New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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I wonder if these guys who make these fake ads think they're gonna get a job in apple's advertising department as a a result

i'm with stupid ☞ (dyao), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

such a waste of fcp/motion skills

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

still think this guy should have got a gig

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

Is the event tomorrow or Wednesday?

Jeff, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 04:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wednesday

kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 04:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Momus has one

http://imomus.livejournal.com/520114.html

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

bah its fake!

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

Please let this thing run Serato.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/01/26/tablet

kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

exciting

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 03:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dilute Dilute OK!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 03:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Please let this thing run Serato.

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:27 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Serato is actually the main interface to the OS

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 10:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

I hear the tablet is actually manufactured by Numark and will come with red racing stripes.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

comes with a grounding wire

scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

will also function as a fridge magnet iirc

i'm with stupid ☞ (dyao), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

you have to buy two of them to be a real tablet dj

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

like this guy:

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

so amazing the amount that has been written (and illustrated) about this w/o apple publicly saying word one about it

scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

i heard it can go up stairs by itself

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

I heard it doesn't have a name so death can't find it, it doesn't have a home or people to care for. it's not afraid of anything, men least of all. It's fast and strong like a big wind. It can hear for a hundred miles and see a hundred miles underwater. It can hide in the shadow of a noon sun. It could be right behind you and you wouldn't know it 'til you're dead.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

CANT WAIT TO NOT BUY THIS

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

haha fantastic post gukbe

Maria, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah, good post, but from what I'm reading none of that is confirmed

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

i want to be jaded and w/e but i have a feeling that i'm really, really gonna want one of these immediately

his power told him (about the fish) (gbx), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

ur a doctor qed

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

sike! me too

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

randy e. bugler (jeff), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Harvey Dent, he's at it again!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

starting in 17 minutes

kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

From that engadget post:

9:42AM Okay! We're in our seats and there's some Dylan playing on the sound system!

9:11AM Overall the mood is really jovial right now. It's basically a party in the U.S.A.

kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well, now I know not to read that coverage.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

basically a party in the U.S.A.

his power told him (about the fish) (gbx), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

new board motto

his power told him (about the fish) (gbx), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

I hope the home button isn't in the middle of the tablet, as has been shown in all the mock ups; it makes sense on the iphone (where the thumb lands innit) but wouldn't on a tablet (on the same principle)

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.justin.tv/#r=y6Ire8c

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

where is the best coverage going to be?

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh shit, didn't know TWiT was doing a live show. thanks cozen!

kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

Exciting updates from Ars Technica:

There's a chair and table on stage

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

not on verizon that's for sure

xxpost

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

gorenography

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

here we go!

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm wayyyyyy too fucking excited

kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

you can hear Jobs speaking on the Justin.tv link

http://www.justin.tv/#r=uGgAhEQ

kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

ipad

stet, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

omg 'iPudding' who saw it coming

schlump, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

nah the idea is it'd have a display strip above the keyboard to show you, uh, something

maybe some of those notification states ppl cram in the menu bar now?

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 10 June 2016 15:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

it's just gonna show whether you have caps lock on or not

if you do, it says "yes"

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 10 June 2016 15:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

ugh we have a bunch of Lenovo X1 Carbons and I hate it (bcz instead of having F1-F12 keys it just has a long strip)

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 10 June 2016 19:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

where's markers at, are all my real apple doods checking out this dev conference stuf

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 13 June 2016 17:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

open music, get library

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 June 2016 18:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

incredible innovation

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 June 2016 18:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

have to blow away the cruft every once in a while

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 13 June 2016 18:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm into the awesome-ing up of iMessage and the API-ing of Siri

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 13 June 2016 19:09 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Watch might finally be useful

stet, Monday, 13 June 2016 20:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

FINALLY a stake is driven into HFS+ but beware of splinters
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/06/digging-into-the-dev-documentation-for-apfs-apples-new-file-system/

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 13 June 2016 20:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

o shit

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 13 June 2016 21:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Hope Siracusa comes out of retirement to talk about that a bit

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 13 June 2016 21:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

No mention of the Dynamic kerfuffle during the Swift talk last night. I'm with the oldies on this one; I like Objective-C and I wish some of these whippersnappers understood what it was good for before inventing less-useful successors. But I'm still in a snit that bindings didn't make to iOS (not least because I saw a very cool demo of them running on an engineer's phone once) and a bigger snit about dot syntax so it's no surprise I'm not the biggest Swift fan.

stet, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 11:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

dynamic kerfuffle? please to have the links

germane geir hongro (s.clover), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 02:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I don't have links but some people complained about Swift's type system and then John Gruber got to pretend he has written a line of code since he crapped out Markdown.pl

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 04:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Tsai has the links: http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/05/21/dynamic-swift-2/

stet, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 06:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I haven't jumped into ObjC/Swift development (just a little fiddling around with ObjC every couple years) but have a love/hate relationship with dynamic objects and all they entail

I'm assuming by "bindings," stet, you're talking about the GUI type that's essential to things like MVVM and a slew of modern frameworks and I'm kind of surprised, although not shocked, that there's no support. The current world of higher-end libraries and GUI frameworks are possibly _too_ dependent on dynamism although, outside of strict implementation in the native libraries, I'm not sure if there's a good solution.

