Classic or Dud: "Ladies and Gentlemen..WEEN!"

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Hey, Henry Rollins digs Ween!

― Lord Custos, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Hey, Henry Rollins digs Ween!
As good a reason as any to hate them, as I do (my thoughts pretty much echo electric sound of jim's...sorry, Tadusz, I just can't see the Zappa lineage that strongly, because you always knew Zappa was smart whereas Ween always sounds profoundly dumb to me).

Speaking of Rollins picks, anybody remember Die Cheerleader?

― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Whoops, sorry TadEusz. I needed that extra e for a post elsewhere on the board. I have replaced it here now that I've retrieved it: e. Add to the appropriate places.

― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Re Die Cheerleader - the Brazen Hussies bass player was in a short- lived stoner rock band with Rita, but he didn't introduce me to her because he thought I would say something lecherous and perverted. He was correct. Anyway, that's my four (I think - how does this game work?) degrees of separation from Greg Ginn!

― dave q, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

Ween really is the American Beatles. There's no other way to put it.

― Matt Kendall (mattkendall), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 12:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

tell me about the non-threatening upbeat
happy decent actual *songs* they've written.
every time i hear them it's like
'oh good another one about prostitutes'.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

piscesboy, check out...

"Sarah" or "She's My Baby" for sure. Very beautiful songs.

My favorite thing about Ween, among the countless other reasons, is that they're the only band that can be so retardedly stupid (in a good way) one minute (aka "Pumpin' for the Man", which is also a very appropriate song to listen to if you work hard for $5.50/hr), and the very next be playing a completely gorgeous amazing song the next (aka "Sarah", which is just stunning), with ZERO tongue-in-cheek factor.

IMHO, they're the REALest band this side of Fishbone, and I personally believe every album they've made so far has been even more amazing than the next. Plus, they're one of the best concerts I've ever experienced.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

And also IMHO Matt Kendall is OTM.

Some more serious good non-threatening upbeat songs with very-little-to-zero mention of prostitutes for piscesboy:

"Exactly Where I'm At"
"A Tear for Eddie"
"Freedom of '76" (okay, a little silly, but still beautiful)
"Take Me Away"
"Buckingham Green"
"Flutes of Chi"

And if the phrase "novelty band" had existed back then, you'd better believe the Beatles would have been one. "Buffalo Bill" anyone?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 15:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

thought : wtf is 'buffalo bill' ?

― piscesboy, Thursday, 30 January 2003 13:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Buffalo Bill" by The Beatles...a novelty band if there ever was one.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think that's "Bungalow Bill"

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

D'oh!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

"She places the lotion in the basket or else she gets the hose again"

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

i think, you'll all find that it's neither
it's 'the continuing story of bungalo bill'.

come on this is the *fabs*
we're talking about here -
have some respect.

― piscesboy, Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

Uh, that's be "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill", piscesboy. Let he who is without sin . . .

― J (Jay), Thursday, 30 January 2003 17:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

And Ween are freakin' great. Anybody who thinks they're just a joke band hasn't listened closely. I suggest you try ignoring the lyrics.

― J (Jay), Thursday, 30 January 2003 17:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I know I'm resurectum a completely old and dead post, but, fuck it, I'm drunk.

Ween rule, and they are also a beam of guiding light for anyone who's former bandmates live 400 miles away and all you gots is a 4-track, drum machine, mic, and a few guitars.

― Hellfuck, Friday, 21 May 2004 23:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Where did the motherfuckin' cheese go at?
(i don't know)

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 May 2004 03:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ween are geniuses.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 22 May 2004 04:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

TEN CATCHY-AS-HELL WEEN SONGS WITH NON-STUPID LYRICS:
1. Voodoo Lady
2. Buenos Tardes Amigo
3. Tried and True
4. Flutes of the Chi
5. Exactly Where I'm At
6. Don't Get 2 Close (2 My Fantasy)
7. What Deaner Was Talking About
8. Take Me Away
9. Mutilated Lips
10. The H.I.V. Song

Jeez, here I am looking at all the mp3s I have of this band, and I'm thinking why the hell doesn't anybody like them??? These songs are fucking fantastic!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 22 May 2004 04:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

ALL of those songs have stupid lyrics, yet they undeniably rule

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 22 May 2004 04:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

I guess "stupid" wasn't exactly the right word. More like "sophomoric." Like for example, "Let me lick your pussy / Let me eat your cunt" or "Baby baby baby bitch. / Fuck you you stinkin'-ass ho."

