most pathetic excuse for wordplay in Young Money's "Bedrock"

zvookster's talking about the actual tradition of ciphers and battle rapping, i'm talking about the new school kabuki theater of major label rappers going on radio stations/BET/mixtapes and 99% of the time spitting something they wrote and memorized and it being called a 'freestyle,' and then that same world acting aghast when drake didn't have his shit memorized and read it off a screen

I'm just aghast that drake is.

so glad no one on ilx likes drake beyond as a minor psuedo-R&B figure

no rap fans at least, iirc someone nominated his mixtape or whatever in the 09 thread

these rappers say the most undope things but signal them like they are killer lines.

yeh so so otm

the saddest thing is that wayne is doing this now too

but i guess if these are the rappers he chooses to surround himself with...

i was walking down on miami beach all day on monday and i heard this coming from shops a few times & i def got some hearty laughs from walking past the storefronts and hearing "...SOCCER TEAM!" and then the song going out of earshot

I came in the door, I said it before, I'd never let the mic magnetize me... COMPASS!

hahaha

i remember in the first Answer Me! zine, and this was like 91 or 92, they called up famous rappers and had them "freestyle" over the phone and KRS One's was just one of his songs.

Yes! The rhythm, the rebel without a pause... HBO!

should have quit while you were ahead... DECAPITATION

allow me to lace these lyrical douches in your bushes... LANDSCAPING

i wanna rock right now, i'm rob base and i came to get down... YOGA

fuck with your soul like ether... ETHER

making ladies loco, flow like orinoco... ENYA

your heartbeat sounds like sasquatch feet... HARRY AND THE HENDERSONS

'bout to quote a pseudonym on a msg board... SOME DUDE

zvookster's talking about the actual tradition of ciphers and battle rapping, i'm talking about the new school kabuki theater of major label rappers going on radio stations/BET/mixtapes and 99% of the time spitting something they wrote and memorized and it being called a 'freestyle,' and then that same world acting aghast when drake didn't have his shit memorized and read it off a screen

― some dude

Not at all, I was carefully making a point... WHITTLING! that it's not kabuki and it's not all divided up like that. So not an exact "actual tradition of ciphers and battle rapping" (which you are too blase in writing off as another world from mainstream hip hop anyhow), but certainly something at least derived from traditions of rapping in the street and socio-economic conditions - not that everyone has to come up on corners, but being able to rap when given a window to, that ability being coded into what it means to be a rapper: that's what's going on when rappers do live radio sessions, not some pretense of on-the-spot creation. That the world you refer to was "aghast" backs this up: it's kind of ignorant to the point of disrespect or extreme corniness for Drake to be unaware of this. There are thousands current and past that no one will ever hear of, who'd kick something without a moment's hesitation given that opportunity, so regardless of how you came up, you still have to "come correct".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHiecnIJboQ

this song features Wayne saying "I been runnin' this shit...BLISTERS!!" and "I know the game...ANALYST!!!"

can't decide if it is better or worse that you ignore my taking the time to reply to you this time than your replying with points already debunked last time.

anyway, funny thread.

haha sorry dude i mainly came in here to post the youtube and i saw your post but couldn't really think of any reply to it other than "good point, duly noted" or something

lol ok sorry, thought it was probably a diss. hugs all round.

... CIRCLE OF HUGS

I keep her running back and forth...SOCCER TEAM!!!

not going to listen to the song just in case the actual delivery of this line is less hilarious than how i'm imagining it

― samosa gibreel, Friday, January 8, 2010 2:49 PM Bookmark

I should have followed the same principle - - the actual song is so much more boring than how it went in my head, with a bunch of people in the background joining together to yell the punchline, kinda like a Beastie Boys song but with less flow cause this shit really doesn't scan, the way it's written here. A+++ thread btw.

on the rmx of 'mixin up the medicine' on trunk muzik juelz does this: 'you wanna get loud you get blasted...BOOMBOX' - still less embarrassing than any of the ones in this poll imo

I Race For Your Love, Shake And Bake... RICKY BOBBY

^^^should have been an option

that one's relatively subtle by the song's standards, though, and doesn't have an awkward pause. would have to be more like "i race for your love...FORMULA ONE!!!"

gotta be the asbestos

there's gotta be a beastie boys song where they do this

the first person that discovers any pre-2000 example of this wins a prize

The closest I can get is "You Be Illin'" which is really just a factor of cadence rather than an actual example.

i mean i have a thousand examples of the cadence

the first person that discovers any pre-2000 example of this wins a prize

No soap ... RADIO!!!

'He say my pussy pretty / just like it's show art / He make my pussy sing / "aaaaaa" like it's Mozart / And when he taps it / I make my pussy fart / I'm such an actress/ Melissa Joan Hart'

- Nicki Minaj

Not from this song or album, true, but just... yeah.

i gotta say i gave a lil lol at "melissa joan hart"

thats a good line lmao

yeah rhyming that with "I make my pussy fart" is pretty incredible

although "I make my pussy talk" would've made for a better reference to Sabrina The Teenage Witch

haha

al should probably be ghostwriting for these dudes. you could be the next Skillz

dont worry if i write checks -- i write rhymes!!!

a few of my display names have been optioned by rappers, but i signed a non-disclosure agreement so i won't say which or who

jay leno bought a few

and look at him now

K***** S******* is "Call me Mr.Flinstone I can make your bed rock "!!!!!! best line ever !!1

mozart wasn't really known for his singing

I think "now we murderers, because we kill time," while not the most pathetic excuse for wordplay, kind of summarizes the problems with the song pretty well. "Well, this hook is going to take us to the top of the charts no matter what, just say whatever in between, it'll be fine."

haha, it's funny to be bragging about killing time

because we hang out... LAUNDRY

my wrist so chilly...ITS SPICY