Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me (RIP blogs)

http://www.elisabethremy.com/grandjany.mp3

^^^ ftr, also runs marathons

would ppl who are repping hard for jn's harp chops please list four or five of their other favorite harpists, please

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 5:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

think youre misreading some people? i dont think anyone is repping 4 her chops.

This is what I said upthread:

No one listens to her because she's the Yngwie Malmsteen of the harp -- she's isn't! There's no unnecessary display of technical prowess going on in any of her songs; they're all carefully, and painstakingly, composed pieces, and I personally don't hear anything "extraneous" in any of them.

I'm with max.

ksh highway what do you think of sonny boy williamson's harp playing

man, i'm impressed by anyone who can play a harmonica. i've tried. shit's hard.

(i used Wikipedia, btw.)

:-)

that chick from owt

zeena parkins, totally blanked on her name for a second there

Rhodri Davies, Xavier de Maistre, Alice Coltrane, Nicanor Zabaleta

i've heard her harp playing described as very idiosyncratic and sorta self-taught? it's all plinky plink plink to me.

not sure that anyone was repping that hard for the chops? Besides Evan's "extremely technically proficient", which isn't the most mindblowing of praise. (eesh many xposts, learn to type quickly.)

This song, I realise, kinda reminds me of Song Cycle, a kind of miniature excursion into the relatively-unmined-by-modern-pop-music side of the American vernacular.

no, her playing is equally influenced by trad classical training and african kora music

xp

i've heard her harp playing described as very idiosyncratic and sorta self-taught? it's all plinky plink plink to me.

― velko, Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:14 PM (1 minute ago)

she's classicaly trainwd

yeah, like i said, i'm not sure i could tell the diff (i was probably remembering someone describing her vocals lol)

"classically trained" is kind of like "went to college"

I'm sure she's fine but yeah it was even's "extremely technically proficient" line I was thinkin abt

lol @ the JN opinion police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FuYpme0Cm4

I saw her on the YS tour, she played some pretty intricate stuff for 1+ hour and I didn't hear an off note so I'd put her in the beyond proficient category

talks a bit about her harp playing here
http://www.chickfactor.com/current/cf16_joannanewsom.shtml

no, her playing is equally influenced by trad classical training and african kora music

xp

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 5:16 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thought this was a joke at first

hey j0hn when are you gonna finally write a dude-from-the-fiery-furnaces-style rant on JN and her cult

From that chickfactor interview:

cf: what's your drink of choice?
joanna: hmm. if I had my druthers, I would only drink framboise lambic, which is a raspberry-flavored, frothy, garnet belgian ale that tastes like unicorn tears.

This is exactly the shit that kept me from listening to her way back when. I mean, yes my own issue and I did get over it, but ffs... "unicorn tears"???

thing is, she is kind of OTM

also framboise sucks

xp haha

that's a random line which in no way communicates with the general landscape of her lyrics. and it has to be said she grew an enormous amount from the debut to ys

she meant the bloody wounds(tears) a unicorn makes with its horn

she grew. . . into a unicorn

framboise lambic is nice in small doses but in order to drink a whole lot of it you'd need to be really technically proficient

my respect for joanna newsom has gone way up now that I know she actually says things like "unicorn tears" in interviews

Triple LP btw

(turangalia, the thing is, I'm not a hater of JN - I think she's kinda terrific in some ways, and, besides, I think it's really kinda icky when musicians from the same side of the block snark & spit real-world venom, that is completely not my style - I'm glad as fuck that JN is making records that inspire people to flights of hyperbole, make them cry, etc. poking juvenile fun at ppl whose appreciation for classical music seems to begin and end with classically trained indie rock musicians, OTOH, that is exactly my style iirc, and besides, there are presently-working women songwriters who are considerably better than JN who don't get mileage because they don't give indie dudes a sci-fi boner, and that's the kinda haterade I can really get down with on an ilm thread or two)

So you don't think it's demeaning to lob in an assumption that all of us get turned on and THAT'S why we prefer Joanna Newsom to your own A list of female songwriters..

yes, I think it's the most demeaning thing ever & you should be outraged

Diane Cluck to thread

itt j0hn lists female songwriters more worthy of boners than joanna newsom

that's a random line which in no way communicates with the general landscape of her lyrics. and it has to be said she grew an enormous amount from the debut to ys

Oh, I know that. Like I said, I got over myself and eventually gave her a chance - very glad I did. But, really, thats a line that would have me rolling my eyes no matter who uttered it. But back when she was fist being hyped, you combine quote like that with the pictures of her with elf ears and you can 100% understand why people might not be on board.

do I count as female y/n, I think I've earned some boners

I'd rate your participation in this thread worthy of two and 1/2 boners.

shemale bonerz

Making music is primarily about giving erectile dream fodder to th audience. Some people are just way better at it than others. Ren fair pussy incidentally is clipped close,smells like lilac and often comes with keys to th castle. So go figger

lol danbunny I kiss you with my ren faire boner

i'm not sure (yet) about the melody of that new streaming song, but the production is A+:super clear and beautiful.
love those gentle trumpets and piano touches near the end.

steely dan Aja era?

I'm weirdly anticipating th new records and I TOO gave up on th attendant sparkle huzz of fuckedfulk. Its just her willingness to go on and on and on and on with all those lyrics. It kinda makes me feel safe in a dolphin net kinda feeling. A dolphin net w pillows and bubblehash. And a blanket. And NPR. Mmmmmmmmm

very diane cluck. Except diane was better. Easy to be around is classic

I wasn't repping for her chops, just saying it looked really hard to play that pattern on the harp and sing a somewhat complicated melody at the same time. I do like Dorothy Ashby tho.

I'd rep for her chops. Technical proficiency is one thing, but she's writing consistently interesting stuff for what is essentially either a diatonic or pentatonic instrument. I could go for some non-waltzes more often, but waltzes do fine.

It's just so hard to keep it all straight
With all the proficiency

can i just

http://www.mvdaily.com/articles/2002/10/bellplay.jpg

look isnt everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5bo10takGE

Taking bets: last song on this will be a 25 minute autotune solo