most pathetic excuse for wordplay in Young Money's "Bedrock"

we're getting really close to rap being Scary Movie 3 where people are just gonna start rapping the names of things in pop culture with no context or punchlines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWl-Rh7KVgQ

i really hope nicki's album is more like this when it drops and less like "hedgehog, sonic the" or "...ASBESTOS!!!"

It's the loveliest, longest, lean---I call it the leanest
It's another five letter word rhymin' with cleanest, the meanest....PENIS!

"hedgehog, sonic the" is kind of dope

haha im saying

that's better but i really get annoyed at that exagerrated way she says shit like "waaaaaaayne" like sounds like a cross between a an american trying to sound like cockney chimney sweep and a valley girl or some shit

On this train
Will it always rain?
Try to analyze
This led venture
Songless sky, digital bug-eye
Octogonal seams so much clearer
Indiscrete, status incomplete
To provide me with
Something better

shit that was supposed to be on the voivod lyrics thread in case you thought i was posting lyrics from cannibal ox in the young money thread

lol

thx for clarifying that...OCTOGONAL SEAMS!!!

yeah, actually shipley made that one up since in the actual song it's delivered in classic hip-hop simile form

― steady mmmobyn (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, January 8, 2010 2:51 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

there's definitely a version where he says "like a" but i swear the one i usually hear in the video/on the radio there's just a pause between "forth" and "soccer"

there's two versions, ship's right.

of course, it's a bitch finding an embeddable version of the official video on youtube, but it's there

there's two versions, ship's right.

― lazy cold meat and chocolate seasonal mentality (forksclovetofu), Friday, January 8, 2010 5:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

...STARBOARD

...POLARIS TWO BY FOUR

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

never heard gudda gudda before this but man he's making a case for worst rapper ive ever heard

is it gudda gudda like "gutter gutter" or gudda gudda like "gouda gouda"?

option a iirc

btw i voted "grocery bag" because the earnest attempts to parse it in this thread still came up short

is it gudda gudda like "gutter gutter" or gudda gudda like "gouda gouda"?

― rap wacksodic (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, January 8, 2010 7:12 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

...TOO (two) CHEESY (cheeses)

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13810-we-are-young-money/

havent listened to the album aside from this turd, but it's rare that i disagree with evey single point a writer tries to make in a review.

havent gotten to the actual crit yet tho, if theres any

at least they fixed the front page blurb, which at one point said something like "in the spirit of Dipset, G-Side, and The Family," which until I read the review made me think it was some left field reference to the Prince proteges and not the group name nobody cared about Puff Daddy's No Way Out being credited to

yeah i didn't even bother posting about that blurb because of it's sheer wtfness

this song is more real than real... BAUDRILLARD

it might've been a rerun but i saw young money on mo'nique today, i really liked nicki minaj and one of the young dudes. i think he was called tiga tiga or something. nicki is so amazing looking and sweet.

oh and in the performance of this song weezy did say, " ... socccer team" and not "like a soccer team" and it was predictably not that hilarious.

lmbo @ the number of votes this poll got

this is totally speculative, but i think part of the problem with these guys may be that theyre trying to emulate wayne and rhyme off the top of the head. The best--him, jay, etc.--can pull it off or even thrive rhyming that way but i cant imagine anyone writing down the grocery bag line without immediately throwing it in the direction of the nearest trash bin.

on the other hand didnt drake "freestyle" on hot 97 while reading from a piece of paper?

Meanwhile, upstart producers Chase N. Cashe and Kane Beatz keep things moving sonically, whether it's CNC's baroque, Grizzly Bear-esque (!) beat for "New Shit" or Beatz's bright and haughty instrumental for the hit "Bedrock", which wouldn't sound out of place on a Wes Anderson hip-hop movie score

on the other hand didnt drake "freestyle" on hot 97 while reading from a piece of paper?

― not really.. (killah priest), Saturday, January 9, 2010 9:30 AM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

everyone 'freestyles' writtens these days, & it was from his blackberry

yeah drake's crime there was really just not memorizing his shit to keep up the illusion of 'freestyling' that everyone in the rap industry had agreed upon

noone cries foul when jay does a hot97 freestyle and then the entire thing shows up as a verse in a song 6 months later

that isn't really right. off the dome and written but impromptu rhymes (live over a dj's beat or a beatbox, or even a capella where there is no degree of improvisation) have both been called "freestyles" for decades with no one really pretending that the second kind were the first.

some rappers who claim to improvise totally are accused of spitting written rhymes, and some cretinous "underground" or battle rap circuit fans confuse the two and bemoan the "fake" ones, but they're different cases.

hmmm although you can still improvise in the manner of your delivery a capella. and hence anything over an old instrumental being a "freestyle" on mixtapes be they ever so rehearsed and with punch-ins, double-tracked vocals, whatever.

drake pulling up lyrics (which i've just learned about from this thread) is deeply wack to me because in any functional street schooling he'd be laughed out of ever rapping again if he fished around for a pad to spit on a corner. so that's the whole tradition that you're showing unawareness of when you do that. but i wonder if that's to do with being from toronto or a child star, or if its to do with hip hop not having folk roots anymore even in the forms of collective memory. the lack of concern you guys have suggests it has to do with the latter.

likewise the rhymes themselves suggest my conception of things is a relic. rappers in this style used to say dope things like it wasn't no thing and make the next guy go "whaaat" or the listener rewind. that was part of the style. these rappers say the most undope things but signal them like they are killer lines.

zvookster severely on the money

yah

zvookster's talking about the actual tradition of ciphers and battle rapping, i'm talking about the new school kabuki theater of major label rappers going on radio stations/BET/mixtapes and 99% of the time spitting something they wrote and memorized and it being called a 'freestyle,' and then that same world acting aghast when drake didn't have his shit memorized and read it off a screen

I'm just aghast that drake is.

so glad no one on ilx likes drake beyond as a minor psuedo-R&B figure

no rap fans at least, iirc someone nominated his mixtape or whatever in the 09 thread

these rappers say the most undope things but signal them like they are killer lines.

yeh so so otm

the saddest thing is that wayne is doing this now too

but i guess if these are the rappers he chooses to surround himself with...

i was walking down on miami beach all day on monday and i heard this coming from shops a few times & i def got some hearty laughs from walking past the storefronts and hearing "...SOCCER TEAM!" and then the song going out of earshot

I came in the door, I said it before, I'd never let the mic magnetize me... COMPASS!

hahaha

i remember in the first Answer Me! zine, and this was like 91 or 92, they called up famous rappers and had them "freestyle" over the phone and KRS One's was just one of his songs.

Yes! The rhythm, the rebel without a pause... HBO!

should have quit while you were ahead... DECAPITATION