Pearl Jam - No Code

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I want to hear Yield now. Gotta find that somewhere.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"Mankind"! Is that the one that uses "enigmatic" in a lyric?

not sure. You really gotta sit there and go hmmmm to grab lyrics off this thing on the first spin. Kinda reminded me of the D-Plan for some reason. Has the high-voiced chorus hook. I dug that.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

And if you listened too carefully you might get turned off. Eddie had entered the Ravi Shankar phase of his spiritual quest.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard Nusret Fateh Ali Khan. I just know that Tim Robbins, Joan Osbourne and Eddie were mad about the dude.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah! "Long Road"! When I saw PJ in 2003 Corin Tucker added eerie harmonies.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

if anybody has an mp3 of Corin joining the band for "Hunger Strike," hook me up.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha ha "geez Eddie say something" = "please please more shout-along sloganeering". Jeremy's still speaking, mang! Shout it out loud!

Radio around my parts played the bejeezus out of PJ right before No Code hit (and smeared). And, of course, all the Ten stuff on the "hard rock" stations (except when Vitalogy came out, and the alt.rock stations were playing album tracks left & right like "Tremor Christ" & "Spin the Black Circle") (though "Circle" was a single, I think). The one track they played the crap out of more than anything = "YELLOW LEDBETTER" BOO HISS. "Gee, why can't Pearl Jam rip off their hard rock influences more blatantly? Hendrix was cool! Eff Neil Young! Here's some Disturbed! Down! With! The sickness! oooohWAH-AH-AH-AH!"

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"Mankind" is probably the least PJ track on the album, & a rare occasion (aside from "Do The Evolution") where you can actually dance to a PJ song instead of sway & bob your head. Stone's vocals, the hook...there's very little of EV in the song, which might account for it's popiness[poppiness? poppyness?]. Shrug.

The hits defintely stopped coming after Vitalogy. Better Man was as far as it went, and after that the next biggest thing was Do The Evolution which didn't do much from what I remember. Does anyone think this had as much to do with less saleable songs as it did with their whole 'no video' policy? Curious. I always wondered how much that affected their popularity, if at all.

I didn't find VS patchy, I did find the choice of singles weird, because Dissident's probably the best song. Vitalogy is a way bumpier ride to my mind. Damn bugs. damn heyfoxymophandlemomathats me.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Dissident was a single, though! my brother had the CD single, it had a lot of b-sides. got a good amount of airplay, too, at least where I lived.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

and Blount's right, Yellow Ledbetter is the reason the Jeremy single was so big.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

christ - i'd somehow forgotten they'd stopped making videos!

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Really? Dissident was a single here? I guess it wasn't in Australia then. Or I just missed it completely. What were the b-sideS? The b-sides for the first 2 albums were defintely way cool...Dirty Frank on Evenflow had to be the best. Also stuff like Wash, and Footsteps, and yeah, Yellow Ledbetter definitely helped Jeremy.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i have a friend who mixes in liberal portions of "plush" when he sings "dissident" at karaoke - IT SOUNDS GREAT

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Better Man was as far as it went, and after that the next biggest thing was Do The Evolution which didn't do much from what I remember

actually "Wishlist" and especially "Given To Fly" did pretty well.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Doh. Would you believe "doing well" = "songs I like"?

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"Wishlist" is probably my favorite PJ ballad after "Off He Goes." It gets so much hate from hardcore Jam fans too.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, to revisit the "hey, they're ripping off Zeppelin! literally!" days when "Given To Fly" first hit (and then, in my region, missed) radio.

I guess hardcore fans cannot get w/ Eddie's Camaro metaphor.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"All Those Yesterdays" is it re: getting my PJ ballad fix, tho. (Go Stone!)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

'given to fly' was the biggest hit down here, and even then seemed to drop off considerably once yield actually hit and radio figured 'fuck - it ain't happening'. i heard 'wishlist' and 'do the evolution' a couple of times but not nearly as much as 'given to fly' and none of these anywhere remotely near as much as 'sour girl'.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember hating 'Given To Fly' when it came out. It pissed me off so much. In fact, I actually fell off the PJ wagon because of Yield ... which stands as a black mark on my name, apparently. My husband still rags on me about my not going to see them play in Melbourne in 1998, and I lived right down the street from the Rod Laver Arena at the time. All because of Yield. So because it took awhile to come around, I tend to forget about it when I'm talking about the PJ 'canon'. I eventually admitted I was a dumbass and professed my love for Given To Fly, wishlist, etc. So that's my story.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

All Those Yesterdays -- OTM. That was a gem of a discovery once I did get right with Yield. Stone always seems to capture the good things about pop music.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha ha - Blount, I kinda wish the stations up herre pushed "Sour Girl" 1/10th as much as they tried to push "Down". "No, really, rock is back! Listen! They mean it! Grrrr! Weiland is HARD!" No wonder most of the rawk stations in CT gave up the alt.ghost for the shock of the nu and/or retrenched as bastions of all things 70s and mullety.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Or just switched format to pimp out mostly-syndicated hip-hop shows (like Star & Buckwild / the Wendy Williams X-Foliant).

