Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

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xxp Just different ones! New dr, new shoes. Plus converse + smart troos is so noughties.

CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

i figure during the first episode he will explain the TARDIS having the ability to regenerate itself...for HIGH DEF

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

think his normal footwear will be black boots xpost

moron oil (Gukbe), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

good choice

CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Richard Curtis has written an episode featuring Vincent Van Gogh "stabbing a yellow monster".

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

> 6 billion masters trying to triangulate the signal

the listen for the space station thing was terrible, right up there with Prof Farnworth's Smelloscope

koogs, Saturday, 2 January 2010 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haha, posts from one thread are starting to seep thru to the other.

"the fabric of reality is melting, again, Doctor!"

kingfish, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Am I the only who finds Matt Smith kind of unattractive?

Leee, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's got kinda an ugly-hot thing going on, but better that than a teenybopper heartthrob IMO

musically, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

While those swashbuckling vampire-like thingies in the trailer look pretty cool, haven't we reached vamp saturation point? Which made me think, perhaps they're not vampires at all, but haemovores, like in Curse of Fenric? The return of Fenric? That could be interesting...

Stew, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Matt Smith is Easter Island on legs.

sacher torte reform (suzy), Saturday, 2 January 2010 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

He's no McDreamy McGann, but he has a certain awkward Chess Club hotness about him.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 2 January 2010 21:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

That pic of them running makes it look like they're late for the Riverdance.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Spotted somewhere else, posted here:

kingfish, Sunday, 3 January 2010 09:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Matt Smith is Easter Island on legs.

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Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 3 January 2010 10:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

why are time lords' hairs so oddly gelled in recent years?

did shockwaves have an intergalactic outpost on gallifrey before the fall?

Karen Tregaskin, Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

They're supposed to be Silurians I believe, although they look more like Sea Devils and they even have the Sea Devils' heat ray. And yes, they are vampires (in Venice, I think).

I do like in the clip the shocked look on his face when he punches the guy. I'm just hoping the leaked audio clip from a few months ago isn't typcal of his performance.

Never in, Kuyt (aldo), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Silurians and Sea Monsters are cousins anyway so np.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sea Devils even, jaysus.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

The one thing Moffatt has consistently done better than any Dr Who writer is tapping into things that genuinely do scare children shitless. So anything involving vampires is good with me, especially in Venice (which means vampires wearing CARNIVAL MASKS dudes).

Pretty sure this season will be better than any nu-Who series with the possible exception of the first one. More historical shit and alien planets, fewer identikit industrial spaceships please. Also, needs more MYSTERY. It'd be great if the reason the finale was a Must Watch was because something massive was going to be revealed, rather than yer usual bombastic Davies ending.

Presumably Moffatt got Davies to drop in the Weeping Angels as imprisoned Timelords bit as something he's planning on developing in some way. Wonder if he's had something like that in mind since the start - it would make sense given that they can move people around in time and feed off the energy.

Given Moffatt, IIRC, was the first dude to write Tennant's Doctor as hormonal girl-snogging drunken tit in The Girl In The Fireplace, I'd say anyone looking for Matt Smith to be an old-skool sexless Doctor will be disappointed. Also, well, River Song. Moffatt is really good at doing emo anyway.

Matt Smith is going to do a lot of gurning, isn't he? I just hope there isn't a big public backlash due to him not being Tennant that scuppers this series.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Given Moffatt, IIRC, was the first dude to write Tennant's Doctor as hormonal girl-snogging drunken tit in The Girl In The Fireplace, I'd say anyone looking for Matt Smith to be an old-skool sexless Doctor will be disappointed. Also, well, River Song. Moffatt is really good at doing emo anyway.

Moffatt set this development up way earlier with Ecclescake and "The Doctor Dances". But yes I agree he will probably be better than RTD at emo/romance bits - one of my favourite "aw" parts was in Silence in the Library, at the end when Donna just misses out on meeting her virtual husband. He's good at writing these really simple but effective scenes. none of RTD's soppy soliloquys.

