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I was joking. I've heard that Albini is actually a pretty nice guy if you meet him. It was more how he usually comes across in interviews that I was talking about.

Doran, Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome video!! wonder if uffizi tours with 'em.

Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

This will be messy:
http://www.atpfestival.com/events/shellacny.php

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Noon! I can see lots of people buying tickets for that and not making it.

kraudive, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Coming to my hood. Still worth seeing live?

uhhhhhh (admrl), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

yes! (if you like shellac)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Saw the 20th anniversary show in Minneapolis over the weekend. It was great.

your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

line-up for their ATP this December currently looking great:

Shellac Of North America
Neurosis
Wire
Mission of Burma
Oxbow
Nina Nastasia
Melt Banana
The Ex + Brass Unbound
Mono
Shannon Wright
Zeni Geva
Arcwelder
Scrawl
Uzeda
Bottomless Pit
Prinzhorn Dance School
Three Second Kiss
Pinebender
Red Fang
The Membranes
Buke and Gase
Dead Rider
Helen Money
Bear Claw
ALiX
STNNNG
+ more TBC

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

so did i mh! had a blast....

btw STNNNG marks the first time a participant in ILX Pre-Covers LULU makes an appearance at ATP

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Little Dog" is coming to the UK!

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

I wasn't quite in the right headspace for STNNNG when they were on, but I think that's more due to me than anything about the band! I was kind of thrown off by a lot of things, having just been in a car and then getting dinner having a lot to do with it.

your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

I need to give their post-At Action Park catalogue another chance

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

what they need to do is release some sort of definitive amazing live album.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

“Dude Incredible”
One word: “monkeys”

It’s about the group dynamics of trying to get something done with a group of people. Somebody ends up having to behave like a ringleader and then there’s debate and all of the counties have to be heard from and then, eventually, there’s a move where everybody’s suitably motivated and you go off and do something. But along the way there are circumstances and ultimately you get to a resolution where you complete your enterprise or whatever.

“Compliant”
One word: “compulsive”

The text of the song is an abstraction that Bob came up with of the things that someone who is suffering obsessive compulsive disorder has to do just to get through his day. He has to make sure certain rituals are performed in order to satisfy that obsession. It’s called “Compliant” because that’s the shorthand for “OCD compliant.”

“You Came In Me”
One word: “intercourse”

It’s a fairly straightforward song about sexual intercourse.

“Riding Bikes”
One word: “vandalism”

“Riding Bikes” is in the context of children or adolescents riding bikes, where it’s a mindset and an activity put together. Like, you and your friends go riding bikes and that implies a certain degree of intimacy or closeness with your friends. You’re not just riding bikes, you’re having adventures, you’re breaking things, you’re stealing things, you’re causing minor vandalism — all that sort of stuff.

“All the Surveyors”
One word: “survey”

We first got into a surveyor kick when, I can’t remember if it was Bob or me, we noticed that quite a few of the founding fathers of our country, the United States of America — your neighbour to the South — were in fact, surveyors. Meaning that they took a chain and a pole and paced off the physical dimensions of our new country. They physically measured the place they were living in and that was part of their definition of where they were living. How much more could the borders of that place mean to you and its identity as a nation than that you had physically measured it?

A lot of the founding fathers were surveyors, including George Washington. But if you think of the word “survey,” that means that you’re assessing something from a distance and measuring it. There are a lot of circumstances where there’s an external observer surveying what’s going on. It doesn’t even necessarily have to be a person these days. It could be a satellite or a drone or a surveillance camera.

“The People’s Microphone”
One word: “altogether”

That’s an instrumental song. The subject matter of the song doesn’t really exist, because it’s a musical motif only. But it was named after the practice that was revived during the Occupy Wall Street and Occupy other places movement. When someone wanted to address the whole of the occupation, obviously you couldn’t be heard over a large distance, so the whole assembly made a social contract that, whatever this person said from the podium, they would all repeat it in sync in a loud voice so that people behind them could hear it. That construction was called “the people’s microphone.” I think that was an ingenious invention.

