Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

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xxp Just different ones! New dr, new shoes. Plus converse + smart troos is so noughties.

CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

i figure during the first episode he will explain the TARDIS having the ability to regenerate itself...for HIGH DEF

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

think his normal footwear will be black boots xpost

moron oil (Gukbe), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

good choice

CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Richard Curtis has written an episode featuring Vincent Van Gogh "stabbing a yellow monster".

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

> 6 billion masters trying to triangulate the signal

the listen for the space station thing was terrible, right up there with Prof Farnworth's Smelloscope

koogs, Saturday, 2 January 2010 19:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

Haha, posts from one thread are starting to seep thru to the other.

"the fabric of reality is melting, again, Doctor!"

kingfish, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Am I the only who finds Matt Smith kind of unattractive?

Leee, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

he's got kinda an ugly-hot thing going on, but better that than a teenybopper heartthrob IMO

musically, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

While those swashbuckling vampire-like thingies in the trailer look pretty cool, haven't we reached vamp saturation point? Which made me think, perhaps they're not vampires at all, but haemovores, like in Curse of Fenric? The return of Fenric? That could be interesting...

Stew, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

Matt Smith is Easter Island on legs.

sacher torte reform (suzy), Saturday, 2 January 2010 21:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

He's no McDreamy McGann, but he has a certain awkward Chess Club hotness about him.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 2 January 2010 21:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

That pic of them running makes it look like they're late for the Riverdance.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spotted somewhere else, posted here:

kingfish, Sunday, 3 January 2010 09:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Matt Smith is Easter Island on legs.

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Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 3 January 2010 10:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

why are time lords' hairs so oddly gelled in recent years?

did shockwaves have an intergalactic outpost on gallifrey before the fall?

Karen Tregaskin, Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

They're supposed to be Silurians I believe, although they look more like Sea Devils and they even have the Sea Devils' heat ray. And yes, they are vampires (in Venice, I think).

I do like in the clip the shocked look on his face when he punches the guy. I'm just hoping the leaked audio clip from a few months ago isn't typcal of his performance.

Never in, Kuyt (aldo), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Silurians and Sea Monsters are cousins anyway so np.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sea Devils even, jaysus.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

The one thing Moffatt has consistently done better than any Dr Who writer is tapping into things that genuinely do scare children shitless. So anything involving vampires is good with me, especially in Venice (which means vampires wearing CARNIVAL MASKS dudes).

Pretty sure this season will be better than any nu-Who series with the possible exception of the first one. More historical shit and alien planets, fewer identikit industrial spaceships please. Also, needs more MYSTERY. It'd be great if the reason the finale was a Must Watch was because something massive was going to be revealed, rather than yer usual bombastic Davies ending.

Presumably Moffatt got Davies to drop in the Weeping Angels as imprisoned Timelords bit as something he's planning on developing in some way. Wonder if he's had something like that in mind since the start - it would make sense given that they can move people around in time and feed off the energy.

Given Moffatt, IIRC, was the first dude to write Tennant's Doctor as hormonal girl-snogging drunken tit in The Girl In The Fireplace, I'd say anyone looking for Matt Smith to be an old-skool sexless Doctor will be disappointed. Also, well, River Song. Moffatt is really good at doing emo anyway.

Matt Smith is going to do a lot of gurning, isn't he? I just hope there isn't a big public backlash due to him not being Tennant that scuppers this series.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

Given Moffatt, IIRC, was the first dude to write Tennant's Doctor as hormonal girl-snogging drunken tit in The Girl In The Fireplace, I'd say anyone looking for Matt Smith to be an old-skool sexless Doctor will be disappointed. Also, well, River Song. Moffatt is really good at doing emo anyway.

Moffatt set this development up way earlier with Ecclescake and "The Doctor Dances". But yes I agree he will probably be better than RTD at emo/romance bits - one of my favourite "aw" parts was in Silence in the Library, at the end when Donna just misses out on meeting her virtual husband. He's good at writing these really simple but effective scenes. none of RTD's soppy soliloquys.

