Do we have a PAZZ AND JOB 2009 thread yet?

would people who like those records really choose not to vote for them because of ILX stigma? if so that's pretty fucked up.

― some dude, Sunday, 24 January 2010 00:43 (18 hours ago)

my ballot was probably somewhat influenced by this. not that i'm shy to vote for them because of people hating on them, but more that even though i love GADY a lot (not huge on P) i voted largely for albums that i was exposed to through ilm this year, and not so much other places. i think a lot of people who post as little as i do still vote in the poll, and i do feel a certain responsibility not to obscure the results away from being representative of the albums that were actually a big deal here. it would be kind of lame if dozens of lurkers all voted GAPDY and then those ended up all being top ten, since they're not all necessarily albums that were widely loved by the actively posting crowd. i still voted dirty projectors, and nominated a few albums that i'm sure no one else voted for, but there was definitely an element of strategy to my ballot.

kornrulez supports one of my claims that people on here dont' like it for my reason #1, they don't like the bio or how they look. Wimpy is an obnoxious reason to hate a band, but it's still a reason.

Also, the "I loved yellow house" but couldn't motivate to listen to the new one is strange to me. Not sure I follow, if You love an album wouldnt' you want to check out the latest one?
Knee jerk reaction to hype/exposure if you ask me. People on here are too self aware.

how they look.

If the hair's wrong, I am more skeptical, sure.

hey, less pop garbage than usual this year, huh? good work, kidz.

how many haven't you heard!?

tops is Mt Goats at #80!

pissed jeans?

saw em, didn't hear the record (ditto Grizzly Bear & YLT)

& godawful Wilco

kornrulez supports one of my claims ...they don't like the bio or how they look.

I'm sure their bio is dynamite stuff. And no doubt they're all handsome young lads. But in refute to your presumptuous (some would say bratty) assumption, I'm basing my opinion on how they sound.

I'm about a week late to this, but re: the relative size of Pfork to other sites/blogs: here are some approximate monthly stats for some of the more well-known sites:

(Audience/Pageviews)
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Pitchfork: 1,500,000 / 30,000,000
Hypem: 1,300,000 / 12,000,000
GVSB: 85,000 / 485,000
Fluxblog: 17,000 / 50,000
99.9% of remaining blogs: way lower

Stereogum keeps traffic data private, ditto for Brooklyn Vegan, but I estimate those at about:

Stereogum: 1,250,000 / 6,000,000
Brooklynvegan: 750,000 / 4,500,000

Catbird, where'd you get those numbers from?

http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/pitchfork-editor-takes-public-forum-defend-its-greatness-i-think-you-underestimate-how-much-bigger-we-are/

wtf

Music critics Chuck Eddy, Christopher Weingarten, Maura Johnson, Scott Seward, Ned Raggett and others offered their assessments of the poll

...I did?

Go nuts.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:41 PM

^^

Now the whole internet knows how much Ned loves polls!

Thrills.

@ekaloudis, a combination of Quantcast data and cross-referencing/relative size data from other public data sources (Compete, et. al.)

P&J parallel: 2009 vs 1990

The-Dream = Guy

Maxwell = Neville Bros

not sure what you mean by "parallel". the-dream and max did considerably better in 2009 than those two in 1990, and the Nevilles had a top 5 p'n'j album the year before.

just that they filled v similar niches

i guess, though the neville brothers were far more of a critics band, with little to no pop/r&b chart action

Roots-rock-type voters way more likely to go for Nevilles than Maxwell - no comparison at all, as far as I can tell.

Somebody speculated, somewhere, that since the voting instructions for the first time this year didn't spell out the 15-14-13-12-11-9-8-7-6-5 weighting pattern, there would be a lot more unweighted 10-points-each album ballots. This didn't turn out to be the case, but I was waiting for a minor display-bug in the stats software to get fixed before adding the point-pattern breakdown to my list of slices. It's there now, for anybody really interested in numbers:

Point Patterns

Thanks for reading my blog, Scott & Christopher ;-)