TURN THIS MUTHA OUT! It's the Alternate 1970s Albums Poll on ILX — Results Thread

And since I think a fair number of choices that others big-upped that seem missing from my list are simply because of weird Never Owned blind spots (I'll go out and buy Sextant at first opportunity, honest), I assume that holds for other folks too—I just don't think Rufus or Twink or Terry Riley are as popular as some of the other choices, and that's reflected in the voting.

I like your list a lot, especially for including those two McCoy Tyner albums. Sadly I could only fit Sahara into my ballot, but Song of the New World is really good too, I love the cosmic big band sound on it.

Heh. Thank my father—most of that jazz was the soundtrack for my childhood road trips. I'd like little bits of it, heads mostly, and thought most of the rest was boring. I still wouldn't necessarily put it on to drive to, but I've come to really love it, especially as albums. From talking about the runs of five and the greatest jazz albums threads, I went back and listened to a lot of this stuff again and think there's an argument to be made for it really a high point of the album format.

And I don't recall if I voted in the original '70s poll or not, but my ballot wouldn't have been that much different.

Have you ever listened to the Larry Young album? I think you'd like it a lot.

This lurker's list:

1. Genesis - Selling England By the Pound
2. Cale, John - Fear
3. Eno, Brian - Before and After Science
4. Talking Heads - Fear of Music
5. Ben, Jorge - Forca Bruta
6. Yes - Close to the Edge
7. Sparks - Indiscreet
8. Nilsson, Harry - The Point
9. Genesis - Foxtrot
10. Chic - Risque
11. Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
12. Fleetwood Mac - Tusk
13. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
14. Mitchell, Joni - The Hissing of Summer Lawns
15. Slapp Happy - Casablanca Moon
16. Cale, John - Helen of Troy
17. Nascimento, Milton & Lô Borges- Clube de Esquina
18. Residents, The - Meet the Residents
19. Gainsbourg, Serge - Vu de l'Exterieur
20. Bowie, David - Lodger
21. Penguin Café Orchestra - Music from the Penguin Café
22. Leão, Nara - Dez Anos Depois
23. Pop, Iggy - The Idiot
24. Residents, The - Duck Stab / Buster & Glen
25. Roxy Music - Country Life
26. Pop, Iggy - Lust for Life
27. Roxy Music - Stranded
28. Sparks - Propaganda
29. Thompson, Mayo - Corky's Debt to His Father
30. Talking Heads - Talking Heads '77
31. Cluster - Sowiesoso
32. Kraftwerk - Ralf and Florian
33. Ono, Yoko - Plastic Ono Band
34. Costa, Gal - India
35. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
36. Chic - C’est Chic
37. Teenage Jesus & The Jerks - Teenage Jesus & The Jerks EP
38. Blondie - Blondie
39. Oldfield, Mike - Tubular Bells
40. Sparks - Sparks

In compiling and ordering the list it was hard to decide how to weigh albums that had been favorites for, say, ten years or more vs. more recent discoveries. I tend to assume that my old favorites are going to be the same as everyone else's, due to greater overall exposure, but it didn't come out quite that way — for good and bad. I don't necessarily mind seeing Iggy and Roxy Music not make this list (much as I like them) if it makes room for something I don't know much about, like the Alice Coltrane or Yellow Magic Orchestra album (which I will investigate). I wish this had happened more often, but some of the individual ballots look really interesting. In comparison, my own seems a little boring, but maybe that's just because it's familiar to me.

I probably would have included Africa Brasil if I had known Jorge Ben wouldn't get any records in the final list otherwise, but while it's a vital album it doesn't move me as much as the lushly orchestrated stuff from earlier in the decade.

Individual lists are great, really interesting.

Nara Leao? second name i don't know here? tell me? (I know I could google but answers here are much better)

Nara Leao? second name i don't know here? tell me? (I know I could google but answers here are much better)

Her work spans a few Brazilian genres, but she's basically considered a bossa nova singer. Dez Anos Depois is a double album where she covers some of the classics of the genre (by João Gilberto et al) in a very understated way, mostly just with guitar accompaniment in a resonant acoustic. It luxuriates in a kind of rainy-day cool, as suggested by the album's cover; I love to play it late at night at low volume.