I started to think also about its use as a consensus-building tool, If you hear yourself in your own voice, it forces you to consider the veracity of the thing that you’re saying because you don’t want to be repeating a lie in a loud voice. So everyone who has convinced themselves to be a conduit in that situation is, by the process of repeating the thing that they are amplifying, a kind of a filter for its veracity. And then it forces them to internalize that thought because they have to evaluate it and it could be conceived of as a rote thing but, because of the way we all behave with respect to speech and language, it isn’t. So, I was fascinated by that and I admire it as a technique to solve the problem of being heard in a crowd. And I’ll be honest, I felt like I missed something by not participating in any of these people’s microphone exchanges during the Occupy movement.

“Gary”
One word: “Indiana.”

It’s about the steel magnate for whom the town of Gary, IN, is named. Most of the lyrics for that song are taken from a book of labour and communist folk songs. It’s called The Big Red Songbook. There’s a song, the lyrics to which were written by T-Bone Slim, and they were in that book and the song is called ‘Gary’ and it’s about Gary, IN, and its namesake.

“Mayor/Surveyor”
One word: “pun.”

That’s another instrumental, based on a little guitar motif. Going back to the founding fathers and surveyor business, to qualify as a politician or statesman at the beginning of this country’s existence, you had to have a very tangible relationship with the country. And now, basically any asshole who wants to can be a politician. We thought it would be nice to revive the idea that in order to be a public servant, you would’ve had to have had some intimate relationship with the place you were trying to govern.

“Surveyor”
One word: “snappy.”

It’s a very snappy song. Quick tempo. And it has a literal relationship with the founding fathers and their work as surveyors in that the tools of the trade are mentioned by name and there’s a quotation by George Washington at the end that Bob recites where Washington describes how the lack of maps is impeding progress.

take that, bono and the edge

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

I just received an email from Touch & Go stating that my copy is now in the mail. STOKED.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

Didn't pre-order, but kind of wish I did cuz it sounds like folks in some Midwest spots have already received it.

Odd to think that after waiting 7 yrs I can't wait a few more days!

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

Really do not have high hopes

they have become patchier with every album imo....which is a shame, the basic sound of the band is so good

Master of Treacle, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

You're probably right. I just keep hoping...

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

Excellent Italian Greyhound is only a slight dip, the previous three are all equally excellent. And when I saw them a few months ago they were the best they'd ever been.

nate woolls, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

He is such a rigid, miserable, boring fucker. I loved BB when I was a kid and I liked Rapeman and At Action Park, but everything he has done since leaves me cold. It is like watching a reanimated corpse from the 80's still twitching through the motions and wearing a 70's "disco sucks" badge, file next to Oasis.

xelab, Friday, 12 September 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Hey it's Morrissey!

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 12 September 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

He is almost that bad unfortunately!

xelab, Friday, 12 September 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

Shellac are one of the greatest live rock bands ever. I've probably seen them more than any other rock band and never seen them do a bad show. Action Park is one of my all time favourite albums but I'm not massively partisan about anything else they've done. However, it's not about the albums is it? They've said, ad nauseum, that the albums are only a snapshot of where they're at, at a particular moment in time. The real arena to appreciate them… if you're geographically lucky enough, I guess… is live.

Doran, Friday, 12 September 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link

shellac and the grateful dead both

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 September 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

I mean, its ok...hes done well enough - Atomizer, SAF, Steak and Black Onions, At Action Park, the Wingwalker 7"

that's a good haul

Master of Treacle, Friday, 12 September 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

Shellac's records are pretty consistently interesting imo

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 13 September 2014 01:22 (nine years ago) link

I will say that Shellac is sorta like Deerhunter for me in that their albums get better with time - even if they're never as sick as AAP.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 13 September 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

Doran OTM, like him they along with the Fall are the bands I have seen live the most times, and like the Fall they are always interesting.

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Saturday, 13 September 2014 11:13 (nine years ago) link

It's funny I always think Terraform is better than At Action Park and 1000 Hurts is not far behind....

EIG was a step down...I wish they'd do an odds n sods/singles comp that would be their best record

rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 13 September 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

I'm such a rigid, miserable, boring fucker.
― xelab, Friday, September 12, 2014 3:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 13 September 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

I'm obsessed with this version of The End of Radio since someone posted it in another thread.

worth a listen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzDQWrp5VpA

cajunsunday, Saturday, 13 September 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

^^^this one is so, so good

imago, Saturday, 13 September 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

The new album is fucking great btw. Too soon to call it but feels like the second best thing they've done.

