Tindersticks : classic or dud

Actually all I was saying was that, back on the night show, it was customarily referred to on air and elsewhere as "The Mark Radcliffe Show". The phrase "Mark and Lard" only came into common use after they went daytime. And yes, I do think their schtick now is pretty cheesy, with an unhealthy professional Northerners' element coming in. Still the only intelligent and clever thing on daytime R1, though.

When you say that Marc Riley has contributed more to music than Radcliffe, do you mean with The Fall (agreed) or with the Creepers (can't comment because I've genuinely never heard them).

Out of interest, Tim, what will you be doing on Wednesday 7th and Thursday 8th March?

No, I don't actually know the difference between parody and pastiche.

i don't know the records at all, but i'd really *really* recommend seeing them live.

i know of: the one with the ballet dnacer on live at bloomsbury curtains that film soundtrack donkeys a simple pleasure the one before simple pleasures

what order did these all come in? my first one was the live album and i only bought curtains which wasnt as good at all.##

'Tindersticks' - '93
'Tinderstick's Second Album' - '95
'Live at Bloomsbury' -'96
'Curtains' - '97
'Donkeys 92-97' - '98
'Simple Pleasures' - '99
'Can Our Love... ' - 2001

I think that's right. They've also done a couple of soundtrack albums as well. And it's all good stuff.

http://www.tindersticks.co.uk/reissues.html

i'm implausibly excited about getting the remastered first album. maybe the 2nd, too, although i already have the bloomsbury set on cd and i never like the 2nd album as much as the first, anyway. but the first album...

I checked the third album and that was nowhere near as good so I just stopped bothering with them.

If they'd released all this bonus material etc. as a boxset then I might well have been tempted (I'm a great big sucker for boxsets at the best of times) but being asked to fork out again for four albums I already own and a Greatest Hits I've already got every track on, to get this stuff just feels like a rip-off.

101's currently cheapest if you're going to buy something else as well, otherwise by the time you've paid a quid for postage & packing it works out the same as Play (£7.99).

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the "old" un-remastered single disc versions of all those albums kicking around extremely cheaply once the new ones come out 'though....

The Bloomsbury Theatre one seems to be the only one that isn't still available in the original version.... if it's that good it might make re-purchasing the 2nd studio album a little more pallatable 'though.

funnily enough the female vocals are by her out of huggy bear, greeham coxon's ex. endearingly nasal.

simple pleasure doesn't sound like the 1st album at all, excepting stuart's very distinctive voice

simple pleasure is their 70s soul album, essentially. lots of philadelphia strings and hi records drum patterns

Lady with the Braid is one of my favourite songs. I'm not sure I'd like any cover of it but I really don't like this one.

I've not got the new album at all (it's the first album by them I've not bought but it has sounded ignorable when I have played online) but I accidentally played the last Stuart A Staples album (I was playing something alphabetically before on my MP3 player) and it sounded incredible/just right.

i guess no one's bumped this thread since the record came out but it's really fantastic imo

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:28 PM

Oh man, it really is! Haven't kept up with their releases in the last decade or so (except for The Waiting Room, of which a cutout was handed to me) but this is gorgeous. I agree that the Staples' vocal loop in the opening track doesn't work (for me) but it turns out there's a Charles Webster (!) Mix that doesn't use the loop and is vastly superior. So I created an album playlist that swaps the original Man Alone with the CW Mix and ends with the CW Dub Mix and that's about perfect

Solo album

https://www.normanrecords.com/records/187737-david-boulter-lovers-walk

^ Liking this a lot on a couple of plays.

Bleak but nice.

It's captured me more than "Yarmouth". That might be words sucking me in a bit.

Tindersticks "Across Six Leap Years" included a couple of re-recordings from Staples' albums and ... some of the tracks here could as happily sit on their albums. That said, its very conceptual (by which I mean there is an over-arching narrative) and personal. It's beautiful.

Found a random compilation I'd made and put it on Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7kSYlZUZL66QSicP4dVPeB

I'm not sure if there was any criteria/rhyme/reason.

A CD-R worth rather than the "Bottle 1, Bottle 2" extravaganza posted further up. I do spend a lot of time on this thread talking to myself, drunk, don't I?

Seems amazing that 1000 copies of the Boulter album haven't just flown out of the shops.

It’s a very good album. I notice Monorail are stocking it too now.

Yeah, that's what made me notice that it hadn't just sold out.

idk I'm a massive Tindersticks fan but I'm not really interested in hearing this since Staples isn't involved.

