That Motorik Beat

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As Ned pointed out, the beginning of New Order "Waiting for the Sirens' Call" (the title track) is very motorik/Can.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Drive Somewhere" by The Vulgar Boatmen
Anything off The Good Earth by the Feelies

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

the fall - creep
much wire

f, Monday, 14 February 2005 05:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

chrisma - gott gott elektron

most of their first two records tend towards neu!/la duesseldorf type beats.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

it's been a while since i listened to it, so it might the song wrong, but i think tommy james and the shondells "i think we're alone now" has the motorik beat

Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Shoot Speed/Kill Light by Primal Scream, The First Cut by Embrace.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 14 February 2005 09:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Doors - La Woman
Kraftwerk - Autobahn
Primal Scream - Autobahn 66

M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Spiders (Kidsmoke)" off the last Wilco album.

Another Velvets one would be "Foggy Notion".

haitch (haitch), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

Kasabian - "Reason is Treason"

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

QOTSA - Regular John

DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

Universal Panzies - Krautrock Love Song/Hallowedundgallowed

NickB (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

So how would people characterise the motorik beat? Is it anything more than just a 4/4 signature - in which case, aren't there millions of songs with it?

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

All of La Dusseldorf
Most of Michael Rother but especially "Zyklodrom"
Parts of Harmonia but especially "Monza"

Lots of Glitter Band/ Gary Glitter
Lots of Stooges
Lots of Velvets

Bowie - Red Sails (et al, ad infinitum etc)
Iggy - Funtime
Cabaret Voltaire - Nag Nag Nag (et al)

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

Palomino - John Sims
Theme from Ming Mang Mong - Ming Mang Mong

Hungry Horace, Monday, 14 February 2005 11:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Delgados - Girls Of Valour
Gay Dad - Dimstar/Joy!/Black Ghost/To Earth With Love
most of the new Fischerspooner (hurrah!)
Orbital - Spare Parts Express (maybe)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

'live wire' - ac/dc

cb, Monday, 14 February 2005 11:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

It seems we all have slightly different ideas of what that motorik beat is.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Someone will say Bjork in a minute...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

the human beinz - "nobody but me"

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

lilys - zero population growth ep
levitation - against nature

mzui (mzui), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

That motorik beat is always accompanied by a spectral gauzey fade-in. YES.

(my examples do not all bear this out)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Full Moon in My Pocket" - Swell Maps (and probably other of their songs, too)

Also several Unrest songs, like the Hyrdofoil/Hydroplane ones.

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boredoms - 7 (Boriginal)

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

David Bowie - Station To Station

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Iggy Pop - Sister Midnight

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Donna Summer - I Feel Love

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anything by Thomas Koner
Similarly anything by Lull
Brian Eno's On Land

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

???

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

my rough guide

willem (willem), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

Secret Machines--"Nowhere Again" and "Now Here Is Nowhere." Live though they don't do it--Bonham circa Zep IV song one through the encore.

kaiser motorik, Monday, 14 February 2005 15:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

Tortoise - Djed (Don't know why that one didn't occur to me sooner!)

M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

That motorik beat is always accompanied by a spectral gauzey fade-in. YES.
(my examples do not all bear this out)

-- Alex in Doncaster (alex_fac...) (webmail), February 14th, 2005 2:21 PM. (link)


Like, for instance, "Silver Machine" Hawkwind?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

most things Hamish Kilgour drums on. The Clean's 'Vehicle' is the same beat at varying speeds for the whole record. pretty much, anyway.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jagz Kooner productions and remixes.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

mark otm about hawkwind - their studio stuff esp has some crisp clean motorik, while the space ritual stuff is some hairier/messier kraut-esque drumming. god i fucking love hawkwind.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

There's a track near the end of Dusk at Cubist Castle (I think it's the title track) that fits the bill.

sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 20:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

hawkwind - opa loka. the most motorik non kraut record ever.

whitey - two face.


spencer otm about jagz kooner.

stirmonster, Monday, 14 February 2005 20:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wait! This is getting too scattered! Related but scattered! Definition time!

don, Monday, 14 February 2005 21:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

I have a pretty rigid idea of motorik, so here goes:

4/4 time, basic rock bet, with snare on 2 & 4, HOWEVER, bass drum is playing exactly what the hi-hat does (ie, on each eighth note), except on the beats where the snare hits. It looks like this

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

This is the beat of many Neu songs, including "Hallogallo". I think the bass drum playing on all those eigth notes is what separates motorik from a lot of other regular old 4/4 rock beats (fast, driving or otherwise).

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

whoa, that looked a lot better pre-post.

basically, the b's are supposed to line up w/the h's, and the s's are on 2 and 4. I hate the internet!

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Pumpkins "1979" does not fit, right?

Aaron A., Monday, 14 February 2005 21:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

not according to the definition I'm using above. It almost does, but in the drum figure of "1979", there's a syncopation pattern that de-motorikizes it (and also makes two bars have to pass before completing the figure). One of the things about motorik that makes it "motorik" (or robotic) is that each measure is identical, it doesn't take more than one measure to complete the whole pattern.

