Yo P&J, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but ILX had the greatest 2009 poll of all time! All time! (2009 ILX Trax Poll Results: TOP TEN TODAY)

of course 'you belong with me' is the sister of 'baby just say yes'. It's her goddamn daydreaming, she'll have it her way. but when she actually gets the guy he's an asshole, or she's bored because he isn't an asshole. which rings just as true.

good list guys. i've given that taylor song a fair shake but it's kind of a snooze unless you dig some really specific things in music that i don't really care about and even then

But if you like 20 year olds who pretend they are 16 year olds who act like they're 13 year olds then that's cool for you. I simply don't get the appeal.

this is otm

looool i see i couldn't have affected the results in any way

haha 4 real - ilm is so weird 2 me

i woulda voted imma star if i had done trax!

I have to ask -- who knew girls in high school that didn't drop passive aggressive insults towards other girls? it's part and parsel of the whole high school package. the phrase 'you belong with me' is so perfect because it admits the irrationality of it all: she's jealous, she throws insults behind his/her back, she scribbles in her diary 'mister, you belong with ME!'. it's true, it rings true, and it's beautiful even if it isn't necessarily right that she ends up with the guy and he may lead a giving relationship with the cheerleader.

― abcfsk, Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:23 PM (7 seconds ago)

otm, i mean lol @ boring rockist lyrics transfixion in the first place but lol more @ ppl so misanthropic and proud of themselves for being grey that they're categorically against songs written by teenagers that are ostensibly about...being a teenager

also ILM needs to school itself in the ways of Desire's Don't Call.

i thought i voted for Jeremih AND tonetta and did not; they did both get album nods.
Joker and Vistoso Bosses SO CLOSE

what i learned from this thread is that soft circle released something this year, damn hisham, learn to publicize

also the "20 yr old acting like a 16 yr old" thing just isn't accurate - she's 20 now but the album was released in 2008 so she probably would have written these songs when she was 16-18.

i'm kinda surprised "birthday sex" didn't get close, i swear it was the r&b thread's consensus single of the year at one point

But if you like 20 year olds who pretend they are 16 year olds who act like they're 13 year olds then that's cool for you. I simply don't get the appeal.

a) A 20 year old who wrote a song when she was c. 18 about being c. 16 makes perfect sense to me. That's hardly

b) "if you like 20 year olds who pretend they are 16 year olds who act like they're 13 year olds then"... you like pop music.

ha ha xpost with Lex, and I meant to say "that's hardly self-infantilising IMO".

sade - soldier of love (6 votes, 81.5 points)
^^

I would have voted for this but it feels like a 2010 single. Unfortunately it won't achieve Rehab/The Fear ubiquity

kind of astonished that you guys read the storyline in 'u belong' so very seriously; I bet you think Jay Z is selling crack too.
It's not about the theme! Her lyrics are well written, she's a great voice and she's totally present but the topics are crazy mundane and boring. I think the positives outweigh the negatives in net.

There is absolutely nothing self-aware about You Belong With Me.

xpost I'm not fixated with lyrics but if we are lauding her for being a great songwriter then the topic is up for grabs. Taylor's songs are the equivalent of court blotters, detailed and maybe they "capture" high school but there's no insight or depth to it.

also, YBWM is clearly taylor at her most...i guess self-consciously teenage and giddy; this is hardly a persona she maintains across all her songs, plenty of which are really wise-beyond-her-years and have, as jordan pointed out elsewhere, a real big-sisterly quality to them

lex and Tim so otm about the ridiculous self-infantilising point, but even i'm not sure how i feel about her next single being called "today was a fairytale"

I would have voted for this but it feels like a 2010 single. Unfortunately it won't achieve Rehab/The Fear ubiquity

i voted it - it was released in dec tho, right? anyway i think the sade contingent would be wise to focus their efforts on the 2010 albums poll

i guess my thing is that her being a great songwriter is the only thing we can legit laud her for? her arrangements are bland and her voice is, um, functional at best. so yeah in order to enjoy her i would have to close-read all these songs.

I'm going to persevere with Taylor out of respect for democracy, but as of now I utterly don't get it - there's nothing there

which is fine but uh it's not really my thing

k3vin we don't say "rockist" when we have company over

well to me songwriting =/= lyrics, but i think theyre plenty verisimilar and certainly don't get in the way for me

xps

een: that's a simple and fairly weak song but also just a soundtrack single. next album's gonna be the test for her progression

YBWM has mad amazing fills and stuff fwiw, especially the one-note bassline before the last chorus

ok that's very reassuring i want to be able to sail on the taylor boat forever

i still have huge stylistic barriers with any and all pop-country, but damn if the "i remember you/ driving to my house/ in the middle of the night" section isn't some intense shit

ok wait who was the other person who voted for Holy Ghost?

yeah songwriting =/= lyrics but with taylor i'm really being given a limited amount of things to latch onto because i can't be like "well damn that is one fantastic contemporary country production!"

for the record I am the most unabashed dumb popist here so don't drop the R-bomb on me.

