You could have it so much better.....with the ILM albums of 2005

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this list has turned absolutely repulsive.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

ILM IN NON-HIVE-MIND SHOCKAH!

i don't understand the cross section of people who voted

i don't understand why some of ILM's most vocal personalities didn't vote, and i think that's what might give the list a rather skewed feel. still, i am thoroughly enjoying it, odd though it might be. top work, billy.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

ILM in LOSING ITS SHIT when five indie albums show up ... SHOCKAH.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I've only heard a couple of tracks from the Out Hud album but I really like them.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I have heard two (2) albums on this list so far.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Summary so far...

50. Smog - A river ain't too much to love
49. Franz Ferdinand - You could have it so much better...
48. Maximo Park - A certain trigger
47. Depeche Mode - Playing the Angel
46. Annie - Anniemal
45. Juan Maclean - Less than Human
44. Dangerdoom - The Mouse and the Mask
43. Daft Punk - Human after all
42. Bright Eyes - I'm wide awake it's morning
41. My Morning Jacket - Z
40. Tom Vek – We have sound
39. Alan Braxe & Friends – The Upper cut
38. Konono no.1 – Congotronics
37. Stephen Malkmus – Face the truth
36. Ellen Allien – Thrills
35. The White Stripes - Get behind me Satan
34. Missy Elliot – The Cookbook
33. Fiona Apple =- Extraordinary machine
32. Patrick Wolf – Wind in the wires
31. Madonna – Confessions on a dancefloor
30. Low - The Great Destroyer
29. Sigur Ros - Takk
28. Deerhoof - The Runners Four
27. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
26. Kelley Polar - Love songs of the Hanging Gardens
25. The Clientele - Strange Geometry
24. Ladytron - The Witching Hour
23. Saint Etienne - Tales from Turnpike House
22. Out Hud - Let us never speak of it again
21. Sleater Kinney - The Woods

Top 20 TBA

- predictions?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I predict that my #1 album will not make the list.

(only two that I voted for made the list so far)

peepee (peepee), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

MIA, Okkervil River, LCD Soundsystem, Sufjan, Kanye, Vitalic, Animal Collective, The Hold Steady and Bloc Party will all appear.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, Okkervil is wishful thinking maybe...

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Isolee will almost certainly be in there if Ellen Allien made the cut.

fandango (fandango), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

let's all pretend that Sufjan or 'Rebellion' won't win.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's all pretend that MIA won't win.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's all pretend that anti-indieism is any better than indieism.

c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

That should be the ILM slogan.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

this is fucking atrocious.

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, I think that might be the ILM slogan.

darin (darin), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's all hope that Modeselektor shows up. But I guess it won't.

Jibé (Jibé), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

re:Alba:yes, I like St Et's 90s stuff.

Others yet to make an appearance that'll probrably be in the top 20: Robyn, Gorillaz, New Pornographers, Rachel Stevens, Girls Aloud, Spoon.

jason., Monday, 16 January 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

M83 hasn't shown up yet. it had better, that's all i'm saying ;)

i'm assuming "funeral" will be in there too.

i'd love to think that the meshuggah album will roar into the top ten, but i fear that's wishful thinking. bastards. still, it was terrorizer's #1, so at least someone somewhere is hailing the awesome power of riffular prog-metal magic \m/

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

so at least someone somewhere is hailing the awesome power of riffular prog-metal magic \m/

I listened to Francis the Mute today for the first time since it came out. It's a very funny album.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Kate Bush in Top 10

Shortwave Set an outside bet? Everyone who heard it seemed to like it.

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

arcade fire, was number 10 on ILM 2004 poll:

ILM TOP ALBUMS OF 2004

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Kate Bush in Top 10

I didn't want to jinx it by saying so, and I didn't want to be wrong, but yes, I think so. There is a strong Kate Bush cult around here, though it might not be visible to people who don't click on the relevant threads.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

trying to predict the collective ILM Top 20 Albums:

first up the 10 most likely to show up in the top 20:

Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
M.I.A. - Arular
Kate Bush - Aerial
Antony and the Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now
Vitalic - Ok Cowboy
Broadcast - Tender Buttons
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
Animal Collective - Feels
Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase
LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem

the next 10 IS difficult to judge, so here are some candidates with comments:

Common - Be [Is rap still popular asks Geir?]
Broken Social Scene - Broken Social Scene [Is this too generic indie rawk to show up in the top 20?]
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Clap Your Hands Say Yeah [Have enough ILM types voted for Pitchfork approved Talking Heads karaoke?]
Gorillaz - Demon Days [Does ILM like fun? OR NOT ]
Isolée - Wearemonster [Have the dance types voted in enough numbers?]
Lightning Bolt - Hypermagic Mountain [Where are the Noise dudes?]
The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema [Canadian Indie on a zillion blog / webzine lists]
Nine Horses - Snow Borne Sorrow [Will enough people vote this into the top 20?]
Robyn - Robyn [A long thread on ILM suggests this is popular]
Kanye West - Late Registration [Is rap still popular asks Geir?]


