Ulrich Schnauss, Classic or Dud?

I was just listening to this via the Realplayer BBC link, and Shine started up with this lovely little gamelan style intro, and I thought "hey, what an unusual and interesting departure". Then this guy with a boring voice started singing over the top, then the gamelan faded and the standard Schnaussisms started up and I was disappointed.

Then I realised the gamelan was from iTunes which had been playing in the background... :( or maybe :)

It's sounded really good whenever I've played bits of ASIP (On My Own in particular, and Medusa too, I suspect) in clubs.

His two best songs, and the direction I sincerely hope he goes in. You have no idea how much I want this kind of sound and production in dance music.

You have no idea how much I want gamelan sound and production in dance music.

that would also be good, maybe we should collaborate

Ok let me first go on a five year fully immersive retreat to Indonesia in order to truly understand my source material.

after which time you will have renounced all cultural 'entertainment', very sneaky. take a portable disco, however, and you have my blessing.

I don't understand why people find Ulrich's stuff boring ;_;

I've been listening to "Goodbye" a lot since it came out and it is just gorgeous. "Shine" is just so uplifting and beautiful, like Slowdive, like taking off in a plane, like a high.

Because he more or less has a one-trick-pony thing going on. It's a good one, but I can see how it'd get predictable.

Which is why tracks like 'Medusa' are his best, because they take his one trick and add unexpected curveballs to it. I sincerely hope he takes his music into a more dance-oriented format now. Either that, or he goes all progressive on us. :-D

I think "Stars" is the best thing he's done so far, it's the perfection of his current formula & takes it to a new level of intensity. But I dunno if I'd be quite satisfied with another album of sugar-crystal drum machines and all-consuming synth washes and predictable dynamics. Dude has a great ear, so hopefully he'll move onto something different next album and it'll be fantastic.

If he goes too far in that Kraftwerky Medusa direction I am not so sure I'd like it. But who's to say.

listening to this album loud on fancy speakers is pretty amazing. it has so much depth! bits of lush, xymox, vangelis floating up and receding... i absolutely love it.

I'm still angry that the title-track "Goodbye" kicks off with just about the most killer chord-progression imaginable, keeps it up for two or three minutes, but then devolves into crass, substanceless emotional manipulation during the outro. He could have done so much more with that track.

Medusa (album version) might, objectively, be the song of 2007, even though I have a couple of personal preferences above it. It's absolutely unfuckable-with.

No such thing as objectivity, dude.

Dammit you have a point. There's a meaning I'm searching for. This song, then, appeals to me as a construction, as a work of art, more than any other, even if I get a bigger personal reaction out of a few others.

Formalist!

"the formalist Geir"

Well, riffing on a certain theme has done certain posters no harm. You're compression, Geir's melody, I can be formalism! Not that I really want to be squeezed into a box but hey, what can you do?

"Stars" is properly awesome, yeah!

Medusa>>On My Own>>Clear Day>>Stars>>the rest of ASIP>>the rest of Goodbye

lol early 2007 me

not to get all LJ about the matter

There was a thread at the end of '03 where everyone was asked to recommend a single track to download from an album they felt deserved more attention. I picked "Blumenthal" from ASIP, and I still think it's my favorite song off any of his albums. Don't know if it's a bias I have for all things Cocteau (it can't be, I love shoegaze just as much), but that track is just perfect to me. The second and third chorus repeats still light me up after hundreds of listens.

Had 'In all the Wrong Places' on a loop for the last hour.

Am I
A) Depressed
B) On Crack
C) Pissed
D) Mentally ill
E) In love with the song

It's actually all eight!

When it pulses at around three minutes - search it you music loving freaks

Congratulations, "On My Own", you just became the first song in my iTunes collection to make it to 100 completed plays!!! :D

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^quite possibly, song of the fucking decade

Mark my words, A Strangely Isolated Place will be understood as the seminal work of absolute genius that it is perhaps 10-15 years from now.

― libcrypt, Saturday, 7 April 2007 18:30 (1 year ago)

this post basically justifies everything libcrypt has said or done on ILX

Imagine ASIP *with* Stars, Medusa and Goodbye on it

just imagine

oh shit

ok, have created a playlist

it is ASIP in its entirety with "Stars" inserted after "Letter From Home" and "Medusa" inserted after "Blumenthal"

"Goodbye" couldn't be included thanks to time constraints, and although I was tempted to sub it in for "Monday - Paracetamol", this would have damaged the album's flow, and created sequencing issues near the end, and besides it's not THAT brilliant, so it stayed off

it is a musical monolith

not that ASIP isn't anyway

hmm but I'm having second thoughts now. "Monday - Paracetamol" is the pretty, slightly Xanaxed de-stresser which soothes the listener's brain after the sheer emotional wrangle of "Letter From Home"...shoving a flat-out shoegaze pop song, even a totally brilliant one, in between kinda ruins the flow

am less concerned with "Medusa"'s position, but some things are probably best left as they were intended. as a last resort i'm pushing "Stars" up between "On My Own" and "Letter". but deep down, I know that ASIP's perfectly-sequenced entirety rules supreme

anyway I'm Bimbling, time for bed

You know, I've really gone off this guy, which is odd.