I'm not going to argue about Taylor, mainly because I have only heard three of her songs in my life.

infantile lyrics /= bad songwriting. It's a character and she inhabits it reasonably and honestly. I would also like to see her branch out into more sympathetic territory but I'm amazed that she finds a way to so clearly speak to me about attitudes and views that I would otherwise find vapid if they weren't so damn genuine and articulate.

musically it took me A LOT of exposure to come around on Taylor, but I'll fight for her now. Fearless is a slow burner of an album.

"love story" is the most amazingly constructed song -- the last chorus is suuuch a rush

lol who voted for single ladies?

in re YBWM i much prefer the "country pop" production on the album to the "rock" production on the mainstream-radio single. there's not much difference, but i like the little bit of banjo.

is the thread for posting ballots running yet?

hey musically, if you get a chance, can you email me my ballot back?

BrokeNCYDE - Freaxx (1 votes, 19 points)

XD

what i learned from this thread is that soft circle released something this year, damn hisham, learn to publicize

― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:29 PM (10 minutes ago)

XD

They Belong To You: Your ILM 2009 Track of the Year Ballots

ha, good title

"you belong with me" was also the highest-scoring song on the jukebox last year; can't really put it much better than we did then http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=596

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 5:20 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

not a fan but those do shed some light. (Kogan and Bradley excluded for overreaching and making me want to vomit.)

having to listen to 'you belong with me' in a kinda critical way over and over again bcz of the singles jukebox end-of-year meltdown made me get really irritated by the taylor persona precisely cos i started thinking 'but what about dude's girlfriend - she's got her own music taste and doesn't laugh at his jokes! that's pretty cool! i like her better!'

i wuv taylor, i like how she can make me like her when she's basically singing the female version of the classic "nice guy" complaint, but... after a while it started to wear.

Oh yeah, if it's not too much trouble, I'd like to have my ballot emailed back to me (including albums, if they don't come together).

Thanks!

Email me if you want your ballot, I'll send them tonight

is it just musically at gmail.com?

I'll get that Grooveshark playlist updated when there's time, but I'm just back from seeing JLS and am on a deadline for the review. Great list, thank you musically!

the popular girls look like taylor swift and like taylor swift's music, the nerdy girls don't and don't. i mean, the scenario is cinematic and therefore true, but it's basically backwards.

