The balearic beardo beach hippie album canon

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this is the kind of thread that my wallet can't stand!

poortheatre, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

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poortheatre, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I would say yes, esp. the title track.
And what about Gary Burton's "Vibrafinger"?

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Surely a bunch of ECM stuff (Metheny, Tibbets, Eberhard Weber)

P'zone, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

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^^^^ JJ Cale's "Naturally," (among other LPs by him)... it's perhaps a little obvious, but necessary

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

oops

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5125K29V55L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the kind of thread that my wallet can't stand!

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

...isn't most of this stuff in the dollar bins? I thought that was kind of the point, but I guess it's all relative to your region/local record stores

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

also, where should I start with the ECM albums? Never was too big on Jarrett, but ECM has huuuuge and intimidatingly awesome-looking catalog.

I guess Azimuth was mentioned

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Pat Metheny - First Circle

P'zone, Thursday, 23 October 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

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Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Plus, the whole Laurel Canyon-beach vibe you're going for just doesn't make sense to me. Guess I just don't see how the 'beachy' side fits in, especially in "If I Could Only Remember My Name," which has always been about the mountains for me (who cares what the cover looks like).

Well, I think that record concerns both beach + mountain. Mt. Tamalpais, Big Sur, that whole vibe...and l.a. winding canyons

For that matter, where do nineties+ revivalists like these guys and their offshoots fit in?
http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-876173-1168133506.jpeg

As far as ppl consciously making very explicitly "beach" vibe records, ya gotta take these guys into account, right?

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-876173-1168133506.jpeg

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

oh goddamnit, i need to fix this balls image link. fucking internet

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

For that matter, where do nineties+ revivalists like these guys and their offshoots fit in?

As far as ppl consciously making very explicitly "beach" vibe records, ya gotta take these guys into account, right?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2967347627_8427e6f398.jpg?v=0

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Cool thread, though. The geography+music thing, which I'm assuming must have been discussed previously on ilm, is something that I think about often.

Quick thoughts along those lines:
a. I always thought sixties l.a. scene (beach boys, byrds, love, etc.) blew away its bay area counterpart, but in recent years i've come to soak up and more fully appreciate northern ca goodness like sly stone, grateful dead, the jefferson airplanes...
b. maybe much of l.a. music wow-dom is due to the ambition factor- ppl historically have gone there to "make it"...and/or some of them end up playing in highly "professionalized" environments as studio musicians-- hence you end up with yr "yacht rock" acts, etc...by contrast, nocal is more "laid-back" for real, and so stuff comes out of there that lacks the chart-making urgency that l.a. stuff has. this is a theory with millions of holes in it, but i'm throwing it out there nonetheless
c. when i lived near the beach i paradoxically had less interest than usual in the kind of music that is the subject of this thread, but both before and after, being fairly landlocked back east i have found myself with a renewed appreciation for this kind of stuff
d. i never delved properly into rickie lee jones' catalog until i moved back east, but now that i'm here, without exception every time that i listen to her, i am immediately transported back to california. that seems weird to me
e. i have been reading lots lately about the history of seventies porn films in southern california/sf/nyc. i'm wondering if there are musical analogues to this phenomenon? i'm inclined to think "yes"-- the way ppl talk about the nyc films vs west coast reminds me of ppl talking about vu vs golden state "hippies"

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I think that record concerns both beach + mountain. Mt. Tamalpais, Big Sur, that whole vibe...and l.a. winding canyons

omg i have hella listed to that album so many times on highway 1. the beach + mountains equation seems to be a large part of what this thread is going for

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

That's awesome. Seriously.

Yeah, I've always been a passenger when I was on journeys along those lines, and it was always some situation where I was in a car in which the stereo was busted or the equivalent thereof.

That being said, as unlikely as it may sound, early Scott Walker served me well traversing the Marin headlands...and also, one of my best memories of hearing "Eight Miles High" was when driving south towards SFO airport territory and seeing a huge bank of fog eclipsing the water.

