One day, bitches: the future of the Los Angeles Metro

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Yay flying cars! Jetson lifestyle!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

that's beautiful, man

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

It still won't take me to work!

Of course, by the time it's finished, I'll probably be retired.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

i hate the fucking WESTSIDE so much (notice in that old PER map the westside was rural mts w/ most of the traffic going north and south) - the damned Beverly Hills whitey fuckards who keep passing a "no" on letting the metro pass thru their precious gated ghettos to keep them coloreds out...very ironic considering that ONE-FOURTH of the properties in Bev Hills are now owned by Iranians (according to wiki), whose pink stucco mansions are pejoratively called "Persian palaces" - that plus the insanely stupid idea of D'OH! forgetting the La brea Tar Pits when constructing the Red Line going west (which is why it stops at the Wiltern now)

Ned: the Orange line goin to the Valley is supposed to be up by 2007 i think, and the Expo Line goin to Santa Monica from downtown has a projected finish date of 2009. Lets at least try to see them make it to Fairfax. I like how, in order to go to the beach I'd have to go all the way south first to culver city since even in this map nothing goes directly west into the wealthy areas - but they shouldnt get public transport!

as it is right now, with the occasionaly exception of west hollywood i'm pretty content spending most of my life EAST OF LA BREA

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is Fairfax considered "westside"?

the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

also, what is it w/ people in pasadena? they wanted some law that slows the Gold Line down, so now it only ravels TWENTY-FIVE MILES an hour goin to and from from downtown...

um, when i could drive to pasadena in 30 mins or less from hollywood, what is the point of taking the metro there when it'd take me an hour

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

and the most frustrating thing is still how the red line going from here to downtown stops at 1 AM sometimes...everything should be a) 24/7 and b) um, a bit faster than driving

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Fairfax is Hollywood.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

the westside begins at la brea as far as i'm concerned but others say it's la cienega ... that excludes weho, so i'm cool with that. whereever it is, the westsiders should get the metro LAST

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

We don't need your stinkin' metro. We have good jobs and even better cars! Also, hope!

something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

no fairfax is def west hollywood

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

you have more ugly strip malls while we have

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

i really don't understand l.a.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

Stop it with the racism, please. This thread is for train talk only. Thank you.

something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

racism?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

the city of culver city recently had some meetings about approving extending the metro/light rail down exposition and into culver. I guess all of thats pending getting it extended down wilshire, etc.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Fairfax is *not* West Hollywood.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think that's south pasadena that makes the train slow down(they even have a big sign at an intersection that says TRAINS PLEASE BE QUIET or some such nonsense iirc). My job has me going around town from Glendale to Malibu(who gets no love according to the map there, not that they need it) but if it was a simple commute the gold line would be a godsend(office just west of miracle mile)

tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

I always lump Fairfax in with the Mid-Wilshire area ... never West Hollywood.

something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ooh a dodger stadium stop. Methinks there'd be more shootings at games if one was able to get as drunk as possible before a game.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

Fairfax is apparently whatever one most wishes it to be.

Legally, it's West Hollywood from Fountain to Romaine. It's Greater West Hollywood from the hills north of Hollywood Blvd. down to Canter's.

k thx bye

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know a good map of LA city *and* neighborhood boundaries online???

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

I do not consider Canter's to be part of LA.

something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

is the Green Line for real? when will it be groundbroken? complete?

Once the yellow line is completed, I will enroll at Pomona College

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's all that crap they're doing on Santa Monica blvd around Century City?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

They're trying to remedy the Big/Little Santa Monica problem.

something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

racism?! haha thats a picture of Thai Elvis man... who's more worth seeing to me than any beach. someone who's gonna positively stay eeeast

and dude there's huge yellow and bluue sign right at Fairfax that says "City of West Hollywood," but this is funny since most consider the starting line to be La Brea


i just want to know why that map doesn't have anything going from holly & high directly to santa monica & san vicente, if not robertson. how are the gays supposed to do their decadent sinning if they cant take teh tram?

