"the greatest four-record run in rock history"

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Dubnobasswithmyheadman ---> A Hundred Days Off

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Milk and Scissors ---> Twilight

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The Curtain Hits the Cast ---> Trust

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

>Originally only 6 songs (on 2 x 7"ers iirc) totalling less than 20 minutes. The other 5 tracks on the album version that's now about were originally the A- and B-sides of various other singles released around the same time.<

Well, that's not an EP (unless, like I said, all those odds and sods added up to less than 25 minutes). But I can see how it wouldn't count (like how Costello's *Taking Liberties,* say, wouldn't count.)

And lots of white bands on this thread don't have guitars as noisy as Funkadelic either, Shakey. I mean, I like CCR better than Stevie myself, but "Superstition" and "Living for the City" sure rock as hard as anything CCR (or the Beatles or Byrds etc) did to my ears.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Being There--->A Ghost Is Born

hehe

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

CCR-check!
JA-check!
Zep-check!
VU-check!
Pavement?-not a chance...done @ WZ,BtC just don't cut it.
SY-go w/ the Confusion-Daydream, then-check!
hell, i'd throw the Butthole Surfers in there- Brown Reason to Live>>>Hairway to Steven (tho, i guess there are EP's in there...)
Beck? go old to new...
White Stripes??? surely, you jest.

eedd, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

A question and a comment:

Why is that people are disqualifying Stevie Wonder when the impetus for this thread was the Talking Heads? Mentalists.

Stewart, Strictly Personal is awesome and far superior to Mirror Man. Hell, I like it better than Safe As Milk!

And anyway Prince wins everything. Mentalists.

J (Jay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

oh chuck, let's not go down this "what is rock" road... I'm sorry I brought it up (I mean, I wouldn't call the Incredible String Band rock either, but who cares)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

has their ever been a band called The Reinforcement?

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

SO MUCH TO ARGUE WITH!
-I really like Strictly Personal, but I may be the only Beefhart fan in the world to LIKE the production on that one...
-The Who never put out an album without a clunker, let alone a four-album run.
-Bossa Nova and Trompe Le Monde, while good albums, can't seriously stand as part of a run of four, if the implicit criteria is consistent high quality.
-Amnesiac, as noted above, is a crap album. You have to personally abdicate any sense of taste to even argue that one into the same league as The Bends, OK Computer or Kid A. The only way it's a success is if Radiohead set out to make a boring, bland album full of whining.
-The Kinks' Something Else just can't stand up next to Village Green or Face To Face, and much as I love Lola, neither can it.

I'm sure there's an REM partisan waiting to make his bid. What about Kraftwerk? They kinda count as rock. Or Motorhead (who definitely do)?

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Something Else is awesome.

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

All Day Music ---> The World Is A Ghetto ---> Deliver the Word ---> Why Can't We Be Friends?

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

The only songs I listen to with any regularity off of Something Else are David Brooks and Waterloo Sunset. While those two may be two of the best songs that the Davies ever did, the rest of the album is just a little too poncy for my tastes (and, again, can't stand up next to albums on either side of it).

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

".... if the implicit criteria is consistent high quality."

I agree with pretty much everything you say (except wrt Radiohead - personally I think Amnesiac is the best album they've ever done!) however there's a big difference between consistent high quality and consistently high quality, which is what you seem to be demanding.

Bossa Nova and Trompe Le Monde may not be as good as Surfer Rosa and Doolittle; and Something Else and Lola may not be as good as Village Green or Face To Face; but they're still extremely good albums.

If consistently high quality is the criteria, then I'd have to start by taking issue with the suggestion that would then be inherent in the premise of the thread that More Songs About Buildings And Food is as good as '77, Fear Of Music Or Remain In Light - 'cos it just ain't!

"I'm sure there's an REM partisan waiting to make his bid. What about Kraftwerk? They kinda count as rock. Or Motorhead (who definitely do)?"

I already done dat.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

REM that is.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I have an affection for Something Else because it was my first real Kinks album. IT IS a classic, albeit not at "Village Green" level. Still, "Death of A Clown" "Two Sisters" "Harry Rag" "Lazy Old Sun"...

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Who said EPs don't count? I'll take a solid EP over a mediocre LP any day of the week.

I second Sabbath, Velvets, and...

Brian Eno: Here Come the Warm Jets, Taking Tiger Mountain, Another Green Day, Before and After Science (arguably Discreet Music is somewhere in the middle there screwing things up)

Misfits: Static Age, 12 Hits From Hell, Walk Among Us, Earth A.D.
(arguably one of the most underappreciated runs in punk rock history)

RZA (arguably the architect of these releases, which came out over the course of two years): Wu Tang's Enter the 36 Chambers, Method Man's Tical, ODB's Return To The 36 Chambers, Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx..., GZA's Liquid Swords (arguably, 5 records)

Wire: Pink Flag, Chairs Missing, 154 (arguably, only 3)

Minutemen: The Punch Line, What Makes A Man Start Fires, Howl and Buzz Under The Influence of Heat, Double Nickel on the Dimes (arguably)

Stooges: The Stooges, Fun House, Raw Power, Metallic KO (argh)

Yeah, this is fun...

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

...at putting rock fans to sleep. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, those are four bad covers.

werner t., Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"Wow, those are four bad covers."

yeah, you should HEAR the albums...

*rimshot*

eedd, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

BobDylan - 4 of the early-ish ones ...

Has Dylan ever done 4 really great records in a row?

You could make a case for three, with "Subterranean Homesick Blues"-"Blonde On Blonde" and "Planet Waves"-"Desire", but four? Not really.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Zappa almost has a decent run with his early stuff. Freak Out! > Absolutely Free > We're Only In It For The Money is spoiled by Lumpy Gravy, and Uncle Meat is still a year after WOITFTM.