In short, I am deep green with envy as far as it concerns being able to soak in these musics in their proper contexts. Like, smoke up and drive across the Bixby bridge or go do it up on some beach thereabouts while listening to "Draft Morning" or some such. I think it's worthwhile to do, even if only in the spirit of experimentation as far as concerns these music/geography nexuses.

del (dell), Friday, 24 October 2008 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd like to know more about what those crazy hippies were listening to in Ibiza or Goa before the whole balearic style emerged...

http://www.goagil.com/albums/Scrapbook/OLD_GOA_2.sized.jpg

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Alt-F "Danny O'Keefe"

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http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lp801ea9.jpg

I heard the great whales crying,
saying, "Brother, brother, we are dying."

nippevenette (unregistered), Friday, 24 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

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nippevenette (unregistered), Friday, 24 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Does this thing fit in here somewhere?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/493414410_5d1852d241.jpg

I can't really look at the thread title without the pictures of the freaks in the gatefold popping into my head to the tune of 'Pali Gap'. There's that whole globe-trotting jetting-off-to-a-hippie-beach-party vibe in the (terrible) film too.

NickB, Friday, 24 October 2008 12:22 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe much of l.a. music wow-dom is due to the ambition factor- ppl historically have gone there to "make it"...and/or some of them end up playing in highly "professionalized" environments as studio musicians-- hence you end up with yr "yacht rock" acts, etc...by contrast, nocal is more "laid-back" for real, and so stuff comes out of there that lacks the chart-making urgency that l.a. stuff has. this is a theory with millions of holes in it, but i'm throwing it out there nonetheless

OTM I think - one of the things that links IICORMN and No Other (see poll thread), as well as Forever Changes (Beach Boys too, come to think of it) is the odd disjunctive MOR associations you get with each - The odd Anita Kerr harmonies on Tamalpais ....on the Crosby records, the no quite schmaltz of Strength of Strings, the Herb Alpert-ness of Clark and Hilldale....

sonofstan, Friday, 24 October 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe those associations only seem odd because we've been fed this myth about the 60s, about how them cool hippies and folkies were against pop and Hollywood schmaltz. But in reality, American folk and pop have always been inextricably linked.

That said, I don't think this applies to the Beach Boys. They grew up in the pop realm.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 24 October 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Good point.
The individual Byrds pre- careers are exemplary in this respect

sonofstan, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Totally. And it even extends to the Bay Area. Before Marty Balin was a folkie, he was a teen actor/singer who dug Tony Bennett. At the time, that seemed bizarre. But listen to some of Balin's great ballads with the Jefferson Airplane, and you realize the guy is a great crooner, who understood classic Tin Pan Alley singing.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Huh. Cool, I don't think I've ever made all of those connections, and even if I had, probably would not have been able to articulate them in the fashion that you guys have done here.

Marty Balin, wow. I have such a weakness for some of the Starship-era stuff-- Miracles, Count on Me, Runaway... I guess Scott was comparing some of that stuff to Chris Rea upthread, but I'm not sure that I hear it. The near seven-minute version of Miracles, for one, never fails me. Fool if You Think it's Over, by contrast, sounds like yr standard issue Benny Mardones-ish yacht-rock material.

Runaway is saddled with a godawful bridge that I can't listen to without cringing, but otherwise, me love the MB.

del (dell), Friday, 24 October 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

All this So-Cal vs. Nor-Cal talk makes me want to post a gem from this guy...

http://therisingstorm.net/audio/mu-300x300.jpg

Merrell Fankhauser is the mannn. He purportedly invented the riff for "Wipeout," then became obsessed with Hawaii and it's mythology and made this album with dudes from Beefheart's band.

And he's from CENTRAL CA, aka Arroyo Grande, aka halfways between SF and LA. And this album rules--though perhaps a bit on the proggy end of this spectrum--it totally fits.

