Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

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Yeah, I was really hoping he'd go.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

:( was also so so hopeful he wld be gone

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Monday, 4 January 2010 00:49 (six years ago) Permalink

tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Monday, 4 January 2010 00:49 (six years ago) Permalink

I was vainly hoping for a score of eerie ambient electronic noises.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:27 (six years ago) Permalink

tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Yeah, it's the intrusiveness which bugs me, which is surely a failing of some sound editor, rather than Gold himself. THough I, too, would love a return to Radiophonic Workshop ambient weirdo stuff.

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:54 (six years ago) Permalink

I suppose my problem is more with the mixing than the score itself, but my feelings towards Mr Gold were not greatly improved by that Doctor Who Prom they did (christ knows why I was watching this - that time of day where sitting mindlessly in front of someone else's telly choices is about all I can manage I suppose) mentioning Murray Gold's Amazing Wonderful Doctor Who Theme Tune approx 6000 times, Ron Grainer maybe once, Delia Derbyshire 0 times

brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 4 January 2010 09:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i reckon if they're going to rip off windowlicker so badly, they might as well hand over the score-writing duties to mr richard d james - not like he's doing anything much else at the moment except hanging round the synth shed smoking weed

that would be a welcome return to weird radiophonic noises

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 4 January 2010 11:24 (six years ago) Permalink

I really don't know why Moffat would get rid of everything else from the RTD era, but decide that Murray Gold is a keeper.

think his normal footwear will be black boots

The boots are Prada.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 4 January 2010 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

All a bit wibbly-wobbly torchy-worchy.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Looks like an old-school Doctor there, right enough

stet, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:37 (six years ago) Permalink

A dalek turned up in "better off ted" this week.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:48 (six years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Awesome choice of picture there.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:43 (six years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, January 7, 2010 10:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

karen, i was on the fence about your whole steez, but this is the second lame anti-ginger comment in two days, so: get fucked, you highly annoying challops merchant/fake woman.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Hearsay and rumours that this series will contain Winston Churchill (could be awful) and Vincent Van Gogh (could be amazing).

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:46 (six years ago) Permalink

That's a decent line-up of writers, especially given that both the Unicorn & The Wasp and School Reunion are underrated episodes.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Set pic from the Vincent Van Gogh episode - http://imgur.com/MpnPR.jpg

There's other ones with what's supposedly the new 'bad wolf' running theme shown, too.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Simon Nye?? o_O

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Chibnall ;_;

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:13 (six years ago) Permalink

dear mr. mayne: i AM ginger

this might be why i notice these kinds of things?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:18 (six years ago) Permalink

am i missing something here or isn't 'karen' pretty obviously masonic boom?

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:23 (six years ago) Permalink

portmeirion :o

conrad, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:25 (six years ago) Permalink

“I’ve still got legs. Arms, hands, lots of fingers, eyes, hair,” said Smith, 27, after completing his regeneration from David Tennant. Checking his new look, the eleventh actor to play the Doctor continued: “I’m not a doll. I’m still not ginger.”

what the fucking fuck he said "I'm not a GIRL" not "I'm not a doll" surely

whole show is ruined otherwise

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:25 (six years ago) Permalink

the comment on that geek site linked to is rather wrong though - claims that the only historical personages the dr meets are writers?

since when was queen victoria a writer?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:26 (six years ago) Permalink

chibnall is doing the two-parter? argh

Roz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:28 (six years ago) Permalink

whilst Chris Chibnall (42) will pen a two-parter.

MEH. six Moffat eps tho, cup runneth over. question is who will be the new him and upstage the head writer?

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:29 (six years ago) Permalink

blueski is correct.

Ward the obvious thing you're missing is that Masonic Boom isn't ginger!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Six episodes is pretty hefty! Rusty usually did, what, four?

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:30 (six years ago) Permalink

he did 6 for s4. i guess it means Moffat will write the last 4 or 5, building up to big revelatory arc in similar way.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:33 (six years ago) Permalink

No Paul Cornell :(

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Ward the obvious thing you're missing is that Masonic Boom isn't ginger!

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:30 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

should i grow a beard?

joe, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Get this shit off our nice Doctor Who thread, thx.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:36 (six years ago) Permalink

word

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:37 (six years ago) Permalink

As a ginger w/no sense of humour I might normally mind that there comment but chose to hear it as slightly funny dig at everyone (apparently every Who watcher ever except on ILX) who takes violent exception to Donna for being, ooh, a bit ginger and over 25, both pretty shocking for a woman who gets allowed to be on the telly

seriously everyone I talk to abt Doctor Who except on here moans endlessly about her being the worst companion ever, which is just a bit silly if you look at the competition, even the nu-Who competition

(xposts) Hm, I was scanning for Cornell too. It says "returnees include" so I don't know if it's completely ruled out or not.

Don't know whether to be excited or worried about new Weeping Angels, since I loved Blink but thought it was very neat as a one-off.

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:38 (six years ago) Permalink

question is who will be the new him and upstage the head writer?

I'm guessing that would be Paul Cornell, but is he actually writing any?

