I'm with Grouty on this one, these guys just seemed like cynical hacks to me at the time.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
...Especially compared to Shirley's previous mob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDe3fngwIXk
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Have not heard Beyonce-on-Alanis at all, I can imagine that being amazing though.
must confess i was acting too cool for school by the time the 2nd album came out to ever listen to it. though i don't doubt its purported merits, checking it now just seems inadvisable all round sadly.
Yes I think even I wouldn't give it the time of day necessary to fall in love with it if I heard it for the first time now. Though I highly recommend "You Look So Fine" as a furtive download you can deny if interrogated later.
― Tim F, Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
"Only Happy When It Rains" over "Vow."
Version 2.0 is superior though; I used to say at the time that it was a Parallel Lines of the nineties.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
beyoncé doing alanis is indeed awesome, luckily had avoided all word of it until i saw her actually do it.
the second album is about half great half poor IIRC: i do remember being quite taken with the relentless wall-of-sound electronic production. the third album just looked like self-parody.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:04 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
they were laying bare the device. voted supervixen.
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
who cares about their cynicism?
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
imho it's more of a hack move to claim to be all-real all-the-time than to acknowledge that yes, we are paid musicians performing this for you, with you in mind.
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
they were laying bare the device.
Yeah but other people were doing this at the time, and in much more imaginative ways (e.g. the KLF). Garbage was just plodding pub-rock made by studio stooges.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Just about the only way I can swallow hoary old rock'n'roll is if it's been dipped in just a little romance.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
http://myiq2xu.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/strawman.jpg
― Tim F, Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah when i think of the sound on this album the phrase "pub-rock" immediately springs to mind
― Dr. Algernod Goon (some dude), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
There's something intensely dislikable about Shirley Manson. She looks more like a mardy estate kid than a mysterious seductress.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Something about this band turns people into Anthony DeCurtises and Jann Wenners.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
sort of the point? grumpy teenage goth gets to play at rockstar femme fatale
xp
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh garbage's production - both the electronic tinge and the shininess of it all - made them a lot more interesting to me than most other british bands doing the dregs-of-britpop rounds at the time
i have FOUND MY COPY of this! i shall play it imminently
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Sure, there's a lot of technical flash there but, it's sitting on top of a pretty mundane chassis isn't it?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
they were doing something more complicated than the klf. no-one looked for authenticity/realness in stadium house or novelty tracks. but that's exactly what post-grunge corporate rock traded on. so for garbage to f w that is more intesting to me than what the klf did. also they were good.
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, there you go, I've got no use for post-grunge corporate rock, so all the other stuff is lost on me.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
relistening now and kind of loving it, haha. only track that's struck a flinchy note so far is the chugga-chugga rock of "not my idea". the production is just so polished!
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I voted for Vow as it still sounds really great. I can't actually think of a better example of a band who never topped their first single.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
stupid girl
― you have to forgive me (surm), Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I loved this for a couple of weeks when it came out and haven't felt the urge to listen to it ever since.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Also: Curve > Garbage
i still listen to that version 2.0 bullshit
i LOVE PUSH IT
― you have to forgive me (surm), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
bbbut the 90s corp machine would only allow me to choose between garbage and bush
― u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
remember that rolling stone cover of what's his name
― you have to forgive me (surm), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
rip smart studios
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/images/RSCovers/bush.jpg
― you have to forgive me (surm), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
omg
― you have to forgive me (surm), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
for me this is either "Stroke of Luck", "Vow", or "As Heaven is Wide".
― gaz coombes? yo he don't got NUTHIN ta prove! (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 February 2016 23:28 (eight years ago) link
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, January 28, 2010
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link
this thread is like a GOP debate: the batshit is so disgusting that I can only point and laugh
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:04 (eight years ago) link