I'm not absolutely sure how the work is divided (never actually checked the credits) but it is worth hearing.

I've been less keen on Staples' voice on more recent recordings (though I think he's been trying to be creative and do interesting things).

oh? I have to check that out then - what does he do, death metal growls? Belting tenor?

Anyway, there's a tour with orchestra booked for next spring which I'm super looking forward to. The write-up on the website suggests that the sets may have a retrospective feel, which would be welcome. A "career-spanning" compilation is also planned.

Enjoying this tonight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t3iOjLIDPI

I like the bits where the drummer is a bit "Animal from the Muppets". I'm guessing they disliked each other by this point.

I play "Ballad of Tindersticks" a lot. Best song about burn out, I think.

dud

Pondering a "rowdy" Tindersticks play list - "Fast One" and "4:48 Psychosis" being the obvious starting points.

What should be on there?

"Her" off the first record?

"City Sickness"?

whiskey and water could be done in a pretty rowdy style

So far ...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2xkrEf49hQpLCMZyyFoWnZ

gotta say, some beautiful Tindersticks energy on this new Liminanas/Laurent Garnier record (don't be put off by the cover)

https://theliminanas.bandcamp.com/album/de-pel-cula

There's a new David Boulter Xmas-y thing here:

https://claypipemusic.greedbag.com/

There's a lot of red.

New career-spanning box set now up for pre-order:

https://shop.cityslang.com/products/past-imperfect-the-best-of-tindersticks-92-21-4lp-box-set-exclusive-7-inch

There's also an ultra-limited run of 300 clear vinyl copies via Rough Trade.

It's a bit difficult to be very excited about that. And I love Tindersticks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SfAu_MmvEw

An instrumental playlist (draft/early version):

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/20d7vs21rgUxh8vS9fGJjt

Need to go back to the soundtracks with red wine.

Not sure if the recent David Boulter mini-CD has been posted on other threads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwLM-b5kHJI

My Tindersticks Spotify playlists:

Songs for the cat
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7kSYlZUZL66QSicP4dVPeB
Named on the highly twee idea that my cat is happy listening to Tindersticks. A single CD best of.

A Tindersticks Disco
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0bemoNJ96EBMOhClH4ZJ27
The original versions of some songs covered by the Tindersticks interspersed with Tindersticks songs - think I'd originally meant to create a sort of imaginary Tindersticks DJ Kicks but got too drunk. (Curiously, I was pondering what would be the inspiration for their first album songs, the other day).

Bottle 1, Bottle 2
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6qyrg5nOGWRfDofEbvF0fJ
Self-explanatory. Supposed to cover the arc of an evening.

Closing Titles
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/20d7vs21rgUxh8vS9fGJjt
Instrumentals (Could do with being edited to include more soundtrack recordings).

A drunk shouts outside your window
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2xkrEf49hQpLCMZyyFoWnZ
Rowdier tracks!

I was just thinking about the first timr I met their one time manager James Endicott sitting in a van talking to Norman from Boy Hairdresser after the Primal Scream gig that had been Dinosaur (jr)'s London debut because of a Teenage Fanclub t-shirt somebody shared a photo of earlier.
Like just a couple of minutes before I saw the thread revival.

Saw them in the Olympia in Dublin in the late 90s. Do enjoy the records too.

Thanks for the playlists, djh! Been curious about Tindersticks for a while but never checked them out, will have a listen to that cat one when I have a moment

Are there obvious influences on "Her"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS50FPRMiQ8

By which I mean ... If I like this what (non-Tindersticks) music would I enjoy with my bottle of red?

God idk. I love that album so much. Whenever I feel like listening to Nick Cave or The National I mostoften just switch over the Tindersticks instead

Enjoying this, by David Boulter: https://davidboulter.bandcamp.com/album/five-nights-in-maine-soundtrack

A friend asked if I'd make a compilation of what I thought Tindersticks would play on their tour later this year - they've not really followed them after their third or fourth album:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6iU2G4AnPQ16fXelETcfVx

This is based on what they were playing in 2023 ... and doesn't include anything from "Distractions" (which I don't really know) or their new album. Threw in some recent tracks I like. Imagine that they play "Her" or "Marbles" or something as an encore.

Enjoy with red wine.

(As I did).

Another new David Boulter album coming up as well as a Tindersticks album this year.

Does anyone keep up to date with Dickon's projects? Or others?

I thought his music for The Lost Daughter was excellent.