Having gone from backend Java programming that seemed to get more coupled to dynamic binding every year (Spring, any ORM solution, eventually every library that seemed to exist) to desktop C# with MVVM/WPF I can see where leaving Swift in a binding-less, dynamism-free world makes everything very literal and debugging much simpler, but it kneecaps the ability to implement any modern-styled libraries without leaning heavily on the ObjC runtime.

I'm guessing the interim will be abstracting all your foundational code in ObjC or relying on community libraries that do all that for you and implementing pure Swift solutions, but again, you're going to hit a debugging black hole.

On the other hand, there's the WPF-style nightmare where if you don't code things exactly MVVM-style, setting up bindings required some near-arcane memorization of the binding syntax. I think the debugging/visual tools for setting those up in Visual Studio have gotten a lot better, but I still grind my teeth thinking about running an app in debug and looking for particular binding errors in the logs due to the fact missing a binding didn't generate an exception in user code

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:09 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

by dynamic it sounds like people are talking about introspection/reflection? these are both things you can achieve perfectly well in a static setting...

germane geir hongro (s.clover), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

(also suspect that ppl aren't comfortable enough with protocols as a mechanism for polymorphism?)

germane geir hongro (s.clover), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I think that those two things are the most visible implementations in modern languages, yeah

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

xxp there's some good stuff from better beards than me about why that's not really the case here, at least not with substantial extra effort. Things like NSCoding, KVO and the responder chain are harder to achieve, and were impossible in earlier versions of Swift. A Swift author writes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11752983

Swift has protocols and people seem pretty OK with them, too.

stet, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 16:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

with NSCoding I think the issue is what people would otherwise call "auto-deriving of protocols". that's absolutely solvable with "static reflection" (also known as "real generics").

germane geir hongro (s.clover), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 16:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I guess if we get all this without the Obj-C runtime etc, it'll all be sweet. But given we've got it all right now, I'm peeved at having to wait. I like Objective-C, basically.

stet, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 16:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

all the things a journeyman programmer should be able to avoid but gets drawn into

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 16:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I imagine this discussion will disappear when Swift introduces higher-kinded types for protocols.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 22:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

re: the apple/oracle software points, there are huge differences between using a company's software for your retail/supply chain/hr operations (oracle's software used at apple), helping port a product to your os (oracle db running on macos), and actually integrating another company's software into your consumer product

using oracle products to do inventory tracking or something isn't a product development relationship

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 16 June 2016 19:37 (1 week ago) Permalink

can't even think of very many instances where apple is dependent on an outside _hardware_ company where they haven't created an exclusive relationship, own large parts of the company, or have invested large amounts in infrastructure in the course of the partnership

displays and memory are multi-sourced, processor design is in-house and not dependent on any one chip fabricator, cellular modems/wifi chips tend to go in waves and they seem open to switching on a moment's notice. if there might be a dependency on a particular material used in construction, they've gone so far as to nearly buy out that liquid metal company and had a near-lock on that sapphire glass company before they went belly-up

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 16 June 2016 19:43 (1 week ago) Permalink

anyone else on ios 10?

calstars, Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

are you posting from 10

how is it over there?

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:07 (1 week ago) Permalink

of course

it's a keiretsu/japanese style of hybrid vertical/lateral integration that is very efficient/effective

owning parts of the company allows apple to influence them to better align with apple's core competencies

lower difficulty parts can be multisourced

xxp

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:09 (1 week ago) Permalink

Zing works fine on 10. Haven't found any other apps that don't work either (only about 10 installed). New iMessage stuff is fun to play with. And raise to see the home screen is useful when you pull your phone out of your pocket.

calstars, Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:13 (1 week ago) Permalink

Music controls on home screen are much larger too, finally.

calstars, Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:14 (1 week ago) Permalink

on the lock screen, that is

calstars, Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

how's stability/battery life?

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:37 (1 week ago) Permalink

Stability seems fine. Haven't noticed a change in battery life either, but only been using for about 6 hours so far

calstars, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:13 (1 week ago) Permalink

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/06/16/ios-10-apps-fast-af/

If you’re scrolling through an app like Airbnb, there are a lot of ‘cells,’ or blocks of data. If you scroll fast, you’ve likely seen apps jitter trying to keep up. That’s commonly called ‘dropping frames,’ and makes apps look a bit worse than they are.

During a session at WWDC, Apple noted the reason for those dropped frames was that content is loaded just before it lands on-screen. Those cells you’re about to scroll to were loaded milliseconds before you got to them.

Now, Apple is loading those cells well ahead of the time you scroll to them to make sure that when they do land on your screen, the scrolling performance and load times aren’t noticeable. Apple says 60 frames per second is ideal, but existing scrolling performance often misses that mark.


i am disproportionately excited about this

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:22 (1 week ago) Permalink


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