this shit sounds pretty controversial
― you forgot what a hardcore blogger is (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
its got a track that samples cassie
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Exasperation @ doglatin.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
but it's just so easy to imagine this music in commercials or in cheesy bars with way overpriced drinks.
Can we PLEASE put a moratorium on this lazy, overused, faux-class-based rhetorical jab? Of all the strawmen in the world that are just begging to be doused with gasoline and set alight...
― pshrbrn, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I must say that comment did annoy me but I let it fly cos I usually like Jordan.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i used to play jazz gigs at this one bar all the time, and they would always, always have some kind of tasteful, world-y electronic music on. i LIKE tasteful, world-y electronic music, but the whole vibe nearly ruined some of the good shit (cinematic orchestra, amon tobin, etc.) for me.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
and now it's sort of a personal yardstick for me, like "can i hear it being played at this bar, or does it have too much edge for that?"
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
you used to play gigs there
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
See, Cinematic Orchestra, to me, are exactly the kind of boring, played-in-the-arts-centre stuff you seem to be bemoaning - whereas Four Tet, and OH GOD THIS ALBUM WHICH I LOVE SO MUCH is what I take home with me clutched to my chest and play and play and play for myself.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
It initially struck me that Steely Dan made music for proto-yuppies who hung out in Woody Allen-ish Upper West Side bars with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers who spent their time going to wine- tastings and earnestly discussing the aesthetic merits of duck decoys as a decorative flourish.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, June 2, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Steely Dan = Highly literate, xenophobic musos with unapologetic jazz leanings and studio know-how, making music designed for Manhattan divorcee bars and aesthetes in corduroy blazers.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
It's still music for wine & cheese afficianados who wear patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, June 4, 2004 9:08 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Masturbatory coffee-table jazz-rock noodlery for people with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers hanging out in wine bars.
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:44 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Steely Dan have always been awful, wine-bar, patches-on-the-elbows-of-your-corduroy-blazer CRAP.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, May 6, 2008 2:09 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
This isn't world-y electronic music; it's blissful end-of-the-night house, or end-of-the-breakwater ambient, or middle-of-the-city techno, or...
xpost, hahaha
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
gotta work. i still play there, just not as much.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
…it's rounds, not rounders, right?
― CATBEAST!! (Z S), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
THANK YOU!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
end-of-the-breakwater ambient
Somehow I read that as "windbreaker ambient," which given the pouring rain here on Kauai today, and the way it fits nicely with the new Four Tet, seems like a great description. I'm gonna start using it, I think...
― pshrbrn, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm happy with that.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
definitely a genre that needed to be created
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
he's definitely benefited from the reid collabs and for my money has just got better and better - am loving the sort of housier edge some of the new stuff has ...
also - while am thinking of his successes this past decade that thom yorke mix he did from a couple of year ago needs some love an all ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNKFoHaROGA
― out comes stanley, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
My favorite remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsf_BFhv3U
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Takes a dreadful, anonymous-girl-with-piano tune and turns it into something bordering on transcendent.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Bit harsh on the original (especially if you've seen the Six Feet Under finale) but yes, that's a ravishing remix.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
re: Steely Dan
Alex in NYC is my hero
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
really love "windbreaker ambient," someone get on that
― his power told him (about the fish) (gbx), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
(especially if you've seen the Six Feet Under finale)
One of my favorite shows, yes, and I'll admit it's put to great use in the final scene.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 28 January 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Is the loop in "Sing" really the Super Mario Bros theme? Sure sounds like it could be.
― mh, Saturday, 30 January 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
New York Times piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/arts/music/19tet.html?ref=music
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 19 February 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
So I'm seeing Four Tet and Nathan Fake tonight in Austin -- really can't wait. Somehow I've never managed to see Kieran live, despite having been a fan since Pause, he's only been through Texas a couple of times that I can recall, and I've always managed to miss him. Heard great things about his live show these days and I'm beyond excited...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 20 February 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I gotta say take side A (Angel Echoes --> Love Cry) and side D (Plastic People --> She Just Likes to Fight) put them as side A and B on one record and you've got a phenomenal EP for my tastes. The rest hasn't stuck but those four are great.
― matt2, Thursday, 25 February 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
See, those are probably my least-favoured tracks. Circling and This Unfolds are the ones for me.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
This has become my default reading-while-on-the-train album but at the same time I wish it wanted to something more than just sit there being pretty.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Overall Rounds is way better than this.
Nope. I'm a *huge* Rounds fan but this new one is his best album.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
it's nice but i'm sticking to rounds & everything ecstatic for what i want out of four tet
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh wait, I like this. Have only just realised that this is what keeps turning up on mixtapes and going "ooh I like this, what is it?" I should really pay attention more.
― There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I can understand that Jordan. The funny thing is I decided, after a few years of being kind of interested and trying to listen to understand what was so special about him, that I really didn't want or need Four Tet much at all. I owned Rounds and Everything Ecstatic and ended up selling them back. Which is why I have been so pleasantly surprised by my genuine, effortless enjoyment of the tracks above.
― matt2, Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I admired Pause and Rounds, without ever really loving them. This new one is great, though - most unexpected.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Honestly I think Tom Ashbrook ruined Four Tet for me. I've heard and mildly liked a few tracks from the new one but I guess I just prefer electronic music with a more synthetic sound palette, or less rhythmic squareness, or both.
― Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i only really wanna hear side A so far, but i really wanna hear it a lot
― plax (ico), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
What did Tom Ashbrook do Paul?
― matt2, Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Used "Everything is Alright" as the theme music for one of NPR's most tedious talk shows.
― Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
but I guess I just prefer electronic music with a more synthetic sound palette, or less rhythmic squareness, or both.
but four tet is one of the least square, least quantized dudes out there. that's my favorite trick of his, all those free jazz drum samples that aren't quite in time but totally work.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Up until the last EP and this album; hence your 'meh'ness about it, I guess.
I love Pause, and Rounds, and like I like Dialogue (his jazziest! and no one mentions it!) and Everything Ecstatic too, but the Ringer EP took him in a direction I never expected and was very, very pleased with, and the new album melds that with his older work perfectly.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Dialogue (his jazziest! and no one mentions it!)
It's way out of print and I can't find the damn thing............................!
Nick, have you heard the Steve Reid collabs? What's the verdict?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't, actually; I dunno why. I saw him live in about 2004 and didn't enjoy it, and then didn't get EE initially, and kind of went off him - my affections fully transferred to Caribou for a few years, I guess, and I just kind of let the Steve Reid things drift past. May pick them up over the next few months though.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
anybody want to buy my copy of dialogue on cd? $100 ;)
― shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Finally reading what was said upthread --
I think I would have been annoyed at one point that music I like may be played at trendy overpriced cocktail bars, but at this point in the game, I like to pretend I could own an overpriced cocktail bar someday and play whatever I want, and it'd be Four Tet anyway.
― mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Cosign.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
x-post to nick
Caribou! Is it just me or did he lose some of the following post name-change? I kind of lumped him in the same category as Four Tet and I'm not sure I was wrong, but I haven't heard them in the same context lately.
― mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
2001/03/05 they had similarities; I still mentally file them together. They're mates, and DJ at each other's gigs all the time. Caribou's new album also meant to be fancier.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
DANCIER.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link