Roz, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Every time I watch that season trailer I get more excitable. This is gonna rock bells fuiud.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah Ecclestone's Doctor was more sheepish and embarassed geek than Tennant's full on drunken adolescent though - "Rose, I'm trying to resonate concrete" etc.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh of course, i just meant that Moffatt arguably started the whole "the Doctor isn't an asexual weirdo after all" on nu-Who.

Roz, Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the difference is that Moffatt can do emotions and characters and stuff like that and Rusty...well, y'know...a fucking lottery ticket???????

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

which means vampires wearing CARNIVAL MASKS dudes

too similar to TGITF surely

just really interested to see how Moffat deals with the show outside his previous confines (writing the scary episode, not dealing with classic enemies) and how he'll do opening episodes and finales differently from RTD

mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

THIS IS PRETTY SHIT NEWS, TBH:

The soundtrack website Music From The Movies has a new interview with Doctor Who composer Murray Gold, in which Gold confirms that he will be staying on to compose the music for the 2010 series of Doctor Who.

In the interview, Gold discusses composing and recording the scores for "The End of Time" and the other 2009 specials. He also mentions that he has already begun work on a new version of the Doctor Who theme for 2010, and that the forthcoming series will feature scripts by Mark Gatiss and Gareth Roberts.

http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.com/2010/01/murray-gold-returns.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ew, yes.

Alba, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh ffs I was sure that the terrible score for the last ep was a swan song.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was really hoping he'd go.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

:( was also so so hopeful he wld be gone

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Monday, 4 January 2010 00:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Monday, 4 January 2010 00:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was vainly hoping for a score of eerie ambient electronic noises.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Yeah, it's the intrusiveness which bugs me, which is surely a failing of some sound editor, rather than Gold himself. THough I, too, would love a return to Radiophonic Workshop ambient weirdo stuff.

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I suppose my problem is more with the mixing than the score itself, but my feelings towards Mr Gold were not greatly improved by that Doctor Who Prom they did (christ knows why I was watching this - that time of day where sitting mindlessly in front of someone else's telly choices is about all I can manage I suppose) mentioning Murray Gold's Amazing Wonderful Doctor Who Theme Tune approx 6000 times, Ron Grainer maybe once, Delia Derbyshire 0 times

brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 4 January 2010 09:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i reckon if they're going to rip off windowlicker so badly, they might as well hand over the score-writing duties to mr richard d james - not like he's doing anything much else at the moment except hanging round the synth shed smoking weed

that would be a welcome return to weird radiophonic noises

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 4 January 2010 11:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really don't know why Moffat would get rid of everything else from the RTD era, but decide that Murray Gold is a keeper.

think his normal footwear will be black boots

The boots are Prada.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 4 January 2010 14:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

All a bit wibbly-wobbly torchy-worchy.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Looks like an old-school Doctor there, right enough

stet, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

A dalek turned up in "better off ted" this week.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Awesome choice of picture there.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, January 7, 2010 10:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

karen, i was on the fence about your whole steez, but this is the second lame anti-ginger comment in two days, so: get fucked, you highly annoying challops merchant/fake woman.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hearsay and rumours that this series will contain Winston Churchill (could be awful) and Vincent Van Gogh (could be amazing).

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's a decent line-up of writers, especially given that both the Unicorn & The Wasp and School Reunion are underrated episodes.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Set pic from the Vincent Van Gogh episode - http://imgur.com/MpnPR.jpg

There's other ones with what's supposedly the new 'bad wolf' running theme shown, too.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Simon Nye?? o_O

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Chibnall ;_;

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

dear mr. mayne: i AM ginger

this might be why i notice these kinds of things?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

I consider the run between (exclusively) "Victory of the Daleks" and "Night Terrors" to be the most consistent run of Who.

Here's my episode spreadsheet if anyone cares. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hYW5F7RabPGWT42AcFijJqk__B3YDXHN-F_0AluJ4_k/edit?usp=sharing

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 15 May 2017 00:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Other things I liked about this ep:

Doctor joining the stars together to make a skull.