My faves by her are actually from the '60s — the Rogerio Duprat album (self-titled, 1968), and Nara (which is included on the Nara '67 CD from Él). The latter especially has marvelous orchestrations and a more heightened sense of drama than most of her work: it can be stomping and dangerous, joyous and maybe a tad flippant, mysterious, and/or melancholic; it is often very tender. In this context, her singing makes me melt like the chickens serenaded by Crosby and Sinatra in the Porky Pig cartoon "Swooner Crooner," but less abruptly.

The Slipcue writeup offers a decent overview (I discovered her through that site).

I just want to know the identity of the kindred spirit who put New York Dolls: In Too Much Too Soon at number one.

Thanks eatandoph. Reading that slipcue piece made me realise I didn't vote for Edu Lobo's Missa Breve (was it nominated?) - I keep noticing/ remembering things I missed.....

weird Never Owned blind spots

LOTS of those on my part

Thanks to this poll I picked up copies of Minnie Riperton's Come To My Garden and Orentte Coleman's Dancing In Your Head (and complete Science Fiction sessions). I also re-downloaded Riperton's next two albums (I can't hear "Loving You" without thinking of the South Park episode). Also re-listened to some Fleetwood Mac and ABBA. I still don't get it. People dismiss reggae albums because it was a strong singles genre, but there's many albums that have way less filler than those two MOR hit machines. It's also strange that the rest of the ballots were much different (full of interesting music I like), rather than, say, The Eagles, Gordon Lightfoot or Boz Scaggs.

7 of my top 8 made it.

1. Fela Kuti – Zombie
2. The Raincoats
3. Talking Heads - Fear Of Music
4. Toots & the Maytals - Funky Kingston
5. Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - Lick My Decals Off Baby
6. T. Rex - Electric Warrior
7. Tim Buckley – Starsailor
8. X Ray Spex - Germ-Free Adolescents
9. Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - Clear Spot
10. Junior Murvin - Police & Thieves
11. Al Green - I'm Still In Love With You
12. Curtis Mayfield – Curtis
13. Perry, Lee "Scratch" & The Upsetters – Super Ape
14. Rico - Man From Wareika
15. Iggy Pop - Lust For Life
16. Justin Hinds & The Dominoes – Jezebel
17. Cedric Im Brooks - The Light Of Saba
18. Max Romeo & the Upsetters - War Ina Babylon
19. Junior Byles - Beat Down Babylon
20. The Abyssinians - Satta Massagana
21. Keith Hudson - Flesh Of My Skin, Blood Of My Blood
22. Yabby You - Conquering Lion
23. The Mighty Diamonds - Right Time
24. Bob Marley & the Wailers - Catch A Fire
25. Bob Marley & the Wailers - Natty Dread
26. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing
27. Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank Generation
28. George Faith - To Be A Lover
29. Patti Smith – Horses
30. Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
31. Van Morrison – Moondance
32. Harmonia – Deluxe
33. Neu! - Neu! 75
34. Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda
35. Gavin Bryars - The Sinking Of The Titanic
36. Tom Zé - Estudando O Samba
37. Burning Spear - Marcus Garvey
38. The Mystic Revelation Of Rastafari - Tales Of Mozambique
39. Max Romeo & the Upsetters - Revelation Time
40. Harmonia - Music Von Harmonia

looks like Chrome is another one that suffered from vote splitting.

if the raw data is available, could some maniac consolidate the points into an overall artist ranking?

Here's the excel file: http://www.box.net/shared/ku8ozxgd9x

OK I'm posting this to out the person who placed In Too Much Too Soon at #1.

