i be skeptical of joe klein?

there was a controversy over a klein column on fisa. i tried figuring out what that was all about, but i was too lazy. glen greenwald called him out though and greenwald is super thorough and even-handed (and long-winded).

did i miss the lols upthread at the o'reilly/secret service scuffle?

that was gold

Joe Klein should teach a master's class on hackdom.

I assume someone already posted a McCain/Wilford Brimley photo. (Wilford is about Chuck Norris' age, anyway...)

Paul supporters chasing Hannity = funny
Paul supporters appearing to be exclusively twenty-something yr old males = equally funny

there was a whole lot of funny going on in that clip.

will Hannity whine about the violation of his Constitutional rights?

Hannity will whine about the violation of his constitutional walk

there was a controversy over a klein column on fisa.

yeah he wrote some column in Time saying the democrats' plan on FISA was to require a court order to wiretap every foreign terrorist, tie law enforcement's hands etc etc ..... the whole thing was wildly RONG and it came out that the information was fed to him by Hoekstra (gop hack)

Klein sucks