Roz, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Every time I watch that season trailer I get more excitable. This is gonna rock bells fuiud.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah Ecclestone's Doctor was more sheepish and embarassed geek than Tennant's full on drunken adolescent though - "Rose, I'm trying to resonate concrete" etc.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh of course, i just meant that Moffatt arguably started the whole "the Doctor isn't an asexual weirdo after all" on nu-Who.

Roz, Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the difference is that Moffatt can do emotions and characters and stuff like that and Rusty...well, y'know...a fucking lottery ticket???????

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

which means vampires wearing CARNIVAL MASKS dudes

too similar to TGITF surely

just really interested to see how Moffat deals with the show outside his previous confines (writing the scary episode, not dealing with classic enemies) and how he'll do opening episodes and finales differently from RTD

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

THIS IS PRETTY SHIT NEWS, TBH:

The soundtrack website Music From The Movies has a new interview with Doctor Who composer Murray Gold, in which Gold confirms that he will be staying on to compose the music for the 2010 series of Doctor Who.

In the interview, Gold discusses composing and recording the scores for "The End of Time" and the other 2009 specials. He also mentions that he has already begun work on a new version of the Doctor Who theme for 2010, and that the forthcoming series will feature scripts by Mark Gatiss and Gareth Roberts.

http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.com/2010/01/murray-gold-returns.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ew, yes.

Alba, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh ffs I was sure that the terrible score for the last ep was a swan song.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was really hoping he'd go.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

:( was also so so hopeful he wld be gone

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Monday, 4 January 2010 00:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Monday, 4 January 2010 00:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

I was vainly hoping for a score of eerie ambient electronic noises.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Yeah, it's the intrusiveness which bugs me, which is surely a failing of some sound editor, rather than Gold himself. THough I, too, would love a return to Radiophonic Workshop ambient weirdo stuff.

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

I suppose my problem is more with the mixing than the score itself, but my feelings towards Mr Gold were not greatly improved by that Doctor Who Prom they did (christ knows why I was watching this - that time of day where sitting mindlessly in front of someone else's telly choices is about all I can manage I suppose) mentioning Murray Gold's Amazing Wonderful Doctor Who Theme Tune approx 6000 times, Ron Grainer maybe once, Delia Derbyshire 0 times

brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 4 January 2010 09:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

i reckon if they're going to rip off windowlicker so badly, they might as well hand over the score-writing duties to mr richard d james - not like he's doing anything much else at the moment except hanging round the synth shed smoking weed

that would be a welcome return to weird radiophonic noises

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 4 January 2010 11:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

I really don't know why Moffat would get rid of everything else from the RTD era, but decide that Murray Gold is a keeper.

think his normal footwear will be black boots

The boots are Prada.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 4 January 2010 14:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

All a bit wibbly-wobbly torchy-worchy.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

Looks like an old-school Doctor there, right enough

stet, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

A dalek turned up in "better off ted" this week.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Awesome choice of picture there.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, January 7, 2010 10:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

karen, i was on the fence about your whole steez, but this is the second lame anti-ginger comment in two days, so: get fucked, you highly annoying challops merchant/fake woman.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hearsay and rumours that this series will contain Winston Churchill (could be awful) and Vincent Van Gogh (could be amazing).

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's a decent line-up of writers, especially given that both the Unicorn & The Wasp and School Reunion are underrated episodes.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Set pic from the Vincent Van Gogh episode - http://imgur.com/MpnPR.jpg

There's other ones with what's supposedly the new 'bad wolf' running theme shown, too.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

Simon Nye?? o_O

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

Chibnall ;_;

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

dear mr. mayne: i AM ginger

this might be why i notice these kinds of things?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Clara turns out to be his granddaughter.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:09 (8 months ago) Permalink

ha it just occurred to me that they could bring back Susan any time they wanted to by the magic of regeneration

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

actress is still alive so hopefully they'd give her the dignity of a regeneration scene

akm, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

Susan is used really well, and played by Carole Ann Ford, in "season 4" of Big Finish's McGann stories.

also :( at discussing plot points itt seven months before the stories air

I got the Poison, I got the Rammellzee (sic), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

Well, what should people do for seven months then?