1. New York Dolls in Too Much Too Soon
2. X Ray Spex Germ Free Adolescents
3. Various Artists The Rocky Horror Picture Show (Motion Picture Soundtrack)
4. Sweet The Sweet's Biggest Hits
5. Steely Dan Can't Buy a Thrill
6. Davis, Miles Dark Magus
7. Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band
8. Zé, Tom Estudando o Samba
9. Culture Two Sevens Clash
10. Chic Risque
11. Parton, Dolly The Best of Dolly Parton (1975)
12. Creedence Clearwater Revival Chronicle, Volume 1
13. Sly & The Family Stone Fresh
14. ABBA Greatest Hits, Vol. 2
15. Roches, The The Roches
16. Bowie, David Changesonebowie (1976)
17. Steely Dan Katy Lied
18. Summer, Donna Once Upon a Time
19. Franklin, Aretha Young, Gifted and Black
20. Nelson, Willie Stardust
21. Insect Trust, The Hoboken Saturday Night
22. Davis, Miles Get Up With It
23. Wild Tchoupitoulas Wild Tchoupitoulas
24. Funkadelic One Nation Under a Groove
25. Mitchell, Joni For the Roses
26. Pere Ubu Dub Housing
27. Stewart, Rod Every Picture Tells a Story
28. Blue Öyster Cult Tyranny and Mutation
29. Young, Neil Time Fades Away
30. Roxy Music Siren
31. Shoes Present Tense
32. Stylistics, The The Best of The Stylistics
33. Poppy Family, The (featuring Susan Jacks) Which Way You Goin' Billy?
34. Ono, Yoko Fly
35. Green, Al Al Green is Love
36. Talking Heads Talking Heads '77
37. Summer, Donna Four Seasons of Love
38. Lucier, Alvin I Am Sitting in a Room
39. Jandek Ready for the House
40. McGarrigle, Kate & Anna Kate & Anna McGarrigle

the other person, that is

I ended up submitting this as an unranked list (bolded the ones that made it):

Colón, Willie & Ruben Blades Siembra
John, Elton Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player
Kuti, Fela Sorrow, Tears and Blood
Kuti, Fela No Agreement
Coltrane, Alice Journey in Satchidananda
Electric Light Orchestra A New World Record
Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac
John, Elton Honky Chateau
Haris Alexiou Ta Tragoudia Tis Haroulas
Fairouz Oriental Evening
Canales, Angel El Sentimiento del Latino en Nueva York
Feliciano, Cheo Cheo
Colón, Willie El Juicio
La Sonora Ponceña Explorando
Rivera, Ismael Eclipse Total
Valentin, Bobby Afuera
Lavoe, Héctor La Voz
Ronstadt, Linda Greatest Hits
Fripp, Robert & Brian Eno Evening Star
Fripp, Robert & Brian Eno No Pussyfooting
Eagles Their Greatest Hits (1971-75)
Burning Spear Garvey's Ghost
Burning Spear Marcus Garvey
Ashley, Robert Private Parts (The Record)
Cars, The The Cars
Scaggs, Boz Silk Degrees
Carpenters, The The Singles 1969-73
Pipes of Pan at Jajouka, The Brian Jones Presents the Pipes of Pan at Jajouka
Raincoats, The The Raincoats
Palmieri, Eddie Unfinished Masterpiece
Armatrading, Joan Joan Armatrading
Lennon, John Imagine
Ono, Yoko Plastic Ono Band
Elvis Costello & The Attractions Armed Forces
Earth, Wind & Fire That's the Way of the World
Steely Dan Aja
Mitchell, Joni Hejira
Kraftwerk Autobahn
Soft Machine Third
T.Rex The Slider (except I changed this to Joan Armatrading s/t, forgetting I had already included that album, so not sure it was counted)

OK I'm posting this to out the person who placed In Too Much Too Soon at #1...

Hah! I just found the other weirdo person who voted for Hoboken Saturday Night

This was my ballot, unranked:

Adam & The Ants Dirk Wears White Sox
Art Ensemble of Chicago, The Les Stances a Sophie
Barrett, Syd The Madcap Laughs
Ben, Jorge África Brasil
Cale, John, Vintage Violence
Clash, The, Give 'em Enough Rope
Coltrane, Alice, Journey in Satchidananda
Damned, The, Damned Damned Damned
Dead Boys, The, Young, Loud and Snotty
Devo, Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
Electric Light Orchestra, Out of the Blue
Fahey, John, America
Gil, Gilberto, Gilberto Gil
Gorageur, Alain, La Planete Sauvage (Motion Picture Score)
Hazlewood, Lee, Cowboy in Sweden
Jam, The, All Mod Cons
Kinks, The, Muswell Hillbillies
Kraftwerk, Autobahn
Lowe, Nick, Jesus of Cool
Magazine, Real Life
Mayfield, Curtis, Curtis
Meters, The, Look-ka Py Py
Murvin, Junior, Police and Thieves
Nelson, Willie, Red Headed Stranger
Newman, Randy, Sail Away
Otis, Shuggie, Inspiration Information
Parton, Dolly, Jolene
Ramones, Rocket to Russia
Reed, Lou, Transformer
Rezillos, Can't Stand the Rezillos
Saints, The, I'm Stranded
Shoes, Black Vinyl Shoes
Stiff Little Fingers, Inflammable Material
Sun Ra, Lanquidity
Swell Maps, A Trip to Marineville
T.Rex, Electric Warrior
Toots & The Maytals, Funky Kingston
Undertones, The, The Undertones
Withers, Bill, Still Bill
Wonder, Stevie, Music of My Mind