The blue alien character with dreamy, quiet demanour, eyes and voice - sure there were some cheap jokes for mums and dads (some of my best friends are blueish hur hur) but I liked how he wasn't really explained, just allowed to be alien.

The dead man in the suit, the first one they find, just there in the middle of the scene.

Think I already mentioned the music but will mention it again, a distress call in the feint hope someone might read this who knows how to get rid of Murray Gold. No syrupy sweet soundtrack this time, just threatening stabs and pulses.

Capitalism is evil and will fuck you up, rip the air our of your lungs. No efforts made to jolly that up at all or humanise it in any way. Like if they'd had a comedy Alan Sugar space boss thundering around telling people to stop breathing (hur hur) which is the sort of thing the new series tends to do. I'll forgive Nardole's bit of bullshit about the space call-center etc.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 15 May 2017 01:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Cold Blood is a huge dud

I'm sure I've said upthread or in one of Ned's side-threads that Lodger through Moon is the strongest run ever for mine

zomg at repping Akhaten but scratching Hide

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Monday, 15 May 2017 01:01 (one week ago) Permalink

I think this episode was okay, but again it seemed to be treading very familiar waters. Like, we have an isolated station, no way of getting out, and something starts killing the crew and turning them into villains, i.e. a riff on "The Thing" and "Alien". We've seen this kinda plot twice in the last season alone: "Sleep No More" and the double episode where everyone started turning into ghosts. And of course it's been done several times in previous seasons too: "Water of Mars", the one with Satan in space, etc.

I think the only time riffing on The Thing has produced a truly great and memorable episode was "42", because they found a unique way of conveying the horror. In here, as soon as they went to the space station and found the zombie in the space suit, I was like, "Oh no, it's this plot again!". Though I guess in this one the capitalism theme gave it a somewhat unique edge, and a few of the scenes were a bit more innovative then usually (especially the one where Bill was dying and lost here consciousness), but mostly it was in the same "decent, but nothing new" category as the previous two episodes.

Tuomas, Monday, 15 May 2017 06:34 (one week ago) Permalink

There's a plot hole in this episode, which is: was the company trying to make money off oxygen, or conserve oxygen? Because they can't sell it if they just kill the breathers. And if they were conserving it, venting off the unauthorized air goes against that.

The whole air scheme is a bit ludicrous and doesn't seem like the most cost-efficient way to run the station, but this one isn't necessarily a plot hole... If the company is selling the air to the workers by pound, having an alternative & free source of air on the station would mean less business for them, so that's why they get rid of it.

Tuomas, Monday, 15 May 2017 10:07 (one week ago) Permalink

has there been any daily mail shenanigans about the evil beeb shoving anti-capitalist propaganda down the throats of the innocent doctor who audience yet? as cardamon says, it was a pretty naked bit of polemic - not that i'm complaining, mind

The Patricia Routledge Meatspin Gif Has Made You Gay (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 May 2017 10:16 (one week ago) Permalink

xp. So they were guarding their own air supply but not necessarily selling it. Doesn't make all that much sense, but it doesn't bother me.

Robot workers killing humans is a good logical endpoint for capitalism I think.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:56 (one week ago) Permalink

sic: Akhaten is a crazy failure, a good-bad episode. Hide is just a bore. I don't remember much of Cold Blood today but I'll say that I watched it before I knew that the Silurians were from the old serials.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 15 May 2017 16:04 (one week ago) Permalink

I'd agree that "Lodger" through "A Good Man..." is Moffat's best, super-confident, ideas-heavy stretch of episodes. Then Smith's run kind of collapses until the anniversary specials, unfortunately.

Girl Who Died through Husbands Of River Song is nine eps if you accept Sleep No More as a noble failure rather than a duffer

Kinda thought this season was insufferable apart from the last two and Husbands.

Other strong stretches: "42" through "Utopia" and most of the Ecclestone season if you forgive the farting aliens.