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

they've been digging those century city trenches for YEARS

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think this map is supposed to be realized around 2030, btw =)

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

But that's when I was going to buy my Hummer H4000!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

whenever this happens then Luna will have no excuse to not go on the Green Line down the 'Shaw to get krispy kreme w/ me

that Green Line is going to be very intense, imo

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

what we really, really need - and i think there was some talk about this - is an above-ground trolley line or double-decker "sky bus thing that goes super fast down Wilshire Blvd, all the way from downtown to the beach thru Koreatown, Miracle Mile, Museum Row and Westwood

w/ all the impressive ad historic churches landmarks and buildins it would be a fabulous view and the most beautiful ride in the city. esp w/ our weather is so great

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

awesome, yeah i wonder why San Fran can get shit like that done with MUCH gnarlier terrain to deal with

tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

huge xpost --

I lived East of Fairfax and my address was in the City of West Hollywood.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Westwood village as OF RIGHT NOW:

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

awesome, yeah i wonder why San Fran can get shit like that done with MUCH gnarlier terrain to deal with

- No weird underground pockets of oil to avoid
- Landfill is much easier to dig through
- It's just a wee little town

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

i havent been to that In-n-Out yet...it looks like a major destination

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

xpost re: a Fairfax of the mind

Walter, find me someone who lived in West Hollywood east of Fairfax and I'll find you someone who lived between Fountain and Romaine, east of La Brea.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Roger, are you looking at a map? Is it online?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Close. It was right around the corner from Astro Burger.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

here's a map

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

thanks?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

here are some maps Spencer

FROM http://artscenecal.com/Maps/WH.html


a map from Whole Foods on Fairfax which proves their addy is Weho

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

i have friends who live between la brea and fairfax and their address is west hollywood...i can show you their mail at the next FAP

don't you just see how all the buildings get more gay and colorful as soon as you go west of la brea? it's all WEHO. fairfax is inarguably weho

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

Vik, I know the streets, I want a boundary map. The third one is ok.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

My map was prettier.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

that first map is showin a listing of all the art galleries on la brea, i think. there are even more in culver city now its exploding

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

I always think of Fairfax as near Fairfax and Melrose (and the parts south of that).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like how the Orange line has no stops between Olympic Blvd. and Long Beach Blvd.

("Hold my hand honey.. this is the 'ghetto' they talk about on the news, where shootings happen.")

donut e-goo (donut), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

or they could use that $10 million to actually help fund the subway

get bent, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 01:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

Jesus fucking christ

Update: Subway to Sea Still Could Go Up For November Vote
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, by Dakota
First, an aide to one of the County Supervisors tells LA Observed the LA Times "played the story wrong" regarding the board's failure today to back that proposed sales tax to fund the Subway to Sea. For those just catching up, it was reported today that the board voted not to back a sales tax that would help fund numerous transit projects, including the planned Subway to the Sea. But the aide tells LAObserved: "Voters WILL still vote on the sales tax issue. It will just be a separate ballot that voters will get during the same election." "This was all clearly explained at the meeting today." The headline and story on the home page of the Los Angeles Times remains, but another reporter, Steve Hymon, has updated his blog post to add this paragraph: "The supervisors’ failure to muster a simple majority to place the proposal on the Nov. 4 ballot does not kill the measure, but makes it more complicated and more costly. If the Legislature gives its blessing — a bill to authorize the measure goes before a key committee Thursday — county election officials would create a separate “conditional” ballot that general election voters would also consider." The office of dissenting Supervisor Gloria Molina backed that up, telling Curbed that the decision to have a second ballot is currently being hammered out. (The Daily News' story is out: "Still, the 3-2 vote won't stop it from going before voters Nov. 4 - but now the county will have to spend up to $3 million to print it on a separate ballot."