1. New York Dolls in Too Much Too Soon
2. X Ray Spex Germ Free Adolescents

these were my top two also, tho ranked in reverse order. ;^) Ubu's Datapanik ep at no. 3, mofos.

This was my (ordered) ballot, 9 of which placed:

1 Yes Close to the Edge
2 Rolling Stones, The Black n' Blue
3 Gong Camembert Electrique
4 Genesis Selling England By the Pound
5 Gong You
6 Ayers, Kevin Whatevershebringwesing
7 Otis, Shuggie Inspiration Information
8 Martyn, John Solid Air
9 Undertones, The The Undertones
10 Abercrombie, John Gateway
11 Ayers, Kevin Bananamour
12 Morrison, Van Veedon Fleece
13 Davis, Miles Live Evil
14 Marley, Bob & The Wailers Rastaman Vibration
15 Faithfull, Marianne Broken English
16 Buzzcocks Another Music in a Different Kitchen
17 Mayfield, Curtis There's No Place Like America Today
18 Pere Ubu The Modern Dance
19 Queen Queen II
20 ABBA Waterloo
21 Eno, Brian Ambient 1: Music for Airports
22 Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band Clear Spot
23 Ramones Leave Home
24 Kraftwerk Autobahn
25 King, Carole Tapestry
26 Siouxsie & The Banshees The Scream
27 Little Feat Feats Don't Fail Me Now
28 Dury, Ian New Boots and Panties!!
29 Cockney Rebel The Human Menagerie
30 Carpenters, The The Singles 1969-73
31 Osmonds, The The Plan
32 Tangerine Dream Phaedra
33 Penguin Café Orchestra Music from the Penguin Café
34 Fleetwood Mac Tusk
35 Oldfield, Mike Ommadawn
36 Soft Machine Third
37 X Ray Spex Germ Free Adolescents
38 Marley, Bob & The Wailers Natty Dread
39 Chic C'est Chic
40 Ayers, Kevin Shooting at the Moon

How is this different from Kenny G or Grover Washington or what have you?

Give or take some alleged irony, I'm not sure it is that different from Grover Washington Jr. and what exactly is so wrong with Grover Washington, Jr. anyway? I think you'd be surprised by how many serious jazz cats respect Grover Washington Jr. I bet you Byard Lancaster slips on some Grover Washington Jr. now and then. I bet you Odean Pope doesn't mind Grover Washington Jr. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. I wouldn't try putting down Grover Washington Jr. around jazz heavies in Philadelphia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oxb4LayC7A

But you're entitled to your opinion of course.

I'm not saying Grover Washington Jr. is bad, but I can't see any album of his ever placing in an ILM poll, so I was only wondering what makes Steely Dan so different that they always do?

Either this poll was held at an awkward time or there wasn't enough time given to nominate, but I missed sending in my noms

Late-period Steely Dan goes more deeply into the smooth jazz/funk stylings, but their albums are overall pretty diverse. Try some of these tunes: "Peg", "My Old School", "Reeling in the Years", "Barrytown", "Kid Charlemagne", etc. These are more poppy, I think.

Who else voted New York Dolls: In Too Much Too Soon as their #1???????????

Either this poll was held at an awkward time or there wasn't enough time given to nominate, but I missed sending in my noms

Noms only lasted a few days, but we came up with a master list of 1,258 albums. Surely something you like made the cut.

Goddammit tinypic, there are 10-12 year old posts all over the internet ruined by your wack service!