best Elvis Costello album of the '80s

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but basically i could easily just get by on the first three elvis records and not really care too much about the others

Yeah I sort of feel like this most days to be honest - those first two especially are really great records though.

Gavin in Leeds, Sunday, 7 February 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 8 February 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

but basically i could easily just get by on the first three elvis records and not really care too much about the others

Yeah I sort of feel like this most days to be honest - those first two especially are really great records though.

I hear this all the time. But tbh, I could easily get by without My Aim Is True, and I listen to When I Was Cruel, All This Useless Beauty and Brutal Youth - not to mention most of these 80s albums - more than Armed Forces. Not saying they're better, but my solar system includes post-70s EC.

Did you say you were going to mangle the light? (staggerlee), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i think even among the completist diehards it's tough to find anyone whose 2 or 3 favorite EC records aren't some combination of Aim/Model/Armed, but i think there's still a lot to like and love in the 20-something records that followed, spotty as they usually are. i kinda wanna do 90s and 00s polls too, but i feel like they'd be a lot less lively than even this one. maybe one post-80s poll?

Robert Altbro (some dude), Monday, 8 February 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

One post-80s poll should do fine. Much tougher competition between Brutal Youth and When I Was Cruel than between the latter and, say, Momofuku. I'm a hardcore EC-ophile and even I haven't bought the last few records.

Did you say you were going to mangle the light? (staggerlee), Monday, 8 February 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

EC has recorded three records in the time it took me to type this sentence.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

it's funny how in just this list of records you can see his productivity finally start to slow down -- 6 albums in the first half of the decade and 3 in the second

Robert Altbro (some dude), Monday, 8 February 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Trust by a mile.

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surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 8 February 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

1. Get Happy!! (by a whisker)
2. Trust (by an even smaller whisker)
3. Imperial Bedroom
4. Blood and Chocolate
5. King of America
...the rest

the end times are coming, but they're just the beginning (WmC), Monday, 8 February 2010 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Trust, then B&C, then KoA, then GH!!, then Boredom.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Monday, 8 February 2010 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I played PTC the most at the time, but my vote would be GH followed by GCW.

I know.... just I saw EC&A, with the Pogues in support (5 hour gig!) and it was all fairly amazing. So, I can hear the songs that GCW were supposed to be.

Mark G, Monday, 8 February 2010 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Imperial Bedroom, Blood and Chocolate, Get Happy!!, Trust, King of America (predominantly for Suit of Lights), Spike (about which I remember nothing other than God's Comic and Veronica), everything else, which even during my most obsessive phase (about a six month period when I was seventeen and consumed pretty much everything, including all the nineties records and everything up through The Delivery Man) I never really got through.

rope (lloydwabbitt), Monday, 8 February 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

not surprising, I guess...it's interesting to me how Trust seems super well regarded, both around here and more or less in general, but when I was in high school and getting into EC I never got any impression of it being essential...I bought the first 4 albums in order, but after that started skipping forward to various late 80s/90s releases and didn't hear Trust until much more recently (the generic title and lousy cover art probably didn't help), so it's still kinda growing on me.

goodness gracious great walls o gina (some dude), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

thought Trust was average - Get Happy much more off the cuff (more immediate) - but perhaps that means it doesn't wear well for some - for me it's his 3rd best record --

jimmy_chop, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

None of Trust's singles were big or characteristically Costello like "Pump It Up" or "Accidents Will Happen," and the album is often a frustrating miscellany (I have no time for "Lovers Walk" or "Luxembourg"), but I like the crumbling of the Costello edifice on tracks that on first listen sound like retreads: "Different Finger," "White Knuckles," "Watch Your Step." The music is guarded and tight, his vocals still surly, as he admits to even darker shit that the lacquered tunes of Trust's predecessors hid.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

generic title and lousy cover art

i love both the title -- "trust" being both an essential elvis subject and a potential double entendre -- and the album art, including but not limited to the cover shot.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Trust was the first Costello album I really loved -- "Lover's Walk," "Clubland", "New Lace Sleeves," "Strict Time" ... those are some of my fave Costello songs of all time ....

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Side 1 of Trust is the peak of his career

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

His best singing, their best playing. No contest.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i listened to imperial bedroom last night and still feel confident in my vote...that album is so crazy, so poncey

"man out of time" is just lovely....beyond belief, so many good songs

the dong remains the same (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i mean i look at this list of albums and think the dude had a pretty fucking good 80s! Nine albums and not a bad once in the bunch -- Goodbye Cruel World come the closest to being bad, but as I said upthread, it's not that bad, maybe just bad by Costello's standards at the time ... Glad someone voted for Almost Blue -- I think that's a nice record.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

not a bad *one*

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Goodbye Cruel World is bad, full stop.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

and it's not the only one.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't believe trust won this over get happy or blood and chocolate (or king of america for that matter)

akm, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, ok maybe it's bad ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

GCW really IS a jump-the-shark moment insofar as even the good songs are nothing you haven't heard before, arranged as if he didn't give a damn.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

it took a little while for KoA to sink in for me, but i'm surprised it's not more highly regarded. not a duff cut on it.
i'm surprised trust won, in my short time e-here on ilm, it seems rare to me that the best album wins a poll. not taking taste into account, it seems there are usu. other considerations(i.e.being anti-canonical for the sake of it) people make when voting.

pobrecito (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

what exactly happened w/ Goodbye Cruel World anyway, I read that he 'announced his retirement' before the album was even released and obviously took a couple years before releasing the next album, but it seems like everything about it was designed for failure before it was even out, even with it coming on the heels of one of his biggest singles.