Molina's press deputy, Roxane Marquez added: "The Board did not approve of [the sales tax] being on the same ballot [as the one with the other initiatives]... The Board of Supervisors is not going to rubber stamp a decision because they feel they don't have a choice." Marquez said Molina did not approve of how the ballot initiative was put together, calling it "backroom dealings." When asked if this was political bickering, she said that "one person's bickering is another person's negotiating."

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Way to go GloMo! Cost the tax payers more money and make the ballot more confusing, so you can grandstand. You are a true public servant

Comment #1, left at 08/05/08 04:48 PM.
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I've said it so many times, even I am tired of hearing myself. For an economy the size and power of Los Angeles County to be run by only 5 people verges on criminal.

We should absolutely expand the LA County Board of Supervisors to at least 9 if not 15. LA CITY has 15 councilmembers, fer cryin out loud. The current concentration is a recipe for patronage, corruption and neglect. THATS something that should be on the ballot come November...and every election till it's done.

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Gloria is doing this because she's still mad Zev killed her Red Line Eastside expansion. Fuck her and Antonobitch - but I expected nothing better from him or the other Republican...

...seriously, how do we get away from the influence of these egregious, narrow-minded assholes? He is always re-elected since he represents the suburbs and the valleys, and they of course are NIMBY-everything ..Antonobitch has destroyed the county for decades

He has been ruining us since 1980. I think his re-election is again this year and it's time to at least vote him out

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

This thing is definitely going to get killed if it's on a separate ballot. I mean how is it ever going to get the 2/3rds it needs....50% maybe, but 2/3rds... tragic

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Mayor responds to today's sales tax vote

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa just released this letter he's sending to the County Board of Supervisors, who earlier today refused to put the half-cent sales tax for transit and road projects on the November ballot:

Honorable Supervisors:

I am writing to urge you to reconsider your vote today regarding the countywide
half cent transportation sales tax approved for the November 4, 2008 ballot by
the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) Board of
Directors last month. Specifically, I am urging that you place the MTA measure
on a consolidated ballot on November 4, 2008.

There is simply no legitimate basis for failing to consolidate the November ballot.
No matter how you cut it, the taxpayers and voters will be the ultimate losers if
the Board refuses to place the MTA measure on the general election ballot.

Either the taxpayers will be stuck with costly legal bills resulting from the MTA's
litigation against the County on this matter, or the taxpayers will be on the hook
for an additional $3 million required to run a confusing dual-ballot election in
November - which would create a logistical nightmare certain to disenfranchise
untold thousands of County voters.

I think we all agree that our long-term transportation needs require significant
public investment in mass transit alternatives. The MTA sales tax measure is a
down payment toward the many transit and highway improvements this County
needs to support our economy, our environment, the needs of the transit
dependent and an overall high quality of life for the people we represent.

The people of Los Angeles County should have the right to decide for
themselves whether they want to invest in their future. And the most transparent
and cost-effective way to do that is through a consolidated November 4, 2008
ballot.

I am optimistic that you will reconsider your vote and consolidate the MTA
measure with November's general election ballot.

Sincerely,

ANTONIO R. VILLARAIGOSA
Mayor

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/bott...yor-respo.html

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Okay so she abstained...for what? To pout that the Eastside is getting rejected ? Cry me a river

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

In an unexpected move that was a 3-2 vote, the LA County Board of Supervisors rejected putting the sales tax increase on November's ballot. Michael Antonovich and Don Knabe voted against the measure with Gloria Molina abstaining.

"Talk about opponents shooting themselves in the foot: With no sale tax there's no Eastside extension past Atlantic for Gloria Molina, no Foothill Gold Line for John Fasana and Mike Antonovich, and no increase in operating funding for the BRU's supporters," said green blogger Darrell Clarke, who expanded his thoughts on a post, in an e-mail to LAist.

Molina, who abstained said the proposal is a "nice concocted scheme... And every single and every step of the way it has made arrangements at how they were going to get more for one side of town versus the other side." She, who represents communities around East LA, is referring to the Westside's "Subway to the Sea" and Expo Line Phase II projects.