Tuomas, Friday, 28 February 2014 09:57 (7 months ago) Permalink

Btw, I just saw "Star Trek: Into Dumbness", and I was kinda wondering: am I the only one who thought the guy at beginning of the movie (played by Noel Clarke) was actually Mickey, stranded in the 23th century because of some TARDIS-related hijinks?

Tuomas, Friday, 28 February 2014 10:01 (7 months ago) Permalink

Sorry sic, I momentarily forgot the spoiler policy on Doctor Who.

Tuomas, Doctor Who threads are pretty much a complete spoiler free zone. One the episode has aired in the UK it's fine for discussion, although there may still be people (and I tend to abide by this) hold back on particularly spoilery things until US and AUS airings (or enough time for people to obtain nefariously if airtime is way off).

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 10:21 (7 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I get that, but I don't think the "no spoilers" policy should apply to people speculating about future plotlines? AFAIK none of us are working in the Dr. Who staff, so it's just pure speculation for fun, not actually spoiling anything. IMO this sort of speculation and guessing is big part of the fun of fandom, and it happens on pretty much all ILM TV show threads.

Tuomas, Friday, 28 February 2014 10:28 (7 months ago) Permalink

"ILE TV show threads"

Tuomas, Friday, 28 February 2014 10:29 (7 months ago) Permalink

remember how delightful the first 20 seconds of the 50th anniversary special were? imagine being similarly surprised and heartwarmed by there turning out to be a new male companion who's a teacher at Coal Hill School when you actually watch the episode, not half a year or more before it airs.

Charles, hatless (sic), Friday, 28 February 2014 10:43 (7 months ago) Permalink

I see that, but OTOH there are people (like myself) who like to discuss official Who-related news, such as the announcement of a new companion (which is on the BBC site, not in some gossip mag). Should there be two different threads, one for us, and one for those who want to remain completely spoiler-free? I mean, if we're being strict about spoilers, no one in this thread should've even mentioned Peter Capaldi until "The Day of the Doctor" had aired... Or maybe even until "The Time of the Doctor" had aired, since you didn't see his full face in "Day" and he's uncredited there.

Tuomas, Friday, 28 February 2014 10:59 (7 months ago) Permalink

we did this already

every time you sneer at "white boys with guitars" a Ramone dies (onimo), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:02 (7 months ago) Permalink

Excatly, and that's why I'm apologising to sic.

Sorry again.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:30 (7 months ago) Permalink

I dunno I kind of think if you're that precious about spoilers maybe you should just avoid the internet.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:36 (7 months ago) Permalink

We've done that before as well.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:42 (7 months ago) Permalink

I haven't done anything.

Tuomas, Friday, 28 February 2014 11:43 (7 months ago) Permalink

New board description.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:48 (7 months ago) Permalink

^^^We've done this before but obviously need to look at the issue again.

If something (casting and the tiny bit of info that accompanies same, generally) is on the BBC site it really isn't a spoiler. There's a point at which others' need to be cocooned from all information is just not a realistic thing to ask from other people on an internet discussion board. Speculation is fun, too.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 28 February 2014 12:02 (7 months ago) Permalink

OTM.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 28 February 2014 12:04 (7 months ago) Permalink

remember how delightful the first 20 seconds of the 50th anniversary special were? imagine being similarly surprised and heartwarmed by there turning out to be a new male companion who's a teacher at Coal Hill School when you actually watch the episode, not half a year or more before it airs.

― Charles, hatless (sic), Friday, February 28, 2014 10:43 AM (3 hours ago)

This is the responsibility of the BBC - they're the ones releasing the information. If they think the information piques interest rather than spoils surprises then that's their prerogative. Expecting people not to talk about information released by the official sources is ridiculous. Expecting people not to speculate is also ridiculous (and as Tuomas says, nobody here works on the show, speculation != spoilers). Obviously posting leaks from insiders, digitalspy etc is not on, but in all my time reading these threads I think that's happened, like, twice?

emil.y, Friday, 28 February 2014 14:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

The Beeb never give anything too important away really. Though I'd quite like it if regenerations were complete surprises, but it would be rather impractical to keep a change of lead actor in a massively popular show secret.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 28 February 2014 14:55 (7 months ago) Permalink

I didn't think posting casting news from the BBC website was a spoiler.

