my point is that people might be more forgiving of someone using "4/4 beats" if they were being nice when they used it. don't mean to pile on or anything - just hoping to help clear that up for future reference.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks. i'll be more judicious with my use of "ugh". Inflamatory rhetoric, that.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Will you lot fuck off out of my thread. I really really love this record and this pathetic pedantry is harshing my considerable buzz.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Serious question, Granny - did you listen to this yet? What did you think? I had a downer on "4/4"s too for a few years back when all I listened to was jungle/dnb but this album is pretty far from being Deadmau5 in its use of kick drums (nothing wrong with dm5, but he's just whomp-whomp-whomp-whomp on every track, which I sense is where your dislike lies?).
― Bill A, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
how long is this album, it feels like it is over v. quick
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
47.12 according to the streaming version, I know what you mean though - I had it on at work the other day and it just zipped by.
― Bill A, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
similar vibe to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1l4pDXbkic
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta say, this makes great software testing music.
(must be the 4/4 beats)
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
...i didn't really like the cast in Rounders (besides Matt Damon), but I liked all of the folktronica elements that they tried to employ. Kieran has stated that this album was inspired by his DJ club nights; so it's no surprise to hear the four on four beats. There's no doubt that Kieran has talent, producing alot of his stuff with a very basic setup/pc and audiomulch. His real skill is in the assembly of his samples, which is still evident here/however the overall result feels less accomplished, perhaps because of the disappearance of the jazz inspired drum flourishes. I was hoping to find some of the zaniness of the Steve Reid stuff mixed with the usual sublime fout-tet melodic arrangements - this album at this stage in his career doesn't sound very inventive.
my four tet album/ep rankings:
1. Rounders2. Pause3. Everything Ecstatic4. Remixes5. Dialogue6. There is Love in You7. Ringer
― tin cub, Sunday, 24 January 2010 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link
jazz inspired drum flourishes
i haven't listened to rounders in ages, but i think this is what made it so special.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 24 January 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
ok dude, you're smarter than me, you're funnier than me, you're pretty much my superior in every way. now get the fuck over yourself.― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, January 22, 2010 2:15 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, January 22, 2010 2:15 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you forgot "faster"
― mage pit laceration (gbx), Sunday, 24 January 2010 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
prolly has a better diet
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 24 January 2010 11:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey everyone for serious, a really fast and easy way to refer to four on the floor without looking silly is "4X4". Please note in yr diary granny.
― Tim F, Sunday, 24 January 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
ARGH PITCHFORK REVIEW USES PHRASE "STEADY MIDTEMPO 4/4 KICK" ARGH DOESN'T HE KNOW???!!!
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13861-there-is-love-in-you/
it is in 4/4, this is true
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
That was the first time I read that he went to school with Burial. Would like to see that class picture.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 25 January 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, he went to the same school AS Burial; I doubt they were there at the same time (see also Hot Chip, The XX - all alumni of the same school).
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Burial was in the year above Hot Chip and all of Fridge were in the year above that. From a Hot Chip interview I did around the last album.
Joe: "Every couple of weeks on a Friday lunchtime I’d get people to perform different yhings. Sometimes it would be poetry or music. Kieran played a half-hour improvised guitar piece one week. Adem actually ran it the year before me. We used to go and see Fridge. I probably saw them eight or nine times. I guess that gave us a lot of udnerstanding of the routes that bands can take."Alexis: "They were the first band of people we knew who’d got a record deal. They were straight out of sixth form. For a while all I thought of was we should make music together and try to get someone to release it, like what happened to Fridge."
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Looking at the transcript again, it seems that members of So Solid Crew, the Maccabees, Trencher and the Elysian Quartet were all there around the same time. Must be quite a music dept.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Muse's bassist was the year above porn star Layla Jade at my school (Bellamy and the drummer were the year above that); almost as good.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
That's quite a fucking school talent show.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Frankly I'm surprised no one's made a Four/Four Tet joke at this point.
― EDB, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't really heard that much by this guy (strange by my standards). Since when did he change from a early-thousands "folktronica" also ran to the most namechecked producer in the land?
― dog latin, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Also ran? Didn't he basically invent it? The first time I heard the word was in connection with his stuff.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
really been enjoying going back to rounds & everything ecstatic this week
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I should clarify that every early-thousands "folktronica" geezer was an also-ran back then.
― dog latin, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
the most namechecked producer in the land
just how is this the case? he's always had the same profile
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ he's always been highly respected and sold a decent number of records.
― jed_, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
love this record more than any of his others btw.
― jed_, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel like the thing he got out of the steve reid collab was learning how to do less
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
dog latin why don't you listen to his music first
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
guys I think you mean "Four on the Floor Tet"
― 26 Mixes Focaccia (Stevie D), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
two elephants and a cymbal
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
this shit sounds pretty controversial
― you forgot what a hardcore blogger is (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
its got a track that samples cassie
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Exasperation @ doglatin.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
but it's just so easy to imagine this music in commercials or in cheesy bars with way overpriced drinks.
Can we PLEASE put a moratorium on this lazy, overused, faux-class-based rhetorical jab? Of all the strawmen in the world that are just begging to be doused with gasoline and set alight...
― pshrbrn, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I must say that comment did annoy me but I let it fly cos I usually like Jordan.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i used to play jazz gigs at this one bar all the time, and they would always, always have some kind of tasteful, world-y electronic music on. i LIKE tasteful, world-y electronic music, but the whole vibe nearly ruined some of the good shit (cinematic orchestra, amon tobin, etc.) for me.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
and now it's sort of a personal yardstick for me, like "can i hear it being played at this bar, or does it have too much edge for that?"
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
you used to play gigs there
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
See, Cinematic Orchestra, to me, are exactly the kind of boring, played-in-the-arts-centre stuff you seem to be bemoaning - whereas Four Tet, and OH GOD THIS ALBUM WHICH I LOVE SO MUCH is what I take home with me clutched to my chest and play and play and play for myself.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
It initially struck me that Steely Dan made music for proto-yuppies who hung out in Woody Allen-ish Upper West Side bars with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers who spent their time going to wine- tastings and earnestly discussing the aesthetic merits of duck decoys as a decorative flourish.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, June 2, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Steely Dan = Highly literate, xenophobic musos with unapologetic jazz leanings and studio know-how, making music designed for Manhattan divorcee bars and aesthetes in corduroy blazers.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
It's still music for wine & cheese afficianados who wear patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, June 4, 2004 9:08 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Masturbatory coffee-table jazz-rock noodlery for people with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers hanging out in wine bars.
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:44 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Steely Dan have always been awful, wine-bar, patches-on-the-elbows-of-your-corduroy-blazer CRAP.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, May 6, 2008 2:09 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
This isn't world-y electronic music; it's blissful end-of-the-night house, or end-of-the-breakwater ambient, or middle-of-the-city techno, or...
xpost, hahaha
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
gotta work. i still play there, just not as much.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
…it's rounds, not rounders, right?
― CATBEAST!! (Z S), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
THANK YOU!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
end-of-the-breakwater ambient
Somehow I read that as "windbreaker ambient," which given the pouring rain here on Kauai today, and the way it fits nicely with the new Four Tet, seems like a great description. I'm gonna start using it, I think...
― pshrbrn, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm happy with that.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link