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

Okay let's look at the childish reasons here.

"Little choo-choo," did she really say that?

Board of Supervisors votes against putting transit sales tax on ballot
Updated: 3:50 p.m.

Illustrating how politically difficult it is to tackle traffic in Los Angeles County, transportation officials were caught by surprise today when the Board of Supervisors failed to back a proposed sales tax increase that may raise up to $40 billion for road and transportation projects.

The supervisors’ failure to muster a simple majority to place the proposal on the Nov. 4 ballot does not kill the measure, but makes it more complicated and more costly. If the Legislature gives its blessing — a bill to authorize the measure goes before a key committee Thursday — county election officials would create a separate “conditional” ballot that general election voters would also consider.

But even the progress of that bill has been slowed by squabbling among state lawmakers who want more of the tax money to pay for work in their districts, since construction could trigger millions of dollars in jobs and development.

East Los Angeles officials want more for extending light rail lines east of downtown; west Los Angeles officials want to keep the focus on relieving congestion on the Westside and starting the so-called subway to the sea.

With gas prices soaring and mass transit ridership up, the sales tax effort has been gaining steam and last month was approved by the board of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. Within minutes of the supervisors' vote today, MTA chief executive Roger Snoble said the agency would sue the Board of Supervisors to force the sales tax onto the regular ballot.

"I'm in the process of hiring outside counsel because we can't hire county counsel because they would have a conflict," Snoble said. "We have a fairly decent chance of going into court and getting that reversed."

Many politicians have hailed the sales tax as the county's best shot at getting a $30-billion to $40-billion pot of money that is controlled locally. Budget woes, the economy and the Iraq war have made it difficult to get state or federal funding of that magnitude in recent years, and sales tax backers argue that a tax hike is the surest way to secure projects such as a subway, the Expo Line to Santa Monica and an extension of the Gold Line from Pasadena deeper into the San Gabriel Valley.

The 13-member Metro board voted in July to put the sales tax on the ballot. All five supervisors sit on the Metro board, and Snoble said that his understanding of the law is that the Supervisors vote today was largely procedural.

In particular, he said, the law requires the Board of Supervisors to examine the ballot and vote against placing an item on it if there is a physical issue with the ballot -- for example, that it doesn't fit.

"I'm already looking at this thing costing a whole lot of money, and to add more money, to me, it's really hurtful," Snoble said.

The problem has been politics. Local transportation officials have said that even $40 billion is not nearly enough to build all the projects that should have been built long ago or ones needed in the future. Complicating matters, it is well known that politicians sometimes seek transit projects because of the construction jobs, development and influence they generate.

Another issue has been legislation concerning the proposed sales tax. Officials at local, state and federal levels have all been trying to get language inserted that ensures their districts not only get projects but also see them funded robustly and in a timely manner.

That, in particular, was the problem three of the supervisors had with the sales tax: They believed that the money was distributed unfairly and that the MTA came up with a poor spending plan that favored project such as the subway on the Westside over other rail lines in the county.

"But the way it was done at the MTA certainly wasn't by any way kind of a fair process of let's be fair to the voters," said Supervisor Gloria Molina, who abstained. "It was a nice concocted scheme that went on. And every single and every step of the way it has made arrangements at how they were going to get more for one side of town versus the other side."

She later added: "It's a very funny way this little choo-choo is getting on the ballot."

Supervisor Mike Antonovich said that the money should be split up on a per capita basis. He, too, complained that money for some projects -- such as $1 billion earmarked for a mass transit project along the 405 through the Sepulveda Pass -- will ultimately be diverted to pay for the costly subway.

Supervisor Don Knabe, who portrays himself as a fiscal conservative, initially said that although he would vote to put the sales tax on the ballot, he wasn't for it -- but didn't think taxpayers should foot the bill for a symbolic vote. He quickly reversed course and voted against the sales tax.