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

He still hosts the most hilarious cable-access show in that area, called Merrell Fankhauser's Tiki Lounge. His wife tapes it in their living room(!), and I was lucky enough to be there when he interviewed Swedish psych band Dungen . I think they sorta started their association that led to these rereleases on Dungen's Subliminal Sounds label...

http://www.subliminalsounds.se/DOK/merrellfankhauser.html

That was the most awkward interview ever, btw. "What's your name and what instrument do you play?..." followed by broken english, etc.

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Mu is the "lost continent" aka what some people call Hawaii (where dude lives now). straight up hippy beach music. i posted a song from that album ("Eternal Thirst") to my site. sounds like tim buckley on vocals and jeff cotton of beefhart's magic band on slide guitar. there's a crazy long percussion breakdown with weird ass chanting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent)

jaxon, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

jaxon, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

holy crap. look at this! this is the most balearic beardo beach hippy video ever!

jaxon, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

seriously, that video pwns this thread

"nobody wants to shine" has an incredible bassline, too

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

just wanted to reiterate how fucking amazing Terry Reid's Seed Of Memory is. by far my favorite album of his (even though i love all the stuff i've heard by him) and it totally fits in this thread. funked out folk rock w/a bit of twang.

http://robotsinheat.com/trax/OohBaby.mp3

jaxon, Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a mix from dirk of eskimo recordings on lovefingers that's all balearock/funky/folky/classic rock. Great stuff.

http://www.lovefingers.org/mp3/dirk.mp3

Think there's also another one on beats in space worth searching for.

jaxon, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link

but part of me thinks that what makes crosby and phillips and f'wood mac "fit" fairly easily under the umbrella of "balearica" and acts like the band and the dead (and feel free to disagree with me, anyone) fit far less easily under that same umbrella is some kind of interestingly-felt relationship with the beach or the idea of "beach" that LA has and SF doesnt.

just wanted to point out (as brought to light here:No Other V If I could Only Remember My Name) that the grateful dead theyselfs made a large part of crosby's best album. So there was a lot of the same stuff going on, and I think the dead actually made some albums that would be perfect for this thread.

but you're dead on about la being oriented much more towards the beach. i duno if it manifests itself in a genre that is concerned with being rural in nature, however.

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean la as a city, by the way, not as a musical entity. and country/americana is what i'm referring to by 'a genre that is concerned with being rural in nature'

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Just had a brainstorm, it doesn't have even the slightest amount of twang in it though.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7811/b00000250l01sclzzzzzzzmb6.jpg

Its about as hippie as funk gets without being Sly.

Check the title track.

Siah Alan, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Check out Linda Perhcas,Parallelograms. Doesn't cut it on the beardo part (and perhaps not the balearic part)but it's pretty damn boss on all other fronts.
http://music.geocities.jp/viennagarden/parallelograms.jpg

mottdeterre, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Um, make that Perhacs

mottdeterre, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

well perhacs i will check it out....

max, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

she does live in hawaii if that makes it fit in the thread

jaxon, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

great, great album btdubs

jaxon, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

is "balearic" just the self-aware Other Music-goer's way of looking down on people that jumped on the "yacht rock" thing?

Whiney G. Torture Garden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

its a term we made up to make you annoyed

max, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Does yacht rock presuppose dinghy rock?

mottdeterre, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a few Perhacs tracks that almost work, but that record is way too intimate to be included here, and I feel it has a certain English folk formalist vibe to it that is decidedly un-balearic. But it is a great record indeed.

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

nobody has used the word "oceanicity" yet :-/

my other son is a zamboni (gbx), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

played 80s trivial pursuit this weekend and had the question asker scoff and say "you are SOOOOO never going to get this,,, name a zurich born harpist that was listed in three US billboard charts in 1984."

i got up and threw my Andreas Vollenweider record in his face!

i can't remember the question, but the same thing happened when they asked about the william hurt film gorky park. the soundtrack's epic, assholes!

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link


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