I thought 42 was an okay, certainly non-terrible episode.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Just checked, Rusty wrote five episodes for each of his series.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:41 (six years ago) Permalink

don't know if this was addressed on the last thread or not as i walked in just as it was ending but donna is probably my favourite of the companions so far in nu-who not least for being a bit smarter, older, less in thrall to the doctor than rose or martha

didn't expect that at all as i don't rate catherine tate as an actor or a comedian

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I second that post.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Conrad: The "Portmeirion" sign should be ignored. It's just a point of sale banner for Portmeirion pottery in the window of the shop at Cardiff Millennium Centre (for that's where that particular scene was filmed). The rest of said episode was filmed in Croatia.

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:52 (six years ago) Permalink

But on topic, fuck a Crayons Chibnall two parter :(

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:55 (six years ago) Permalink

:o

conrad, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:56 (six years ago) Permalink

the planet Croatia i hope

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:56 (six years ago) Permalink

The other thing to remember is that Rusty rewrote or got people to revise scripts to fit his view of how the series should be and presumably Moffatt will do the same. So a Chibnall script for Moffatt could end up quite different to a Chibnall script for Davies.

Looking forward to the Gatiss one, given that Rusty apparently trashed his original script for The Unquiet Dead and made him take out a lot of the darker bits.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:00 (six years ago) Permalink

there's still strong anti-donna sentiment out there? i knew there was circa "Runaway Bride" but i thought people had gotten over it during S4. anyway i loved her and apparently i've self-selected places on the internet to go where everyone else loves her too.

Euclidian pizza mathematics (reddening), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:00 (six years ago) Permalink

does this also mean that moffat written script w/o rusty looking over his shoulder could be different from the moffat we've grown to expect?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Rusty said he didn't change Moffatt's scripts at all, so maybe not.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

half-serious point but presumably now there will be fewer gay references? the occasional background character notwithstanding. i just can't imagine anyone consciously inserting gayness into proceedings with half as much vigour as Rusty.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:07 (six years ago) Permalink

"inserting", "vigour"

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:09 (six years ago) Permalink

ITS LIKE I'M HIM

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:09 (six years ago) Permalink

:D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 22:11 (one month ago) Permalink

great, he should stay on indefinitely

akm, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 23:03 (one month ago) Permalink

Eh, indefinitely wears thin after a while - Matt Smith was great to start with, but then he (or I suspect Moffat) wore that into a nub of antics. On the plus side, the best two seasons so far have been a show-runner's first.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 23:08 (one month ago) Permalink

On the minus side, neither of those showrunners have been Chris Chibnall.

chap, Thursday, 4 August 2016 09:20 (one month ago) Permalink

On the plus side, the best two seasons so far have been a show-runner's first.

I'd argue pretty strongly that 4 > 1

Don't boo, vote (DJP), Thursday, 4 August 2016 13:19 (one month ago) Permalink

I can see that argument, I prefer Donna over Rose, but I prefer Ecclestone a lot over Tennant (I should in fairness go back and rewatch them, I may have softened on Tennant, he'd just really really worn out his welcome, and that was before the never-ending goodbye).

A lot of the stories in Season 4 are just a bit meh (Partners in Crime, Planet of the Ood, The Doctor's Daughter, The Unicorn and the Wasp), though it does really build towards a storming end, which definitely affected me more than either The Parting of the Ways or Doomsday.

Whereas apart from the silly Aliens of London / World War III, the first series has Rose / The End of the World / Dalek / The Long Game / Father's Day / The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances / Boom Town / Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways - that's definitely enough to tip it over for me.

A lot of this is definitely affected by its context as the first new Doctor Who season, and the poses it sets out about what a new DW could be - The End of the World is a MASSIVE beneficiary of this, for example - but that's still the context I know it in.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 August 2016 14:48 (one month ago) Permalink

I like 9 over 10 as far as Doctors go but 4 was an incredible season (not to take away from 1 because that was also incredible)

Don't boo, vote (DJP), Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Season 1 is still my favourite, probably, if only because it gave me by far the most joy at the time.

apart from the silly Aliens of London / World War III

I even thought this was good back in the day!

chap, Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:45 (one month ago) Permalink

A lot of the stories in Season 4 are just a bit meh (Partners in Crime, Planet of the Ood, The Doctor's Daughter, The Unicorn and the Wasp)

I think two of those are good! But would agree on the other two.

chap, Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:46 (one month ago) Permalink

The first half of S4 ranges from meh to complete shit (the Doctor's Daughter) but it turns a corner after that one and the second half is very strong.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:58 (one month ago) Permalink

The first half of S4 ranges from meh to complete shit (the Doctor's Daughter) but it turns a corner after that one

You could say it turns left.

Pleeesiosaur (Leee), Thursday, 4 August 2016 17:54 (one month ago) Permalink

JUst seeing headlines on Facebook about Capaldi definitely staying beyond season 10 which, is nice.

These are presumably responses to Moffat merely saying, in April this year, that Capaldi hadn't given notice that he would need to be written out in the 2017 Christmas special; he's on one-year contracts, and they haven't started filming S10 yet, let alone Moffat having to think about writing the episode which will shoot next year.

Possibly this information appeared behind the headlines; I don't know how Facebook works.

Shakey δσς (sic), Friday, 5 August 2016 04:30 (one month ago) Permalink


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