Some other candidates/ Outsiders: [remember there were over 500 albums voted for] will any of these be in the top 20:

The Shortwave Set - The Debt Collection [have a cult following on ILM]
The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute [is this too prog to be popular for ILM ?]
The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree [has a cult following on ILM]
The Decemberists - Picaresque [tuneless tripe that is popular with indie types]
Mew - And the Glass Handed Kites [Can these Danish art-rockers gatecrash the top 20? unlikely ]
Dälek - Absence [Did enough people remember this?]
Andrew Bird - Andrew Bird & The Mysterious Production of Eggs [Seems to be on a zillion indie rock lists]
Jesu - Jesu [too obscure for the ILM Top 20?]
Eels - Blinking Lights and Other Revelations [Never understood the appeal of this lot]
Spoon - Gimme Fiction [North American Indie rockers seem to rate them]
Architecture In Helsinki - In Case We Die [Twee bollox]
The Books - Lost and Safe [Popular on some other polls]
Elbow - Leaders of the Free World [Do Elbow have enough followers on ILM?]
M83 - Before the Dawn Heals Us [Lacked substance, and too early in 2005 - faded away]
Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft [Another band with a cult following on ILM]
Colleen - The Golden Morning Breaks [Has a following on ILM, but not enough for the top 20?]
New Order - Waiting for the Sirens' Call [I don't think this will be the top 20 as it got a mixed response on ILM]
Goldfrapp - Supernature [this album had a mixed response on ILM]
Roisin Murphy - Ruby Blue [Wine bar Muzak]
Black Mountain - Black Mountain [Have some following on ILM, but NOT enough for top 20]
Röyksopp - The Understanding [Unlikely to be in the top 20]
CocoRosie - Noah's Ark [Unlikely]
Rogue Wave - Descended Like Vultures [I don't think this will make it]
Clor - Clor [Not enough support to make it]
Mu - Out Of Breach (Manchester's Revenge) [Did the dance types vote for this?]
Jan Jelinek - Kosmischer Pitch [A slow burner, gradually picking up kudos towards the end of the year]
Field Music - Field Music [Not enough support to make it in the top 20]
Opeth - Ghost Reveries [On other polls this is the most popular metal release of 2005. Metal has never done well on ILM polls, the same dozen or so people stick to the Rolling metal thread throughout the year in their own special world, so unlikely to dent the top 20]
Ulver - Blood Inside [No chance - too obscure for ILM]
The National - Alligator [Has done well on other polls]
Jaga Jazzist - What We Must [Superb album but highly unlikely]
Rachel Stevens - Come And Get It [Will the pop-ists vote gatecrash this into the the top 20?]
Girls Aloud - Chemistry [Will the pop-ists vote gatecrash this into the the top 20?]

Billy, are there any albums in the top 20 ? NOT listed on this post.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

multi-x-posts...

sovietpanda OTM re:Clientele. I feel like one could not approximate a closer feel to the most absolute boring side of indie pop. A friend told me listening to Death Cab for Cutie is like watching paint dry to him. That's what the Clientele is like to me. I only saw them open for Spoon, which is an unfair comparison to make, but I didn't want to hear their shit again.

Also, Simon... I too think Okkervil is a stretch, but if it doesn't make it here, I propose starting a thread devoted to its greatness and revelling in the imagery/world as if we were Trekkies or Star Wars geeks. I propose calling ourselves Okkies.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

[Is rap still popular asks Geir?]

I expect certain people on ILM to be still listening to rap by the time anyone outside Bronx or Compton has long since abandonded the genre. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm afraid MIA will do very well. I also predict Spoon, Mountain Goats, Sufjan, Antony, and Bloc Party will make it.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Geir, over 500 albums were voted in the 2005 ILM albums poll, predict where Coldplay will finish?

My prediction: 389

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

arcade fire, was number 10 on ILM 2004 poll:

yup. and it didn't come out in the UK until 2005, which means it's eminently eligible. indeed, billy singled it out in his original blurb as one such example. i'd be very surprised if it doesn't make the cut. i mean: LCD soundsystem was in last year's poll too, remember?

spoon will chart highly, i'm betting. and i think that bloody new order record will get in there too, although it really doesn't deserve to at all.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, no way the new order record gets in there!

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, no, you're right: its biggest cheerleaders don't seem to have voted in this poll at all, so it's fucked.

i did put "waiting for the sirens' call" itself in my "tracks" list, but it's got no chance. like, er ... [counts on fingers] ... at least 85% of my track choices ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I am shocked - shocked! - that Alba likes Wolf Parade.

I find them unlistenable.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

in my blurb about the upper cuts 'evangelized' should replace 'eulogized' although i did do a bit of the latter too. i always mix those words up thinking one and typing the other. they're not really antonyms, but it's a weird interchange. i didn't vote in this poll because i am not feeling the end of year stuff this time around. i did actually try to come up with singles and albums lists, but it's so hard to do when the idea of putting something into a ranked list induces just a bit of paralysis, not to mention the fact that most of what i would pick is quite marginal to the stuff already posted here.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Billy, are there any albums in the top 20 ? NOT listed on this post.