Doran, Saturday, 13 September 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

behind Terraform, obv ;)

imago, Saturday, 13 September 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

LOL. I do like Terraform but I find the opening track a bit of a slog to be honest - even though technically it's amazing.

Doran, Saturday, 13 September 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Doran, that's my favourite Shellac song you're dissing! Consider this glare admonishing.

imago, Saturday, 13 September 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

I used to think Didn't We Deserve....was a chore to get through but it has the effect of my appreciating the odd Trainer fill or Albini noise more than the standard 2/3 minute Shellac number

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 13 September 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

Doran I feel the inverse on Terraform. I adore "Didn't We Deserve..." but I find the rest of the album kinda forgettable.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 13 September 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

Posting the lyrics to "Prayer To God" on my Facebook page got me fired from my job.

Despite that, total classic.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 13 September 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

^lol

imago, Saturday, 13 September 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

also, wait, what

imago, Saturday, 13 September 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

Yes. I finally got a lawyer to take my case but it's an uphill battle in an At Will state. We essentially have to prove that firing me for such a lame reason is a cover-up for some other things that they legally couldn't fire me for.

One prong of attack will possibly be a PR campaign so once my lawyer and I get on the same page, I will be trying to get the local media interested in my story. I think it won't be difficult - man fired for posting song lyrics to Facebook is sexy especially since a man was arrested for posting song lyrics not too long ago. But I'll leave the details to my lawyer.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 13 September 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link

And that's why you don't friend people from work and make yr status updates public!

Second singles comp, that's what I listen to theist despite being crappy vinyl rips

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 13 September 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

Tell us here when you're going public with the story NYCNative.

Doran, Saturday, 13 September 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link

Alice Donut on Untidy Suicides tour.
Nomeansno on the Wrong tour.

Bet these were amazing.

nate woolls, Saturday, 13 September 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

Today! Can't wait, heard some of the snippets here and there, plus heard most of these tunes live over the past 7 yrs I'm sure.

Are they my favorite band? Man, they might be

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link

"Man Fired for Posting 'Kill Him, Fucking Kill Him' on Facebook"

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link

Posting the lyrics to "Prayer To God" on my Facebook page got me fired from my job.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:53 PM

hopefully didn't coincide w/ a relationship status update

☝ (am0n), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Picked this up yesterday, I like it a lot. The first song reminds me of Achilles Last Stand in places.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link

thought this was out next week. young(er) me would have been aghast at the idea of this band's album release passing me by. not to say I'm not eager

well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

I forgot how much I like Dude Incredible

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

After the first two singles and Action Park, Terraform was a big WTF for me.
I just kept waiting for something to happen on "Didn't We Deserve..." but it never did. I get a bit more what they were going for now after you hear where they went, but that tune was kinda out of nowhere first time I heard the LP.

That said, the 'package' with the vintage paintings and the lush earth picutre on the interior and the record sleeves is really beautifully done.

The two singles had me hooked for a long time, they are some 7"s that I listened to a bunch. I also got the Drag City one and that Skin Graft double 7".

earlnash, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

Earlnash - felt exact same about Terraform - but the Chesley Bonestell art was dope. They never topped At Action Park or the singles in my opinion, but certainly have never put out any kind of clunker.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

I got to say that Dave Foley doomsday bunker rock-DJ sketch from the new Kids series has got some serious "The End of Radio" vibe.

I have to wonder if him or the writer knows the tune.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Csb9LEspJH4/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

🫡🫡🫡

25 years of Terraform, unfairly maligned not so long ago in this very thread!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 21:20 (eleven months ago) link

Damn, already?

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:13 (eleven months ago) link

dogg, I know.... feels strange

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:28 (eleven months ago) link

their greatest

imago, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:38 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

New album, To All Trains, out May 17.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:30 (one month ago) link

"How I Wrote How I Wrote Elastic Man (cock & bull)" is a song title so good I am pissed I didn't think of it myself

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link

pre-covers?

massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link

SHELLAC – TO ALL TRAINS TRACKLIST:
SIDE A
WSOD
Girl From Outside
Chick New Wave
Tattoos
Wednesday

SIDE B
Scrappers
Days Are Dogs
How I Wrote How I Wrote Elastic Man (cock & bull)
Scabby the Rat
I Don’t Fear Hell

paisley got boring (Eazy), Thursday, 21 March 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link


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