― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link
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― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link
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― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago) link
Offtopic: Most people I'd met from India before college were the children of Muslim doctors immigrants. Why?
― Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
no.. those two examples are equivalents. it would be racist to say "all asian women are unattractive"
― don, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
but you'd just be Friends, hawhaw
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link
Everybody ends up being part of that race eventually.
― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 22:17 (twenty years ago) link
Not so!!! I ain't hatin' on you playa!~ It's just a pet peeve, sorry if I overreacted. People throw the racism card around a little too freely, in my opin. We can't help our feelings, although with time and experience, the lucky ones may be able to change them. We can't make ourselves like or love or respect people we don't love, even if it's based on something like ethnicity. It's a shame, but it's not a crime. I think racism is what happens when you act on those feelings to deny people access to things they have an inherent right to, like housing or employment or access to commercial establishments and the like. No one has a right to my love or respect or lust even. It's a shallow person who defines things so categorically, perhaps, I don't find white women attractive, or something like that, sure. But it's not racist. There has to be a distinction between criminal behavior--which I think racism is--and unfortunate narrow-mindedness. That's all I mean. But in the case of someone who says, as you quote, I don't find Asian women attractive, while not necessarily racist, gives one pause to think he might also be racist in behavior. That could well be.
― Skottie, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
Especially when it comes to feelings and attraction... i mean - it's naturally such a subjective thing, anyway (like haw haw the way the girls all have the hots for me just because i'm so pretty etc.) - you'd file a lawsuit if someone doesn't give you a job because you're ugly!!
But I digress, of course, noone has the right to anybody's love or feelings - however, when things become so catagorical like someone saying "i don't find <race> attractive", implying that the race is the deciding factor in attractiveness. Well, of course i wouldn't put this person to jail and i can understand how thoughts like this could come about, it's not even necessarily "right" or "wrong" (love is a feeling), but i would certainly classify it as a racist thought.
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago) link
on a similar vein i'm an utter sexist when it comes to attraction. haha yes, i like the sex bit.
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 09:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:09 (twenty years ago) link
I'm still interested that it seems acceptable to say: "I'm attracted to black men." but it's not acceptable to say: "I don't find black men attractive."
― not telling, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:17 (twenty years ago) link
― not telling, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:40 (twenty years ago) link
it's ok to say "i'm attracted to black men" sure, but probably not to say "i'm ONLY attracted to black men".
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:55 (twenty years ago) link
Pip pip!
― not telling, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:56 (twenty years ago) link
xpost
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago) link
― not telling, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:59 (twenty years ago) link
see my post earlier. it is racist to only be attracted to one race, but it's not something that would get you into jail.
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 11:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 11:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 11:12 (twenty years ago) link
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― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 11:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
But then consider people like Strom Thurman, an institutional racist who found black people attractive, fucked them, and had kids with them. Then as legislator tried to fuck them again metaphorically. Or J. Edgar Hoover who was a notorious persecutor of gays and then was of course gay himself.
No, I'm sorry, I think there has to be a very tight definition. You have a right to a job but no right to be thought of as attractive.
― Skottie, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Skottie, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 14:10 (twenty years ago) link
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― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago) link
― the, Monday, 19 April 2004 05:34 (twenty years ago) link
Why would anyone find a certain 'race' unattractive? All of them seem to have plenty of attractive people in my experience. I wish there weren't so many goddamn white people everywhere here though, ya know.
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 19 April 2004 06:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 19 April 2004 07:42 (twenty years ago) link
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― The Papadom Girls (Dan Perry), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link