Busty Oralizer (some dude), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

It was an odd situation:

That gig I mentiones, he announced his new single "I hope you're happy now" and that they were going into the studio that weekend to record it.

It didn't appear, and wasn't a single, until GCW a year later.

By then, most of the tracks were credited to Declan Patrick Alouicious McManus, apart from a couple which were to Elvis COstello.

I'm guessing 'personal issues'

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 08:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xxpost

The duff cut on King of America is the cover of "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood." That's a really really unpleasant-to-listen-to vocal, to my ears, and instrumentally I don't think it's a winner, either.

Jouster, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link

one of that record's rare enjoyable moments imo

thomp, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 09:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, I nearly forgot.

I went into London for the grand opening of Tower Records' midnight release of "Spike, the beloved entertainer" and got mine signed by the man himself (and exchanged a few words)..

We were all queued up Regent Street, when Elvis and Nick Lowe crossed the street while strumming "Leave my kitten alone" and some other song I forget just now (I think it was his single at the time).

Loads of press photos were taken, and I was right at Elvis' left side, but when the photos were in the paper, I was cropped out. So was Nick Lowe, so hey.

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link

listening to Get Happy!!...man, this record is tops, the bass is ridiculous, kinda can't believe I didn't vote for it but I'm glad I went with my instinct that B&C needed it more.

i think part of what weirds me out about Trust is it's one of his only albums from that period that has no 'theme' or genre pastiche going on, it's just the Attractions at the top of their game doing a new wave album. in the liner notes EC almost sounds embarrassed about parts of songs being inspired by contemporaries like the Pretenders or the Police instead of old Bacharach/George Jones/Motown records or whatever.

Busty Oralizer (some dude), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link

probably a bit harsh on king of america. but the opening line of that record presents the most horrible evidence that the album you are about to listen to has ambitions that exceed its grasp. i think the divide between ppl who like 'get happy' and ppl who like 'trust' is whether they value er conceptual thoroughness above thoroughness of craft maybe? like there'd be, probably, a similar thing if we did his worst record, between ppl whose least favorite is a lazy attractions retread and whose least favorite is a poor concept

thomp, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

think the divide between ppl who like 'get happy' and ppl who like 'trust' is whether they value er conceptual thoroughness above thoroughness of craft maybe?

Why are the two mutually exclusive? EC has always collapsed the two.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I like Get Happy!. My rankings:

Trust
Get Happy
King of America
Blood & Chocolate

the rest

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

From a 2002 RS interview:

Q: My favorite album is Trust. I never convince anyone to agree with me.

A: Oh, that's a good record. I think it has one of the greatest Attractions performances, "New Lace Sleeves." Neil LaBute, who's making a film at the moment, wants to use "Lovers Walk."

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

always liked this video - helped me appreciate his cover:
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2016579/v2140616

Paul, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe it was just growing up reading the LA Times - E.C. was second only to Springsteen in Hilburn's canon - but it seemed to me like Imperial Bedroom, at the time, was being lauded as The Masterpiece

I'm a Taking Liberties fan myself

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post
that's "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" by the way

Paul, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

probably a bit harsh on king of america...has ambitions that exceed its grasp

this is a minority view but one I concur w/. giving this alb a mixed-to-neg review when it came out nearly got me drummed out of the guild.

the mighty the mighty BOHANNON (m coleman), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

KOA's great songs have for a long time carried the weight of its dross, on which everyone seems to agree ("Glitter Gulch," "The Poisoned Rose," "Eisenhower Blues," the Animals cover).

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

"Stalin Malone" they didn't even bother to sing the words over the tune!

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I listened to both KOA and IB last week and while they both have songs I love (mainly "I'll Wear It Proudly" and "Beyond Belief") they both have a lot problems for me and I'm glad to see them right in the middle of these poll results.

some dude, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

The duff cut on King of America is the cover of "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood."

there's a live solo version of this on some promo that is pretty awesome

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that the one where they all sing the riff? I remember hearing that on the radio a long, long time ago.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

it took a little while for KoA to sink in for me, but i'm surprised it's not more highly regarded. not a duff cut on it. Falts. About half duff, to my ears. Lord Sotosyn nails it above, I think. As a huge wanking EC fanboy, I'm always amazed how very much people's mileage varies with him. I'm all, "wottayamean you don't like 'Battered Old Bird'?!" and am an Imperial Breadloom fan and have never fallen heels-up for Trust. YMMV, indeed.

Hardcore Homecare (staggerlee), Friday, 12 February 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Punch the Clock (1983) 2

a seriously underrated album -- his last great one, i think (in all seriousness, no challops).

i still would've voted for get happy!!, though.

Jonsi's on a vacation far away (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link


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