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 22 May 2004 04:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

For a Ween "look-they-aren't-entirely-retarded" POX, I would go:

1. Sarah
2. She's Your Baby
3. It's Gonna Be Alright
4. Cold Blows the Wind
5. If You Could Save Yourself (You'd Save Us All)
6. Right To the Ways and Means of the World
7. Exactly Where I'm At
8. Buckingham Green
9. Chocolate Town*
10.It's Gonna Be A Long Night

*(it is often presumed that this song is a reference to anal sex, but I contend that it is a tribute to Hershey Pennsylvania)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

"The HIV song" doesn't have stupid lyrics??

"You Were The Fool" and "It's Gonna Be Alright" are without a doubt the 2 best "serious" Ween songs. Definitley both are in my top 5 ween songs, and they're both fucking gorgeous.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

x-post Tofu, you should post one of those Pizza Hut commercials on your your hut. That shit is kuh-lassic.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Let me lick your pussy

You mean the Prince cover?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ween are great. I stayed away from them for the longest time, mostly because I didn't like the people I know who were fans. But an acquaintance one time made me a mix cd with their songs and I loved it. They're fucked up, funny, intelligent, sophomoric, AND sincere.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 22 May 2004 20:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

actually the "motherfucking cheese" track is scheduled to show up on my FUCK album review spectacular, forthcoming.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 May 2004 08:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

The tracklisting for my FUCK mix CD:

1 Madonna "What the Fuck Do You Think You're Doing?"
2 Millie Jackson "The Fuck You Symphony (Live)"
3 The Coup "Lazymuthafucka"
4 Beck "Fuckin' With My Head"
5 Sleater-Kinney "Write Me Back, Fucker"
6 Liz Phair "Fuck and Run"
7 Missy Elliott "They Don't Wanna Fuck Wit' Me"
8 Fischerspooner "Fucker"
9 Tupac Shakur "Fuck 'Em All"
10 Ol' Dirty Bastard "You Don't Want to Fuck With Me"
11 50 Cent "Fuck You"
12 Jay Z "Fuck That"
13 Three 6 Mafia "Get the Fuck Out My Face"
14 Ween "Where th' Motherfucking Cheese At?"
15 Jon and Al Kaplan "Put the Fucking Lotion in the Basket"
16 Trey Stone and Matt Parker "Shut Your Fucking Face, Uncle Fucker"
17 Peaches "I Don't Give a Fuck"
18 Rage Against the Machine "Fuck Tha Police (Live)"
19 Dub Narc "Fuck Shit Up"
20 Eamon vs. Sinead O'Connor "Fucking Compares 2 U (DJ Fancy Dan MiX)"
21 D'Angelo "Shit Damn Motherfucker (Live)"
22 Magnetic Fields "How Fucking Romantic"
23 Belle and Sebastian "Fuck This Shit"
24 Bernie Mac "Motherfucker"
25 Black Sheep "For Doz That Slept"

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 May 2004 08:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

hey fatboy (asshole)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

when ween comes to your town, bring them hot meals.
no more junk food, thanks.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

"As I scope the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBE
I am the one
Who controls the SUN!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

Classic. No contest.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

BLUDGEON YER EYE!!!!!

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

ned otm

― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

Just think of the master

― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

The tracklisting for my FUCK mix CD

If I may suggest:
26. Eminem - "Just Don't Give a Fuck".

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

"And I know that things will last as time elapse, elapses...time elapses through the soooouuunnd of you, and the things we could do!"

Classico amigo.

― Piers (piers), Thursday, 18 November 2004 05:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

How many bands have invent their own demon god and continue to write about it for 10+ years?

Of those bands, how many name said demon god "Boognish?"