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

hows that dleone

chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

nice. i wasn't sure at first, but that fits my mental definition.

sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

from what i can hear the kick falls on every 8th note, including the 2 and 4. just straight ahead pounding. with various snare fills and a crash or two every 4 or 8 measures off that.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Drums On Fire" - Broadcast

losingsoul, Monday, 14 February 2005 22:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jefferson Starship, "Find Your Way Back" (the end of the song)

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

"For Kate I Wait" - Ariel Pink (done with mouth)

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

Telstar Ponies - Lugengeschichte or whatever the heck it was called has this beat but with added flourishes. Basically any non-Deutsche indie song circa 1994-95 with a German title.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Keep 'em coming.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyone mention Quick Canal by Atlas Sound?

Love this track. I also find it touching that Cox was able to persuade one of his idols (Laetitia Sadier) to sing on it.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Blue line Swinger is not motorik, at least until like minute 5.

The Fall's 'Before the Moon Falls' is p motorik: would 'Reformation' count too?

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

The loud version of Big Day Coming by YLT might qualify, can't think what else off the top of my head.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the "motorik beat" is a red herring. A motorik feeling is just as much about what the bass is doing, the actual sound of the drums (dry and tight), limited harmonic movement, and how the guitar, synths, or vocals are floating on top, as it is about the basic drum pattern. You can play that same drum pattern in a way that doesn't sound motorik at all, or you could make a song with a different drum beat that still sounds very motorik.

+1

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've always thought about it in terms of dancing and being able to play off of different instruments instead of being dependent on a changing beat or vocal changes for changing movements
not that it matters, but there you go

game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jumpin jack Flash & Street Fighting Man are kind of motorik. I read a Fall review in the Wire that said the Johnny Burnette Trio's version of "Train kept a Rollin" was motorik too, but I couldn't confirm that.

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, that song is locomotorik

Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I see that Death in Vegas are already represented but for my money 'Hands Around Your Throat' is more representative of the motorik beat than that track that namechecks Rother.

Also, I think there's a place for Radiohead here; in particular Amnesiac b-side 'Cuttooth'.

AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

A few people have mentioned the Gary Glitter beat, but that's a shuffle. Unless there was an actual motorik Gary Glitter song I don't know about, but I'm assuming people mean the R&Rpt2 beat.

wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, too much stomping in that one.

Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

locomotorik

irl lol.

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah that shd be excelisor'd (by someone other than me)

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess I don't understand people's obsession with this term. It's a nice way to describe a few Krautrock bands and bands who were influenced by them, but I don't see why it has to be applied to any song with a driving beat. And I really don't get the connection to songs that predate krautrock like Heroes and Villains.

wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

One of the tracks on Yoko Ono & The Plastic Ono Band has Ringo laying down a pretty motorik groove. I don't have the record to hand. Rhythm section on that album amazing across the board.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

The last 45 seconds or so of Turtle Turtle Up by Four Tet.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's kind of mental, you've got all these jazzy, glitchy drum rolls for about 90 seconds, and then it just falls into motorik loveliness.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Orchestral Manoeuvers in the dark - Electricity

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

was listening to B-52's "Aint it a Shame" and that almost makes the cut, surprisingly...

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

2. [04:37] Velvet Underground - I’m waiting for the man (1967)

Totally disagree with this one. It doesn't have a backbeat at all, just a steady, even pulse on every beat.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah it's not Motorik, but I can see a case for it being proto-Motorik. The insistent evenness I think is the key.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

^yeah I agree with this post. "Waiting for the Man" is too much of an important first step, even though it probably predicts "It's a Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl" more than anything Neu! did

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

contemporary motorik beat: beak, the band of portishead's geoff barrow (btw they have a new album out). somehow i have the impression they bring something new to the table. they are obviously heavily influenced by neu etc, but they have their sound and lots of interesting ideas. the motorik beat is also played by the bass here.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

am0n, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can I nominate this as the post-speeding-down-the-autobahn version of the motorik, very definitely in an unexpected place (the very underrated Francisco's 'Cosmic Beam Experience')?

Soundslike, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

dsb, Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Beak! Bought >> and it is pretty awesome. It is just krauty grooves for the sake of it, seemingly, but oh wow.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 6 September 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^ it is awesome

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Kraftwerk, "Ohm Sweet Ohm"

... could this be deliberate on their part?

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

!

willem, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Portishead - Chase the Tear

anonanon, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2013 10:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Röyskopp, Alpha Male

(close enough)

ledge, Friday, 19 July 2013 13:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Espanto - Rock'n Roll

"I Feel Love" with a motorik beat + fuzz guitars? this is glorious

when skrillex just stood there (unregistered), Thursday, 9 January 2014 04:44 (10 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

andrew m., Monday, 27 January 2014 17:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

yessss

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Monday, 27 January 2014 17:43 (9 months ago) Permalink

The vid's rip doesn't really do it justice. On my copy the drums are so big. Caveman style.

andrew m., Monday, 27 January 2014 17:47 (9 months ago) Permalink


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