Season 2 and 7b remain the nadirs, I think.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 15 May 2017 16:13 (one week ago) Permalink

finally watching the recent Christmas episode. it's pretty good! i LOL'd when that lady was eavesdropping and it panned over to reveal the Doctor chopping on a salad

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:14 (one week ago) Permalink

ah, not salad, it's a sushi platter

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:15 (one week ago) Permalink

. Like, we have an isolated station, no way of getting out, and something starts killing the crew and turning them into villains, i.e. a riff on "The Thing" and "Alien".

The Carpenter Thing was 1982. Here are some Doctor Who stories made and aired before 1982:

The Tenth Planet
Power Of The Daleks
The Underwater Menace
The Moonbase
The Macra Terror
The Tomb Of The Cybermen
The Abominable Snowmen
The Ice Warriors
The Web Of Fear
Fury From The Deep
The Wheel In Space
The Seeds Of Death
Inferno
Colony In Space
The Ark In Space
The Seeds Of Doom
The Robots Of Death
Horror Of Fang Rock
The Invasion of Time
Earthshock

Alien (1979) is basically a straight-out remake of The Ark In Space (1974)

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Well, the Hawks Thing is 1951, and the John Campbell short story it's based on is 1938; the scenario in both cases is essentially the same as in the Carpenter version. And Alien is basically a straight-out remake of It The Terror From Beyond Space (1958).

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 09:13 (one week ago) Permalink

Actually pretty mind-blowing that Ark in Space came out 5 years before Alien

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:52 (one week ago) Permalink

I think this episode was okay, but again it seemed to be treading very familiar waters. Like, we have an isolated station, no way of getting out, and something starts killing the crew and turning them into villains (...) We've seen this kinda plot twice in the last season alone: "Sleep No More" and the double episode where everyone started turning into ghosts. And of course it's been done several times in previous seasons too: "Water of Mars", the one with Satan in space, etc.

See for me I was glad to see this sort of thing coming back. I much prefer the type of thing that kills the crew and turns them into villains to the type of thing that looks evil at first as it devours people through plot holes, but then it's that she's in terrible pain, and then she gets released through a plot hole.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 13:01 (one week ago) Permalink

Two crackers in a row.

And the music! Some actual nasty orchestral stabs and pulses.

It may be heresy, but Murray Gold is actually fairly good at scoring scary/dramatic stuff. Just don't let him near any weepy bits or, god fucking forbid, comedy.

As an aside, I spent a day last week at the location at which portions of Smile were shot, the City of Arts and Sciences in Valenicia. It definitely feels like being on another planet. Here is a photo I took:

chap, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 17:20 (one week ago) Permalink

So these super advanced aliens never thought of multithreading?

Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Sunday, 21 May 2017 05:03 (one week ago) Permalink

lol

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 May 2017 05:09 (one week ago) Permalink

So I'm guessing Moffat's familiar with the Eliezer Yudkowsky cult. Or maybe he just reads the same pop science books. AI basilisk scenarios work better in fiction than as philosophy.

nitpick corner
Why did they get to kill the AI doctor so many times? He figured out the solution here without knowing about that. wouldn't he have figured it out the first time too? heaven sent avoided this problem.

The simulation was supposed to be of the entire history of Earth but no one noticed the numbers bit until now? the writers should have just had the sim be to the portal locations around the time of the invasion.

The solution is to send an email out to the real world. Yeah, that wouldn't work.

I'm okay with the simulation having a backdoor in the Veritas book. It's a metaphor for knowledge.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 21 May 2017 07:21 (one week ago) Permalink

My guess is that these bad guys might turn out to be the THANKS FOR THE SPOILER EVERYWHERE BBC finale bad guys.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Sunday, 21 May 2017 10:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Why did they get to kill the AI doctor so many times? He figured out the solution here without knowing about that. wouldn't he have figured it out the first time too? heaven sent avoided this problem.

