"MONSTER" is still kicking my ass
i had it on at a party the other night, and it sounded so fresh, cutting and inspired.
― Do you love me now? (surm), Thursday, 24 December 2009 04:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
Wasn't recruited by Illuminati, but the show was tremendously great
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 December 2009 11:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
"speechless" is beautiful, fuck
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 December 2009 03:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
teeth has been kinda in my head
― Do you love me now? (surm), Friday, 25 December 2009 04:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^^my process of appreciation of the fame monster. "speechless is a pretty decent george harrison guitar rip, isn't it --> wow, speechless is really something --> speechless is stuck in my head. always."
― Alex in Montreal, Friday, 25 December 2009 05:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
The exegesis blog post is amazing. Makes you wonder if Matthew Barney + Bjork = Gaga, but the dates don't quite work.
― Soukesian, Friday, 25 December 2009 12:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
"If you're on an island, stranded, and all you have is sticks and leaves and pineapples, you're gonna make a boat out of sticks and leaves and pineapples," she said. "I view glamour and celebrity life and these plastic assumptions as the pineapples. And I spend my career harvesting pineapples, and making pies and outfits and lipsticks that will free my fans from their stranded islands."
This is really the heart of the appeal of Gaga for me, aside from the songs being great - - I recognize this thing she's doing, taking all the hugeness of celebrity glamour/pantomime as a toybox that's open to everybody, including big-nosed weirdos who presumably spent their teenage years listening to "Radio Ga Ga" and/or "Lady Stardust" as discussed upthread. This is why the "my fans are my favorite artist" thing works for me - it would undermine the whole fucking point of the show if it weren't a mirror pointed back at the fans encouraging them to fashion their own celebrity out of whole cloth and/or pineapples.
Whether that's a viable dream or not, it makes sense to me. An acquaintance of mine has been doing these choreographed zombie/glitter dress-up shows for ages on a $20 budget with a bunch of keyboards and bearded weirdos. I'm sure you all have come into contact with similar things. Now there might be pitfalls there and the strength of the music as music is going to vary from performer to performer, but the idea that freaks and oddballs who never fit in can by force of will re-create the unobtainable fantasy world they've been fed since birth is groovy. IMO. Of course all this might be just me retreading Camp 101, I dunno, but I think it's neat.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 December 2009 14:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
I guess what I'm sort of getting at is that somehow Gaga represents a DIY spirit, applied to pop music, even though nothing about her entire aesthetic is DIY in the slightest - not the music, certainly not the production values (although there is some idea about all the costumes etc. coming out of a stable of her close friends or something)... more that the attitude/posture/relationship to pop is that of an outsider making the scene they want out of what's available to them. If that makes any sense.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 December 2009 14:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
(final addendum, all of the above is written from the perspective of a big-nosed weirdo who spent his teenage years listening to Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Joel and would very much like to be famous and surrounded by sexy people in glittered rubber costumes. so i'm a bit biased.)
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 December 2009 14:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah "speechless" is as much a billy joel bite as anything, at least melodically
― k3vin k., Monday, 28 December 2009 23:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Anyone else notice "Bad Romance" nods to/cops from ELO's "Don't Bring Me Down?"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 December 2009 23:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
well now i do
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 28 December 2009 23:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have a half-baked theory going on that gaga's early bog-standard generic stuff was a trojan horse for what she really wanted to foist on the world, and "speechless" and "teeth" bear this out rather
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 00:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
Of course, that's sort of how Eminem started out, too, and for all the subsequent highs, we all know how that turned out.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 00:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
Eminem started out with bog-standard stuff?
― autogoon collective (The Reverend), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 13:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 14:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
well ok, but that wasn't exactly his public first impression. that's pretty much equivalent to gaga's bar band gigs upthread
― autogoon collective (The Reverend), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah "Bad Romance" has always reminded me of "Don't Bring Me Down"
― De Suggestivistban (some dude), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
Apparently this is Megan Phelps' (of Westboro Baptist Church infamy) version of "Poker Face":
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 8 January 2010 02:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
I thought those were the lyrics on screen for a moment
― musically, Friday, 8 January 2010 05:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
i heard Monster coming out of someone's earbuds on a train today. it was exciting. i tried to give him the "oh, i know" look but i'm not sure if he caught on
― Do you love me now? (surm), Friday, 8 January 2010 06:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
What's the "Oh, I know" look, surm?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 8 January 2010 11:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://raraahahahromaromamagagaoohlala.com/
― t(o_o)t (ENBB), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
xp lol i'm not really sure, which is why i don't think he got it either
― Do you love me now? (surm), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 15:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
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― Kylie is a vacant Phifer (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
the Monster line "Wanna talk to her, she’s hot as hell" is my favorite pop lyric of the moment! yay
― you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Cunga, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
A+
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 21 January 2010 02:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246267/Schoolgirl-10-accidently-hanged-dressing-gown-cord-danced-Lady-GaGa.html#ixzz0dmdoO35R
― ♖♕♖ (am0n), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
There is absolutely no reason Lady GaGa's name should have been used in that headline. Pathetic. Definitely a horrifying tragedy, but no reason to publicize it like that.
Is this why you Britishers hate the Daily Mail?
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
tip, iceberg
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
That Oprah performance where she's hitting the car windshield w/ a mace and trying so desperately to make it dramatic confirms that she's still biting off more than she can chew with the crazy setpieces (see also: awkwardly sitting at the piano in crazy outfit on SNL, looking down to make sure her fake blood was running on the VMAs). So much of what she does could be awesome if it came off effortless and not so amateurish.
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
do u like any of her other newer songs besides BR?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think I've only heard a couple once or twice, and they didn't stick, but again haven't really givent hem a chance to. What are the best ones?
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm big on "speechless", which is sort of a weird billy joel/queen ballad, and "alejandro" is nice too
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
monster. alejandro is eh
― you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh and TEETH
― ♖♕♖ (am0n), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
Apparently, Daily Mail hate Lady Gaga.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
one of our local drag performers made a vid to Bad Romance. it's good, y'see:
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― Ivan, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's my first time trying to embed anything and I fucked up! nooooooooooooo here's the normal link
― Ivan, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh wtf
"alejandro" is massive imo
lol @ amon gif
― waka shame (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
welcome to ILX, Ivan
― struck through in my prime (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
i find "speechless" genuinely moving and "telephone" is such a banger. SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE I LIVE IN GRAND CENTRAL STATION! the crookers remix is great too
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
yes that is good
― waka shame (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
I like "So Happy I Could Die" - very nice, striking chord change at the end of the chorus. "Alejandro" is AWFUL though.
― Freedom, Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
I was also really annoyed by this live performance of "Speechless", where at one point she paused and adopted an anguished facial expression, presumably as a heavy-handed means of achieving pathos.
― Freedom, Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:07 (3 years ago) Permalink