They were classic the first time I heard "You Fucked Up" and the were classic the last time I heard the 6+ minute long version of "Where'd the Cheese Go?" on their fan-request live album. Which was this afternoon.

I do have to disagree vehemently that they've anything in common with They Might Be Giants other than being a band with a core of two guys both of whom have severely under-noticed musicianship and songwriting ability. I completely get why some folks don't "get" either or both of these bands, but I still maintain that it's really easy to overlook facts like the fact that Dean just fucking shreds.

Fact.

On a related note: Moistboyz... C or D? Cause I had reservations (though I probably still wouldn't have said Dud right off), but now I have heard Moistboyz III on vinyl, and I'm gonna have to say Classic.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

above "have invent" should be "have invented," obv.
"the were classic" = "they were classic"

It's late.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

How come in this three year old thread, no-one has mentioned how much 'Captain Fantasy' fuckin' rocks??!!

― myopic_void (myopic_void), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

"PLEASE WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE..."

Moistboyz -- I enjoy them, my sister, the ultra-Ween fan mentioned above, LURVS them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Indeed "Capt. Fantasy" rocks mightily, and The Pod remains Ween's best album.

It goes like this (scale from 1-10):

GodWeenSatan - 7
The Pod - 8
Pure Guava - 7
The Mollusk - 6
White Pepper - 5

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

(I'm leaving off the ones I don't own and haven't heard as much of.)

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

But Dude, you need Chocolate & Cheese in that case - it's like The Pod without the Scotchguard haze!

― myopic_void (myopic_void), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

(Wow! That was my first post using italics. And it worked! I might consider introducing myself and being less of an all-round lurker now.)

― myopic_void (myopic_void), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

ONE OF US.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

It will be interesting to see how they rate in the ILX 90's album poll. I place GodWeenSatan and The Mollusk very high on my list.

Yes I would say that, I would say that.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

(x-post)

Ha ha. Thanks Ned!

― myopic_void (myopic_void), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

But Dude, you need Chocolate & Cheese in that case - it's like The Pod without the Scotchguard haze!

I have it on VERY good authority that the haze on The Pod has less to do with Scotchguard than it has to do with the fact that both Dean and Gene had mono during the recording of it.

There is a toss up for my favorite Ween song. It's like a battle... Captain Fantasy vs. Doctor Rock.

FITE!

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

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"My mom bought me a cool shirt. When I wear it, I'm the shit."

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 10 February 2006 03:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

"FRAAANK, GIVE ME A PORK ROLL EGG AND CHEEEESE IF YOU PLEEEASE, WITH SOME GRAVY FRIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS..........."

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 31 July 2006 17:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Whoa, I am listening to The Pod RIGHT NOW!!! (it's on Pollo Asado)

― Marmot 4-Tay: The root cause of dragon hatred among power metal bands. (marmotwo, Monday, 31 July 2006 17:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Me too!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 31 July 2006 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'll be yer johnny on the spot...

Classic

― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Monday, 31 July 2006 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

CAPTAIN FANTASY!!1!!!11!

― Marmot 4-Tay: The root cause of dragon hatred among power metal bands. (marmotwo, Monday, 31 July 2006 17:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

Those early albums still rule the goddamn roost.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

All their albums rule the goddamn roost.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard the later ones as much. :-/

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

They're okay. Once upon a time, I dug the first few albums an awful lot. But I found I cared less and less as time went by. Not so much that the quality dropped, but my interest level sure did. Not sure why... Guess I just found 'em more charming when they seemed like go-nowhere losers fucking around (brilliantly) on a 4-track.

I wish them the best of luck in everything they do.

― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

Ohwhoa,duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.

― Marmot 4-Tay: The root cause of dragon hatred among power metal bands. (marmotwo, Monday, 31 July 2006 18:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

...like a brother on skates...

― the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Their live albums rule the goddamn roost, even though they do not come close to recreating the sheer awesomeness that is a live ween experience. Although live albums don't have stinky stoners constantly moshing into you.