Kind of like eating too many lollies. Very awesome, but made me sick on the gorging too quick.

I think "Goodbye" is like the best song ever written ever whenever I listen to it.

It took me a long time to love Goodbye (the album) compared to his first two and bits of it still never get anything but skipped, especially the godawful Shine. The good tracks are up there with his very best though, esp. Goodbye, Never Be The Same and Medusa.

Any love here for the Guthrie remixes on the Quicksand Memory ep? I like the way that he tries to outgun Ulrich's wall of synths with his own wall of guitars and very nearly succeeds.

Assuming he's working on some new stuff it would be good to hear him step back a bit from the more-is-more approach of Goodbye and revisit the simplicity of ...Trains.

Used to like, but started hating once he became, well, OMNIPRESENT.

I think that the three most PH34RED words in the nu-gaze canon are:

ULRICH. SCHNAUSS. REMIX.

This should be my perfect music, synthesis of shoegaze textures and ambient Germanic electronica, but it just leaves me cold. He just seems to drain the life out of things. Too much midrange.

I'm not a stan of his remixes in general, and I can see where you are with the midrange crit, but his takes on Justin Robertson and I'm Not A Gun are both awesome.

My main worry with ol' Uli is that he's painted himself into a bit of a corner with this maximalism approach ("more tracks! all playing at once! sonic cathedrals!") and it's at odds with the unshowy melodicism of his earlier stuff.

I found him OK on record, but seeing him live twice kind of made me dislike him... not for the side-on staring at laptop with no audience engagement thing, but just because, y'know, does this guy have anything not found on the cutting room floor after BoC remixed Slag Boom van Loon?

(though first time live was as somewhat inappropriate support for Stars of the Lid in an aggravatingly crammed-with-chatterers Dublin pub where we got stuck right at the top of the stairs to the bar and were constantly elbowed, and second time was in the middle of an all-day nu-gaze snoozefest where every band looked awesome on paper and yet managed to bore me to tears by the sheer sameyness, so, you know)

I tend to prefer him live - UNLESS that twat from Longview is singing in which case KILL KILL KILL.

Seems that Ulrich and his label(s) are now suing Guns n' Roses over samples lifted on for the intro of Riad N' The Bedouins:

Rolling Stone's report

The article seems fundamentally wrongheaded to me; if you listen to the tracks in question and then the GnR song it's 100% obvious that they've used samples of them. The samples aren't in anything but the intro (and certainly doesn't form the body of the song), but if they've not cleared this then surely it's illegal? And bloody stupid too, given how apparent it is.

Agreed! It's not like Chinese Democracy was a haste job either :)

Rolling Stone's reporter having cloth ears shock.

I don't know guys, the first thing I thought when I heard Chinese Democracy was "shit, Axl has been listening to loads of Ulrich Schnauss, hasn't he?".

I just found out about this. Way to keep it a secret, guys!

http://blog.pedigreecuts.com/?p=294

We are proud to announce that this magnificent album, the fruit of a collaboration between Ulrich Schnauss and Jonas Munk is now available to our agents via Harvest Media. This stunning 14 track foray into the world of the emotive and uplifting has already started gathering interest and reactions worldwide. A big thanks to Ulrich & Jonas for their efforts and to everyone else involved in this project.

PED A010 – Ulrich Schnauss & Jonas Munk – “Epic” is available now.

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Ulrich and Manual? Damn. Has anyone heard it?

Wow, "Chasing Rainbows" streaming on that link above is *immense*. Never heard of this before, and by the look of it they are not even definitely releasing it for sale = insane.

http://astrangelyisolatedplace.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/ulrich-schnauss-jonas-munk/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk552H2SUKY

Wow, Chasing Rainbows doesn't actually suck! I know that's damning with faint praise, I'm surprised to find I like it. I just wish they'd turn that endless Ulrich-verb down a bit.

Actually just discovered that if you scroll through the album covers up in the header like you would in iTunes, and get to the Schnauss & Munk album, you can stream the entire thing.

http://blog.pedigreecuts.com/?cat=16

Hint: go to your left.

mmm

v good job JF. This will be the soundtrack to this morning!

http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2010/08/engineers-return-in-praise-of-more/

:D

hubba hubba.

did I hear SHOEGAZE SUPERGROUP