in summary:
50 -- Royksopp feat Robyn - The Girl and the Robot (8 votes, 88 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (380 in P&J, 68 in p4k)
49 -- Kid Cudi – Day ‘n’ Nite (10 votes, 88 points) (18 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
48 -- Animal Collective - Summertime Clothes (8 votes, 88.5 points) (50 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
47 -- Electrik Red - So Good (7 votes, 90 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (DNP in P&J, DNP in p4k)
46 -- Memory Tapes - Bicycle (7 votes, 95 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (238 in P&J, 46 in p4k)
45 -- The Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Hysteric (8 votes, 95.5 points) (237 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
44 -- Fever Ray - If I Had a Heart (9 votes, 97 points) (117 in P&J, 58 in p4k)
44 -- Basement Jaxx - Raindrops (9 votes, 97 points) (46 in P&J, 24 in p4k)
42 -- Guido - Way U Make Me Feel (8 votes, 97.5 points) (DNP in P&J, DNP in p4k)
41 -- Pill - Trap Goin Ham (8 votes, 97.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (128 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
40 -- Big Boi feat. Gucci Mane - Shine Blockas (9 votes, 98.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (22 in P&J, 7 in p4k)
39 -- Fever Ray - When I Grow Up (1 vote, 10.5 points for D. Lissvik Remix) (9 votes, 101.5 points) (97 in P&J, 36 in p4k)
38 -- Florence & the Machine - You Got the Love (Jamie xx Re-Work) (12 votes, 101.5 points) (DNP in P&J, DNP in p4k)
37 -- Lindstrøm & Prins Thomas - Tirsdagsjam (10 votes, 105.5 points) (DNP in P&J, DNP in p4k)
36 -- Gucci Mane ft. Plies - Wasted (11 votes, 105.5 points) (100 in P&J, 96 in p4k)
35 -- Crazy Cousinz - Inflation (8 votes, 106 points, 3 #1 vote/s) (455 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
34 -- Washed Out - Feel It All Around (10 votes, 106 points) (44 in P&J, 10 in p4k)
33 -- Bob Dylan - Must Be Santa (8 votes, 107 points) (132 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
32 -- Fuzzy Logic feat. Egypt - In The Morning (9 votes, 109 points) (1293 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
31 -- Fever Ray - Seven (3 votes, 23 points for Martyn's Seventh Remix) (11 votes, 111 points) (1601 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
30 -- DJ Quik & Kurupt - Hey Playa! (Moroccan Blues)(11 votes, 114 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (214 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
29 -- House of House - Rushing to Paradise (Walkin' These Streets) (11 votes, 114.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (148 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
28 -- Azari & III - Reckless With Your Love (9 votes, 116 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (481 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
27 -- Darkstar - Aidy's Girl Is A Computer (9 votes, 118.5 points, 2 #1 vote/s) (161 in P&J, 100 in p4k)
26 -- The-Dream - Rockin That Shit (9 votes, 122 points, 2 #1 vote/s) (120 in P&J, 90 in p4k)
25 -- Lady Gaga - Paparazzi (13 votes, 127.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (11 in P&J, 83 in p4k)
24 -- Lady Gaga - Poker Face (11 votes, 129 points, 2 #1 vote/s) (13 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
23 -- Girls - Lust for Life (12 votes, 131 points) (8 in P&J, 9 in p4k)
22 -- Jamie Foxx feat. T-Pain - Blame It (12 votes, 140.5 points, 2 #1 vote/s) (55 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
21 -- Taylor Swift - Love Story (10 votes, 141.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (177 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
20 -- Jay-Z - Empire State of Mind (ft. Alicia Keys) (13 votes, 144.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (1 in P&J, 44 in p4k)
19 -- Future Of The Left - Arming Eritrea (10 votes, 147 points, 3 #1 vote/s) (301 in P&J, 98 in p4k)
18 -- The Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Zero (14 votes, 147.5 points) (6 in P&J, 6 in p4k)
17 -- The xx - Crystalised (11 votes, 157.5 points) (33 in P&J, 16 in p4k)
16 -- Maxwell - Pretty Wings (13 votes, 161 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (14 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
15 -- Joy Orbison - Hyph Mngo (11 votes, 162.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (20 in P&J, 14 in p4k)
14 -- DJ Quik & Kurupt – 9X out of 10 (13 votes, 172 points) (67 in P&J, 33 in p4k)
13 -- Phoenix - 1901 (15 votes, 175 points) (2 in P&J, 3 in p4k)
12 -- Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling (13 votes, 176 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (19 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
11 -- The-Dream - Fancy (13 votes, 181.5 points, 2 #1 vote/s) (809 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
10 --The Juan Maclean - One Day (4 votes, 45.5 points for Surkin Remix) (16 votes, 184.5 points) (86 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
09 -- Lily Allen - The Fear (16 votes, 206.5 points, 3 #1 vote/s) (21 in P&J, 31 in p4k)
08 -- Shakira - She Wolf (7 votes, 88.5 points for Loba (#356 in P&J)) (17 votes, 216 points) (56 in P&J, DNP in p4k)
07 -- Dirty Projectors - Stillness is the Move (19 votes, 222 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (5 in P&J, 2 in p4k)
06 -- Lindstrom and Christabelle – Baby I Can't Stop (7 votes, 86 points for Aeroplane Remix [#811 in P&J]) (18 votes, 223.5 points) (DNP in P&J, DNP in p4k)
05 -- Phoenix - Lisztomania (17 votes, 241.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (9 in P&J, 8 in p4k)
04 -- Animal Collective - My Girls (21 votes, 243.5 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (3 in P&J, 1 in p4k)
03 -- Lady Gaga - Bad Romance (20 votes, 256 points) (7 in P&J, 39 in p4k)
02 -- Bat for Lashes - Daniel (21 votes, 262 points, 1 #1 vote/s) (16 in P&J, 4 in p4k)
01 -- Pleasure P feat. Flo Rida - Boyfriend #2 (29 votes, 312.5 points, 4 #1 vote/s) (4 in P&J, 7 in p4k)
01 -- Taylor Swift - You Belong With Me (24 votes, 267.5 points, 2 #1 vote/s) (10 in P&J, 69 in p4k)

i'd never heard any of the rap stuff or taylor swift before this thread... still reeling with confusion