― danzig (danzig), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

don't get 2 close 2 my fantasy
don't be afraid to touch the hand of your creator
stare into the lion's eye
and if you taste the candy
you'll get to the surprise

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss.

― Emily B (Emily B), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 03:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

im otm on this thread: Ween. Are they great or what?

ween are better now at singing and playing guitar but worse at making records.
-- ¨?¨?¨?¨?¨?¨? (chaki.time...), June 20th, 2006 1:17 PM. (chaki)

― Supercalifragilisticexpiala Brosius (chaki), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 03:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

Let us all anticipate the new Ween FRIENDS EP (due 06/19) and untitled album (due sometime this fall)!

Roxor.

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

"what deaner was talking about" is the shins but better

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

HOLY BALLS I AM SEEING THEM LIVE ON SUNDAY.

taste the waste!

― Emily Bjurnhjam, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

My cat's name is Captain Fantasy.

― Davey D, Saturday, 9 June 2007 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

"Don't Laugh (I Love You)" is all the twee most people will ever want.

― Cunga, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ
Pain
Take one
Yeah! Pain

Last time I saw you, I was holding your hand
And I couldn't wait for you to leave
I knew right then that it was over and done
And I couldn't believe that I was free

Help me now, I'm going down
And I don't know if I'll be ok
I'll be around, I'll be in town
If you need a place to stay

When the wind blows and there's a chill in the air
I hope that someone is taking care of you
I'm alright, yeah, I'm really ok
Just so you know I'm always there for you

Help me now, I'm going down
And I don't know if I'll be ok
I'll be around, I'll be in town
If you need a place to stay

― Anton Levain (jdchurchill), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Just had a thought, could "Buckingham Green" be a reference to Lindsey + Peter? Or is it just a cool English-sounding name?

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I always thought that it was a reference to the Buckingham Green Shopping Center located a few miles down the road from New Hope, PA.

― bmus, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seeing these dudes tomorrow again! Hope they go light on the La Cucaracha album, the only dud in their catalog IMO...

― ColinO, Saturday, 17 July 2010 04:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Where did the motherfucking cheese go at?

― lol @ dog w/ sunglasses (Pillbox), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

(i don't know)

― lol @ dog w/ sunglasses (Pillbox), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Ween, the eternal:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-0129-ween-20110129,0,6390254.story

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

ween, the clusterfucking (from what I hear): http://www.straight.com/article-369810/vancouver/ween-completely-blows-it-bizarre-vancouver-show

― symsymsym, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Hope they go light on the La Cucaracha album, the only dud in their catalog IMO...

people keep putting down La Cucaracha, but the two tracks I have heard from it (Woman And Man and the divine Your Party) are both amazing.

Particularly Your Party, which is plainly the best song ever recorded by anyone.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 30 September 2011 11:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

are there really standouts from that album? maybe i'll give it another shot.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

dirty vicar otm. "woman and man" is ween's "sympathy for the devil." the sax on "your party" kills. "spirit walker" could have been on 'white pepper.' "friends" is one of their best songs. all in all have to say this album is better than 'quebec'

― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

single version of Friends >>>>>>>> album version of Friends

― robocop last year was a 'shop (sic), Saturday, 1 October 2011 02:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think quebec is maybe their best, so I cant agree with that, but La C isn't as terrible as you've probably heard
I dig "Blue Balloon" quite a bit, it's a really dumb song but I like it

― frogbs, Saturday, 1 October 2011 02:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

by the way it's 2012 now and they still haven't released a follow up, now I'm getting sad (especially considering how prolific these guys used to be)

― frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

solo Gene Ween coming soon...

http://www.aaronfreeman.net/

― billstevejim, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

If I'm reading this correctly, it's produced by the same guy who did 12 Golden Country Greats...

― billstevejim, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

this is actually pretty good. completely dissimilar to Ween outside of maybe a few tracks on White Pepper. just kind of a lush, upbeat pop album, kinda of intentionally campy, but really catchy and fun

― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

a lush, upbeat pop album, kinda of intentionally campy...

It's an album of Rod McKuen covers. So there you go.

― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 10 May 2012 02:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

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