As far as the last ten years, may I submit:
Queens of the Stone Age > R > Songs for the Deaf > Lullabies to Paralyze

The most recent one is far from their best, but I think it's a very admirable run.

digestion (digestion), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Magical Mystery Tour is a compilation, which therefore makes it ineligible.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

al green: gets next to you > let's stay together > i'm still in love with you > call me

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel much better about the Heads' run after reading all the way through the thread than I did at first. If that's the standard, though, I think you have to consider REM, too. Nominating Pavement is time-bound nonsense. And why did it take so long to come up with Eno?

The other archetype is when you throw a sprawling, inconsistent double album in the mix eg

Fleetwood Mac > Rumors > Tusk > Mirage

If Tusk had been a single LP we'd be going for it like CCR (who had some filler in there, people).

mitya can't remember his frigging password, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

"Help" to "Sgt. Pepper" is a really strong succession anyway, with "Help" being the slightly weaker one.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

No one's mentioned them yet, so I'll cast a vote for some permutation of the Jefferson Airplane's first five studio albums. I'd take the first four (Takes Off - Crown of Creation), someone else might say #2 (Surrealistic Pillow) through #5 (Volunteers).

merritt ranew (merritt), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I admit each CCR album has at least one or two filler tracks - but as albums, one after the other, they are all really amazingly consistent. Each of the four is practically interchangeable with the others in terms of overall quality (tho my personal fave is Green River). And, in addition to the non-single gems (Tombstone Shadow, Siniser Purpose, Crosstie Walker, Penthouse Pauper, etc.), even their tossed off r&b instrumentals and covers can be surprisingly great.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Sleater-Kinney must be in the discussion. Call the Doctor--Dig Me Out--The Hot Rock--All Hands on the Bad One is probably their best 4 album run, but both One Beat and The Woods are better than Bad One.

I am shocked, shocked at all the negativity towards Hail To The Thief, that's my favorite album of theirs by far.

The Stones still win, but if we count stuff that was heard on bootleg first, then you have to give it up for Dylan: Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61, Blonde on Blonde, The Basement Tapes

What about Gram Parsons? Sweetheart of the Rodeo/Gilded Palace/GP/Grevious Angel is a pretty impressive run.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

is canon this list anywhere?

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Can on, rather

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

5th band nominated. (a good choice, I think)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know about REM:

murmur (masterpiece)
reckoning (a bit rushed)
fables (brilliant, the best of the lot)
life's rich... (very good)
document (very good)
green (very good)

so it would have to be fables -> green

the rest is not worth mentioning (!)

AET, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll third or whatever the first four REM albums (as well as Fables being best of the lot). Throw "Chronic Town" and the first half of Document in therw and that's four and two sides. These are good too (Beatles best, Neil second, Zep third, Stones fourth): CCR, Zep, Dylan, Velvets, Stones, The Who, Kinks, first four Can, Eno. At the risk of derision, I'll add Floyd: Dark Side, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall. That's a great run. Yes almost makes it--Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge; but Tales is horrible. If only they'd put out Relayer first.

Uncle Nacho, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

y'all need to stop hatin.

Dark Side Of The Moon
Wish You Were Here
Animals
The Wall

...or did I miss something?

I'll second (fifth?) REM, along with Dinosaur Jr - Dinosaur - Green Mind

viborgu, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

For Pink Floyd, I'd much, much rather have the first four than any set that included The Wall.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

The Bowie run above should read: Station to Station-Low-Heroes-Lodger--Scary Monsters ist not so gut. Stones 68-72, VU, CCR, Stevie Wonder, Sabbath first four, Roxy Music For Your Pleasure through Siren--all good candidates Also, what Dylan record precedes the holy trinity of 65-66 releases? If Freewheelin', done; If Another Side, maybe not. Pavement? Brighten the Corners kills the four-peat

douglas eklund (skolle), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

For my files, what is the general consensus about Elvis Costello's best 4 album period. Trust is my overall favorite, so I would nominate This Year's Model--Armed Forces--Get Happy--Trust.

Would other people choose My Aim Is True instead of Trust?

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

If Metal Circus doesn't count, and it should, then Everything Falls Apart is still > Candy Apple Grey... But yeah, first band that came to mind.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I kinda can't believe it took this long for Costello to get mentioned, although it didn't occur to me either until you mentioned him. I'd go for Aim over Trust, but then Aim is a sentimental favorite and I haven't had Trust for very long.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I always remember Candy Apple Grey as the album that stopped me from getting into Husker Du when they were still around. I only got Zen Arcade because it was talked about enough here.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooh, Roxy Music! I like the sound of that.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't Buy A Thrill, Countdown to Ecstasy, Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied.

greg k, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

dammit another one i can't believe i didn't think of already! I'd probably do Countdown >>>> Royal Scam, though.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

>can't believe it took this long for Costello to get mentioned,<

Maybe because it didn't? Read, like, the first post (and my answer a few posts down)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Propeller --> Vampire On Titus --> Bee Thousand --> Alien Lanes

me, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

my bad, dude (xp)

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

The Rod Stewart Album, Gasoline Alley, Every Picture Tells a Story, Never a Dull Moment: one brilliant, the other three very good.

merritt ranew (merritt), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

(x-post)

How about The Rod Stewart Album, Gasoline Alley, Every Picture Tells A Story and Never A Dull Moment?

For the past ten (eleven, actually...) years, I'd submit the Blue Album, Pinkerton, the Green Album and Maladroit.

John Fredland (jfredland), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link


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