2008 Primaries Thread

omarobama bradley

apparently obama in a decent baller himself

"i too was seduced by jfk" - hillary staffer on the radio

if hilary people are conceding obama is jfk like then its over for her

it seems like today is the day the media decided this shit is over

artdamages you're right and i'm sorry and no fucking duh it's complicated URGE TO KILL RISING uh again i'm sorry.

its cool

i happened to be thinking about the question of obama, his race, his candidacy, and the possibility of his presidency, and I couldn't help but wonder -- and this is optimistic -- that an obama presidency could prove to be a profound touchstone for a conversation about race on a scale that this country hasn't seen since the civil rights era. whether people describe him as african-american, as 'acceptably black,' as multiracial, or however, everyone is going to have an opinion on the subject, and his candidacy is not going pass unremarked on this issue.

i just hope the process is more productive than ilx racism threads.

A survey taken late last month for CBS found that nearly 40% of black voters in South Carolina believed the country was not "ready to elect a black president," compared with 34% of whites -- a sentiment that Obama aides viewed as a far greater impediment to his election than flat-out racism among those who would never vote for him anyway.

two out of three of my black coworkers I interact with on a daily basis were retreading the "gonna get shot" narrative angle the morning after iowa

retreading the "gonna get shot" narrative

this had occurred to me, too ;_;

deej, source?

LA times
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=4782f269af5ec95f&ei=GNuCR5nJDYPa-wGO1KH3Cw&url=http%3A//www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obama7jan07%2C1%2C5201575.story%3Fcoll%3Dla-politics-campaign&cid=1125957482

i just hope the process is more productive than ilx racism threads.

dear obama,
hollertronix c/d?
also, u want to rock y/n?
thx!

p.s.
kill whitey?

Do you think this is also affecting Democrats voting for Obama?

Maybe in a few cases - I don't really think this dynamic is responsible for a large percentage of Obama support from either side though.

lol, Hillary promises to abolish the FAFSA

she's actually doing pretty well in full-throated mode in this rally i'm watching. it helps that she isn't at the royal distance from the audience.

lol, "we should even have a government blogging team"

by tomorrow morning, she'll be smoking weed and playing Wii

<i>"we should even have a government blogging team"</i>

Please tell me that's not a real quote.

Ok, "that is not a real quote."

the blogging team is not part of a government transparency initiative

bill and chelsea do not look like deer in headlights standing behind her

I think the blog post about "acceptable blackness" is a LITTLE bit oversimplifying things. I mean it's true to an extent, but I don't buy this idea that "the racists" will vote for him to make themselves feel better, as though racists were a monolithic voting block. I'm sure the "acceptable blackness" factor will be one of many affecting voters with varying degrees of racism and/or white guilt, but it's not like half of America is going to go "OMG FINALLY A COMPLETELY WHITEWASHED BLACK GUY WITH NO TRADITIONALLY BLACK CHARACTERISTICS DON'T EVEN TELL ME ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT HIM!"

Also I think the most racist voters are more likely to come up with some excuse like, "I just don't like the looks of him," or "I just don't trust him" -- especially with the added *secret muslim* story and the international past.

lololol, WMUR evening news excerpts interview with Gravel in which he complains about campaigns busing in supporters from New York, then reports that he went to Exeter the day before "and told students there to use marijuana instead of alcohol" (there goes the morbs vote!)

Romney campaign commercial forecasts more change in the next ten years than in the last ten decades - scariest shit i've ever heard

this really is the greatest show on earth.

Hurting OTM. Can't wait to hear my grandfather's opinion on this

Dude Barack basically promised to abolish the FAFSA on his site:

Obama will streamline the financial aid process by eliminating the current federal financial aid application and enabling families to apply simply by checking a box on their tax form, authorizing their tax information to be used, and eliminating the need for a separate application.

My father-in-law (in thick Israeli accent): "I don't know, there's just something I don't trust... He is a stranger"

My in-laws can be moderately forgiven for not having a full grasp of the American media from whence they sometimes get wrongheaded ideas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QaDUDN0G1k

wait, where's Martin Sheen?

what up dixville notch

so this bloated all day orgy is officially on and i already miss the 2 hour thrillride that was iowa.

You know who would love this election? My racist grandfather.

... and they're off!

http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/01/07/will-2008-finish-what-1968-began/

Ah, the Anchoress. She's a curious sort, that one.

The biggest problem with Hillary's campaign is the minute a blogger buys a campaign staffer a drink, they fall over themselves to blab all the petty gossip on how the Clinton campaign is imploding and their manager sucks and how she's probably going to drop out anyway. The press is going to spin NH as a mass Democratic Exodus with Obama in the starring role of Moses, but will gloss over the fact the Clinton campaign was rupturing internally.

But that's how NH goes.

"I don't know, there's just something I don't trust... He is a stranger"

The Madrassa Candidate

I wrote that ^^^ before I saw that the Anchoress has already deployed the same Obama-Moses analogy. Heh.

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I honestly can't conceive of a scenario where the Dems lose this election

You know it's the Democratic Party, right?

I have a sneaky feeling no one but Edwards would have a decent shot to beat McCain in November (and I'm far from sanguine about that matchup).

Yeah, I wouldn't get too confident just yet. xp

(0)_(o)<woah) @ John "Gates of Hell" McCain

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/07/washington/politicsspecial/21400645.JPG

I like her suit!

she looks like willy wonka

There is no
Poll I know
To compare with
The GOP nomination

Any good post-Iowa Super Tuesday states polling data yet? Hillary was leading by like 33 points in NJ as of December and I'm curious how much of the gap Obama closed.

funny hitchens didn't mention any of this: http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/01/obamas_other_life.html

(should i be skeptical of joe klein? never read him much. this does read like something drip-fed from camp O. looks damn good tho!)

I don't know about state-by-state polling data, but Gallup has Clinton & Obama tied at 33% nationally for a survey taken Jan 4th-6th.