I don't get this question? As far as I could tell, the simulation had run only once, not a billion times like in Heaven Sent? It wasn't implied the Simulation Doctor had lived through more than one iteration of these events. Unless you're suggesting the prologue and epilogue were just another layer of the simulation, not reality/

Tuomas, Sunday, 21 May 2017 11:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I thought this was the first really good episode of this season. Obviously the main concept isn't particularly new in sci-fi, but it was executed in an imaginative way with cool story elements, like the Vatican's forbidden library or the whole "book that can kill you" mystery. IMO the mystery worked really well, I didn't even suspect an Invisibles/Matrix solution until they started reciting those random numbers in unison. Which I thought was really neat scene, much better than if they'd had the Doctor figure out the thing through some expository monologue.

Tuomas, Sunday, 21 May 2017 11:45 (one week ago) Permalink

tuomas: there's a line from the corpse-alien to the doctor: "we have killed you many times." shouldn't have been stuck in there imo.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 21 May 2017 15:16 (one week ago) Permalink

The solution is to send an email out to the real world. Yeah, that wouldn't work.

You can send an email from a virtual machine and it would reach someone beyond the confines of that VM.

Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Sunday, 21 May 2017 16:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Another good one. Reminded me of Listen - slightly fumbled ending but for the most part genuinely creepy and unpredictable - and also "Big Bang" for its (deliberate?) Grant Morrison vibe.

Also - I note Bill'a "died" twice now. I hope they're not Rorying her.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 21 May 2017 22:20 (one week ago) Permalink

asBill'a

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Monday, 22 May 2017 00:58 (six days ago) Permalink

so this ruled

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:46 (six days ago) Permalink

Best of the season so far, and super creepy

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:46 (six days ago) Permalink

So creepy. And weird. Also was that guy on the execution planet tallying up the Doctor's body count? Yeesh

El Tomboto, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:22 (six days ago) Permalink

I love the awkwardness of the verb "Rorying" btw

El Tomboto, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:23 (six days ago) Permalink

was that guy on the execution planet tallying up the Doctor's body count?

they seem to be playing this up more than usual this season, i wonder if it'll tie into capaldi's regeneration somehow

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:27 (six days ago) Permalink

when Nardole accidentally deleted himself, I was like "omg"

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:08 (six days ago) Permalink

Yeah, very effective moment. And who would've thought that any reaction to Nardole deleting himself would be anything but unambiguous joy?

Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:10 (six days ago) Permalink

Ha, yeah, they did exactly enough character work with him through the first two thirds of the episode. It's like they actually thought about the fact that his character has been a somewhat annoying cipher this whole time and then took a little time to beef him up ("are you a secret badass?" etc) so that when he gets de-rezzed it actually matters, and not just because of what it implies for Bill. And the Doctor, but it took a long time to come to grips with the Doctor being Grand Theft Aught-Who.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 02:12 (five days ago) Permalink

I didn't spend a lot of time coming up with that so please, rubbish at will

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 02:12 (five days ago) Permalink

I've never hated Nardole, though I agree it's nice they decided to flesh him out more. When they announced Matt Lucas is gonna be in the show, I was prepared to hate him because how awful "Little Britain" was, but it turned out he's perfectly fine as a comic actor when he isn't writing his own material.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 07:01 (five days ago) Permalink

Let's not forget his first TV role was his finest.

chap, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 08:40 (five days ago) Permalink

I thought this was great. Really well executed. A detail I liked: it leaves open that the Pope and friends have never actually been in the Tardis hilariously in real life, only in the simulation.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:30 (five days ago) Permalink

Enjoyed that, glad to see there are 12 episodes in this series.
Like the way they've interlinked all the episodes so far. It's almost a return to original era cliffhangerhood.
JUst wish we did have several more seasons of Capaldi. Liking him with Bill. Like him anyway but just wish there hadn't been seasons wasted with Clara.

Stevolende, Saturday, 27 May 2017 21:42 (yesterday) Permalink

Liked this one too. Something very 'classic series' about the world's armed forces being represented by a few people in costumes and a CGI plane and submarine.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 28 May 2017 15:48 (two hours ago) Permalink

I'm a few weeks behind but they really missed an opportunity for someone to go "it's bigger on the inside" during the house-hunting scene.

Matt DC, Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:09 (two hours ago) Permalink


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