Wahaca Flocka Flame (DJP), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:05 (7 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was thinking recently it'd be great if they sprung one just in the middle of the course of normal events, in the middle of a season somewhere. I do sort of sympathise with sic's position about (good) surprises being 'delightful', but that's the idiosyncratic position - most people like to read introductions, watch trailers, look up a synopsis, read a review etc before they consume media.

xp - it's not!

emil.y, Friday, 28 February 2014 15:08 (7 months ago) Permalink

i've not seen much of this show the last few years but when i was following it, because i am quite precious about spoilers, i figured not reading this thread or others like it was the only reasonable way to go tbh

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:09 (7 months ago) Permalink

nothing stopping people setting up an "absolutely nothing that cd be construed as a spoiler in this thread" thread, i'd've thought?

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:10 (7 months ago) Permalink

I do understand how it would be fun to watch an episode with no prior knowledge and be like 'Oh shit it's an Ice Warrior!', but I think if you're serious about seeking that kind of experience you should have the discipline to not go on threads like this.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:12 (7 months ago) Permalink

We've been though this before and even officially sanctioned BBC interwebs were out of bounds (iirc it was because Karen Gillen said before the season finale in a BBC televised interview she was coming back the next season).

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:15 (7 months ago) Permalink

god for a bunch of time travel show nerds yall sure are wedded to your own timeline

j., Friday, 28 February 2014 15:19 (7 months ago) Permalink

congrats to former ilxor al ew1ng and my pal nick abad3is on getting to write new doctor who comics:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=51164

Ward Fowler, Friday, 28 February 2014 18:30 (7 months ago) Permalink

I'm as much of a spoilerphobe as there is on ILX (I avoid film trailers, tv promos, the copy on the back of novels/jackets, etc.), but if you follow Who even tangentially on the internet, something on the level of a new companion joining the cast is going to be impossible to avoid. It's the simply cost of being on the Internet, and a well-crafted episode will spring the surprise and delight on you no matter your foreknowledge -- I'm sure that a lot of us weren't going to be ~surprised~ that Capaldi would make a cameo in the 50th, if not actually expecting/anticipating it, but the way the show did it still managed to provoke a strong, visceral geekout.

eeeLuvium (Leee), Friday, 28 February 2014 19:05 (7 months ago) Permalink

it's not the announcement of casting I was talking about, and no idea at all why ppl think I was saying anything about speculation*; just the specific plot info that Clara will be returning to Coal Hill School and etc etc as mentioned.

*obv now we know, it'd be a little sad to not at least see the headmaster in the background of a scene, after the security guard in Adventure In Space And Time

Charles, hatless (sic), Friday, 28 February 2014 23:29 (7 months ago) Permalink

Wait, really?

Lee with three E's (Leee), Friday, 28 February 2014 23:31 (7 months ago) Permalink

Wasn't Clara already shown teaching in the school in The Time of the Doctor?

Tuomas, Saturday, 1 March 2014 11:58 (7 months ago) Permalink

no, Day Of, like I said

Charles, hatless (sic), Saturday, 1 March 2014 12:09 (7 months ago) Permalink

Well anyway, what I meant is that it isn't a huge spoiler she's teaching there by series 8, is it, if we're already seen her there in a previous episode?

Tuomas, Saturday, 1 March 2014 15:01 (7 months ago) Permalink

Burying the lede here, I think - a1 ew1ng doing a Matt Smith comic? That's pretty cool.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 1 March 2014 15:18 (7 months ago) Permalink

she couldn't be returning if she hadn't already been there.

Charles, hatless (sic), Saturday, 1 March 2014 23:30 (7 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

There's a new teaser trailer thing for series 8, someone start a nu thread with a witty title.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:08 (4 months ago) Permalink

fingers crossed thread title incorporates 'Fuckity Bye'

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:09 (4 months ago) Permalink

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY: nu-Who season 8

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:12 (4 months ago) Permalink

Kissing u.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:13 (4 months ago) Permalink


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