Later, in an interview, Knabe said that he expects the MTA to successfully sue to place the tax measure on the existing ballot. Still, he said the supervisors' decision would reap benefits.

"I think it got everybody's attention that there is an equity issue here," Knabe said. "It's always a real dogfight to get a fair share of the dollars east of the 110 Freeway."

Knabe was absent for the MTA board vote last month because he was attending a celebratory event for the birth of his first grandson.

Transit advocates were not pleased.

"What a fiasco of childish parochial grandstanding," wrote Dana Gabbard, of the Southern California Transit Advocates, on a Times comment board. "...We desperately need leadership in this region, and it is obvious that isn't what we are getting from the Supervisors."

The Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce also issued a statement denouncing the vote -- even though the Chamber has yet to take an official position on the sales tax.

“Nearly every workday begins with a discussion about traffic,” said Gary Toebben, the president and CEO. “Voters should be allowed to consider all potential solutions including a half-cent sales tax increase to fund transportation projects.”

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who chairs the MTA board and said that he has been working to build a coalition for the sales tax, had not commented on the supervisors' vote as of early this afternoon.

Even more surprising, the vote came after county attorneys told the board that the sales tax would still go forward -- but now on a separate ballot than the rest of the general election. That move would cost taxpayers an additional $2 million to $3 million, said county officials.

In addition, county election officials said that a separate ballot would require a separate mailing of ballots to voters and that it's likely the separate ballots would be counted well after the general election ballots.

-- Steve Hymon and Garrett Therolf

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 11:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

L.A. County measures Precincts reporting: 23.0 %

R: Transit sales tax Yes 65.7% No 34.3%

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 06:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Holy hell, there's hope yet. (Or is there -- does it have to be a simple majority or two thirds? I actually regretted being unable to vote for that!)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 06:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

it needs 2/3rds- again highlighting how backwards california is (why couldnt it need a majority and the gay ban need 66%?)

i am hopeful about this though. it would definitely work towards funding the westside extension - whether it's just the Purple Line down Wilshire, or the Red Line too which might be going down Santa Monica Blvd to meet Purple past Century City (it's kind of pending on this vote)

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 06:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

which is the the republicans and pandering democratic retards like county sup Gloria Molina were opposing it - on the "unfairness" principle. if anything's unfair, it's how little public t. the westside has ever gotten! (largely their own fault, but still)

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 06:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

*which is WHY the

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 06:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Prop 1A is leading also... http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-2008election-california-results,0,1293859.htmlstory?view=8&tab=0&fnum=0

I heart Alpine County and it's goofy rural Sierra ways. A high speed rail line will NEVER show up in downtown Markleeville, but they'll vote for it anyway.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 07:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Good on 1A, I was hoping for that one.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 07:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Eric Garcetti is on local nbc and talking about why Measure R will pass; sigh he's so dreamy. i can't wait until he's mayor

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 07:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

L.A. County measures
R: Transit sales tax Yes 66.2% No 33.8% Precincts reporting: 37.0%

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 07:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just need 0.4 more to pass!

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 07:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Eric Garcetti is on local nbc and talking about why Measure R will pass; sigh he's so dreamy. i can't wait until he's mayor

^^^

electro college (get bent), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 07:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

measure R currently at 66.67%! we did it!

electro college (get bent), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

:) ;-) :P

2 out of my 3 election dreams came thru!!!

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm so glad. it's really a comprehensive, impressive plan. all the controversy probably made it stronger.

electro college (get bent), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

has anyone else heard the rumor that e. garcetti is gay (closeted obviously)? a friend knows him fairly well and he told me that he has strong suspicions
(obligatory "not that there's anything wrong with that.....")

velko, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

*shrug*

electro college (get bent), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

he's still dreamy

electro college (get bent), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

YES on Jody's post - an unprecedented plan on this level - and despite the budget shortfalls, at least this $ that's being allocated will directly go to the westside (Wilshire leg) expansion rather than get squandered away on that lol route to Ontario the Gold Line/SGV advocates were clamoring for... on a civic level, this seemed improbable but now that it's happened it's truly incredibly good news for the city. Assemblyman Mike Feuer really deserves credit for getting it going

if this didn't pass likely nothing would be built for 30 years and Expo Line would be stalled..
this is better than nothing, but a good first step:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-roadsage30-2008oct30,0,5950126,full.story

So how far does $4.1 billion get the subway?