Yes! Watch this space.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

But this ain't one of them...

20. Antony and the Johnsons - I am a bird now
(116 points, 12 votes)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/unterwasser/anthonybird.jpg

Comment:

I seriously think this record shares DNA with W.E.B. DuBois' The Souls of Black Folk. Both take me out of myself by provoking thought, empathy, and a kind of spritual meditativeness. Each is the work of a man fully inhabiting his current situation and transcending it in the process of documenting it. The complexity of feeling in "For Today I Am A Boy," as well as its rousing chorus (if you can call it that), makes it my personal favorite song on the album. Of course DuBois never had a piece devoted to the act of fisting. And holy shit, does Antony actually make it sound sweet? Yes, yes he does.

David Maher

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

is that David Maher or Christgau?

titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

19. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema
(125.5 points, 9 votes 1 number one)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/unterwasser/twincinema.jpg

Comment:

other ilxors said:

The melodies on Electric Version still sound much more difficult to me, more complicated and tangled, and not as immediate. My second time through Mass Romantic (and The Slow Wonder), I already felt a strong familiarity with every track; some tracks on Electric Version took three listens just to gain perspective on where they were about to go after each measure. I personally didn't feel as familiar with it until maybe the fourth or fifth listen, and I was never as taken with it as I was by the first album. The new one seems like a pleasant middle-ground. Not as much power-pop throttle as MR, not as many twists/turns as EV.
Ryan Pitchfork June 19th, 2005 5:01 AM.

It's my favorite New Pornographers album, which is saying quite a lot since I really love Mass Romantic and Electric Version. I am quite confident in my opinion that Twin Cinema is a full-on masterpiece. It took me a few months to arrive at that opinion, though.
Matthew C Perpetua December 7th, 2005 8:08 PM.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Billy, are there any albums in the top 20 ? NOT listed on this post.

Yes! Watch this space.

My prediction for the one not listed = Belle and Sebastian, The Life Pursuit, given the indie-centric-ness of this list so far (it leaked early enough to get in, right?)

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

This is a good game but you'll have to keep guessing.

18. M83 - Before the dawn heals us
(141 points, 11 votes, 2 number ones)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/unterwasser/m83.jpg

Comment:

When M83 became Anthony Gonzalez's solo project, his band's life as a synthtastic "Loveless" clone came crashing to a halt. Setting the controls to "epic" for nearly every track, they broadened their template to include heart-crushing ballads ("Safe" might have been the saddest song I heard in 2005), sweeping, cinematic instrumentals ("Moonchild"); as well as surging, pseudo-shoegazer rock ("Don't Save Us From the Flames", "Teen Angst"). What's more, "A Guitar and a Heart" is the best song Loverboy ever made.
Barry Bruner

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

DJ Martian is severely underrating the Mountain Goats' popularity, I think.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

and overrating the Boards. Campfire Headphase will not be showing up on this list.

jason., Monday, 16 January 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, you're right, Jason.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess that's true about BOC. But I submitted my ballot a few weeks ago and Campfire Headphase is the one album I regret leaving off my ballot; it has really grown on me. (There's also one album that I regret having on my ballot, but I'm too embarrassed to say what it is -- it has already showed up in the poll results.)

National Roffle Association (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

17. Gorillaz - Demon Days
(142.5 points, 12 votes, 2 number ones)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/unterwasser/demondays.jpg

Comment:

other ilxors said:

an album made for summer dusk and heat and noise. driving around playing this in my honda- some tracks even sound better with the windows down and all the street noise
kephm August 8th, 2005 10:15 PM.

I'm enjoying it way more than I ever thought I would. That irritating voice-over by.....is it Dennis Hopper?, though, bugs the shit out of me.
Alex in NYC August 9th, 2005 1:12 AM.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

There was quite a lot of love here for Campfire Headphase. I found the opposite though, it was immediately accessible but didn't have a lasting impact with me. Wonder if ILM feels similar...

Bn1 (Bn1), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Got to be a non-Kanye hip-hop album in the top 20. From best to worst odds: the Game, Young Jeezy, Roll Deep, Kano or Lil Wayne.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

good to see Gorillaz and M83

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

that still means there is more than 1 album in the top 20 that wasn't listed on my post. what is it, any ideas?

useful memory jogger

stefan's 2005 albums metalist [NOW INCLUDING 150 LISTS)
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/580641

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Got to be a non-Kanye hip-hop album in the top 20. From best to worst odds: the Game, Young Jeezy, Roll Deep, Kano or Lil Wayne.

I'd say Jeezy & maybe Wayne are the only ones that have a chance.....maybe Run The Road. I wouldn't be sure there will be any considering the strong indie slant of this list.

R. J. Greene, Monday, 16 January 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Go! Team - "Thunder Lightning Strike"? I like the guessing game better than the results (not really, this not a million miles away from a lot of stuff I would have put in myself had I been arsed to finish off my votes)

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link


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