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

if you haven't already checked to see what 10 people are making it blossom, Pearl Jam - No Code (146 new answers) must seem pretty nuts

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you're overestimating the # of folks tricking this thread out, Anthony!

Note to local superstores: plz discount Superunknown so I can give into my urge to buy it again. This $15-16 buck crap ain't gonna cut it.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"Lakini's Juice" - C or D? (297 new answers)

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

You wackjob.

Marcy Playground: WTF? (187 new answers)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

They actually did release a video for "Do The Evolution" didn't they? All animation, done by Todd McFarlane. And Korn used McFarlane for one of their videos too!

Lingbertt, Monday, 14 March 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah miccio that 'jeremy' topten listing is a soundscan blip, they released (rereleased?) their 'ten' singles mid-nineties, pj fans (which were legion at the time) gotta gotta have whatever that b-side is (a dime sez it's "yellow ledbetter")
Funny that everyone talks about ledbetter, it was popular then- but the original jeremy single also featured a song called 'footsteps' that I still think ranks as one of the best PJ songs. The same music was used on a Temple of the Dog song, I forget which one....
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mclaugh (mclaugh), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Times Of Trouble is the Temple of the Dog track you're thinking of.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Really? Dissident was a single here? I guess it wasn't in Australia then. Or I just missed it completely. What were the b-sideS? The b-sides for the first 2 albums were defintely way cool...Dirty Frank on Evenflow had to be the best. Also stuff like Wash, and Footsteps, and yeah, Yellow Ledbetter definitely helped Jeremy.

-- VegemiteGrrl (sharonjo...), March 14th, 2005.

I think the b-sides were mostly live but there was also a Vs. outtake version of "Alone" (the version on Lost Dogs is a Ten outtake).

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Lakini's Juice" - C or D? (297 new answers)

-- miccio (anthonyisrigh...), March 14th, 2005.

if I was drinking something when I read that I would have spit it all over the screen.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

and yeah there was a video for "Do The Evolutioin", which was a sorta-big deal at the time (only got on TRL briefly, though), broke the 6-year no-video streak.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link

you guys who like the twangy acoustic stuff must love the "Down" disc of the Rearviewmirror comp, huh? I always got annoyed when they'd release songs like "Off He Goes" and "Nothing As It Seems" as singles, although some of that stuff is my favorite songs too.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The hits defintely stopped coming after Vitalogy.

Didn't "Last Kiss" go to #1?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Last Kiss" was kind of a fluke. I mean it was a hit, but basically what happened was it was on their Xmas single one year, then some DJs picked up on it, and they decided to release it as a retail single and donate the proceeds to charity, and it shot right up the charts because of that. so I could be wrong, but I think it might have just gone to #1 on the single sales chart, like those Bright Eyes singles.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Last Kiss" is easily my least favorite PJ song (that I've heard). At least "Glorified G" and "W.M.A." are funny.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised to know that Betterman was their biggest hit (mainstream rock chart), considering it wasn't even a single. I always thought that Last Kiss was their biggest hit.

buck van smack (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"last kiss" crossed over to ac - pj's biggest hit. crossing over to ac = the story of rock for almost ten years now.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i don't care what anyone says, 'who you are' is godawful. you'd think they'd never picked up a guitar before, and that's probably the point - this band loves to play the self-indulgent card.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Every time I find myself at Best Buy, I'm tempted to buy the last PJ album.

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

probably don't worry about it

'red mosquito' is great, actually

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"Lakini's Juice" - C or D? (297 new answers)
-- miccio (miccio), Monday, March 14, 2005 8:13 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

still hilarious

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:15 (sixteen years ago) link

also even though I'm obviously a big advocate for post-megastardom Pearl Jam, I have to say that Riot Act and especially the self-titled album are pretty awful records.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link

'in hiding' is a good pj song as far as the more (relatively) recent stuff goes.

the ballads haven't been good since vitalogy

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

No one was as shocked as I was. But it shouldn't have been, as they've improved with each album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the first track on No Code, but it's all ruined by the second one which comes in with all the welcomness of an irritating alarm clock.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

Ha - I actually prefer the cover art to the actual album (which has decent enough songs, but Eddie and/or the production just fucks 'em all up).

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah his vocal performances on that album are easily the worst of his career. beyond a couple decent singles I don't understand any of the love for s/t.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link


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