The MTA says that could be enough to extend the line from its terminus at Wilshire Boulevard and Western Avenue to Westwood. The route hasn't been decided, but a recent MTA study recommended that the subway follow Wilshire to Beverly Hills, swing south to Century City and then north to Westwood

and the most important part, considering what Sacramento did to us in 2007:
Can the Legislature raid Measure R funds?

No. The money would belong to Los Angeles County. The Legislature can, however, continue to keep gasoline sales tax money that Sacramento is supposed to send back to counties.

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

only reason i brought it up is because i'm hearing a lot about him re: bigger offices and just wondering if there's a "buzz" out there or if my friend is full of shit

velko, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

i hope he IS gay, defeats all stupid marriage bans after wedding me, and becomes gayvernor

Vichitravirya_XI, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 08:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

yea cali hsr:))))))))

jergins, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 09:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

and the most frustrating thing is still how the red line going from here to downtown stops at 1 AM sometimes...everything should be a) 24/7 and b) um, a bit faster than driving
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:55 (4 years ago)

and the ugly girls, too (Tape Store), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

this should be opening real soon (i walked past the soon-to-be "little tokyo/arts district" station a few weeks ago and it looked great):

http://www.metro.net/projects_studies/eastside/default.htm

Garbanzo (get bent), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

Go Gold Line Go!

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 21:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

Excellent.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 21:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

There will be peace in the Middle East before the 710 freeway will be completed.

Bill restoring South Pasadena’s power to block surface 710 Fwy. extension advances

One battle in the war over the proposed extension of the Long Beach (710) Freeway may soon be over. A bill by Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles) to restore South Pasadena’s power to block a surface freeway through town has passed in the Assembly and is awaiting action in the Senate.

South Pasadena, along with Glendale, La Cañada Flintridge and other nearby communities, is opposed to an extension of the 710 Freeway from its Alhambra terminus to the Foothill (210) Freeway.

Proponents say the link is needed to speed truck traffic from the Port of Los Angeles to inland transportation hubs. Area residents are concerned about construction disruption, traffic, air pollution and costs for the long-planned but never-funded project. South Pasadena is particularly concerned, as the shortest route connecting the 710 and 210 freeways is a 4.5-mile course through the city.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 10 June 2011 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Someone check the temperature in Hell please?

SOUTH PASADENA - The City Council voted Wednesday to ease its long- standing opposition to any and all extensions of the 710 Freeway.

The city will now agree to review the environmental report of alternate extension routes, such as underground or light-rail alternatives. The city has been opposed to any extension for more than 60 years.

The vote clears the way for a possible Assembly bill that would give South Pasadena negotiating power with Caltrans.

"It's a step toward working with the surrounding communities," Mayor Mike Ten said. "Now it's up to the surrounding communities to take steps towards working with us."

Officials voted to rescind Resolution 7147, which the council passed in February. The resolution strictly defined the city's stance as opposed to any and all extensions of the 710 Freeway.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 11 July 2011 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

buzza, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

METHANE!!!!!

buzza, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Methane gas, toxic chemicals and teenagers don't mix. But this dangerous combination is on the verge of exploding at Beverly High, turning the school into a mega-disaster."

buzza, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

New ‘under construction’ map for Metro Rail debuts:
http://thesource.metro.net/2013/06/13/new-under-construction-map-for-metro-rail-debuts/

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 14 June 2013 01:52 (1 year ago) Permalink


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