Oh god Scritti or PE can't decide
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh and the only non-Birthday Party Nick Cave album I can wholeheartedly get behind.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
8. All About Eve - All About Eve = loling my knackers off
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Never understood how all about ever made it, either at the time or in retrospect. I knew people who absolutely loved them! There was NOTHING THERE!
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Melody Maker = Goth fanzine, is why
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Still, they were good on Top of the Pops that one time
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I ought to vote Butthole Surfers really if people are gonna be all gothtarded about this
Also if Bug was a single it might be in with a shout
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe it's just cacky nostalgia but 1988 indie makes 2008 indie look like dogshite
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
(xpost)I suppose?! I never understood the goth thing with them, I mean they weren't actually tr00 gothick, really, were they? If I'd been a goth, I'd have hated them for selling out and not using enough flanger on the guitars or something.
I don't think it it cacky nostalgia. indie '08 does seem to stay within v v narrow boundaries.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess AAE were the proto-Evanescence or something really. Yeah they wasn't Gothick, but they were definitely Celine Dion for your goth girlfriend.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously there's like at least 15 albums here that are deathless.
I think it's cool that All About Eve covered a Mellow Candle song FUCKING HIPPIES!
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I never understood the goth thing with them
I think that singing on that Mission record semented the goth affiliation.
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Thin White Rope are another of the many bands on this list that deserve to win way more than the inevitably My Bloody Valentine bollocksy landslide.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Oops, sement? x-post
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link
They covered a Trees song as well, didn't they? "Garden of Jayne Trelawney", I think. I kind of want to like them, just to be contrary, but the couple of tracks I just played on Youtube, the only memorable thing is the duff lyrics. Julianne Regan's britpop band (yes, I KNOW) "Mice" had a decent single that I still play, but the album was weak.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link
She would've had a decent voice to do folk-rock, but the rest of AAE were MOR hacks of the most cackhanded kind.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Obviously I'm hoping the mode lurker vote is for the ILM-acclaimed critically-lauded utterly-unprecedented "most daring album ever", but maybe that's too much to ask for.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link
(xpost) yeah, all these tracks sound like folksy test card music with someone doing vocal warm-up exercises over them! NO TUNES. NO GROOVE EITHER.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, Trees! See, I want to like them in hindsight too, but it's like trying to get stiff with a porn mag you've found in a pond.
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link
They remind me of, ergh, what's that crappy sub-fleetwood mac neoprog band that classic rock used to prop all the time...er...
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:41 (fifteen years ago) link
mostly autumn! Terrible.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Also the twatting Wonder Stuff placed above Nation of Millions, 1988 indie already proudly marching towards the apartheid years.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Another thing that used to amaze me! All the props that band got! They were total shit! "Miles Hunt, the great songwriter of our time" How come I can't remember a single one of their tunes then? And I can remember a couple of Skinny Puppy's "tunes" (cough) quite well?
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought I just remembered a Wonder Stuff tune but it was a Kingmaker one.
Miles Hunt was yr OG racist indie cockwad, eh?
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't recall the racist bit, what I mainly remember was the weird passive-aggressive thing he had about running their single videos down and suchlike. The album title was laughable - "8-legged 'groove' machine" - "Groove" lololololoool they were surely the unfunkiest, most rythmically plodding band EVER
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Well I was stretching racist to include seething condemnation of any music remotely connected with black influences ever so yes.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i.e. 'Who Wants To Be The Disco King?'?
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the dude who also "ironically" called for the execution of Rick Astley for making records that people actually liked.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Aside from the Mission thing, a lot of the AAE goth tag came from the first single on 4AD when Julianne still worked for ZigZag, and was a total Xymox pastiche.
― aldo, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, dressing up like Goths.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't they have some dood that looked like Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen on guitar?
If I hadn't smothered my inner 7-year old with a pillow, I'd have married up the Butthole Surfers' tracks with the top ten.
Cocteau Twins would get this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Butthole_Hairway_6.jpg
Pixies would get this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Butthole_Hairway_1.jpg
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Bollocks, didn't work, but Gibby Haines was sooo OTM.
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Butthole_Hairway_1.jpg
Hooray!
AAE were never signed to 4AD - isn't the story that Ivo rejected Regan's demo but put her in touch with Manuella of Xmal? I owned that first album. I think I bought it the same day as Blue Bell Knoll. Oh dear.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link
(A couple of years ago I was on a train behind a couple of 40-something geezers - they were raving about some recent AAE acoustic show and how it was a crying shame they didn't have a recording contract anymore when "the charts is full of all this monkey music"). :/
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe they meant the arctic monkeys, eh. (ok maybe i'm being over-charitable here)
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost woah
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link
The Waterboys always reminded me of a deer taking a dump, yes
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link
it's gotta be miss america. shit, that's twenty years ago. i remember the day i bought that album like yesterday.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmm, I was convinced D For Desire came out on 4AD. Maybe the Vaughan Oliver sleeve fooled me.
― aldo, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
GUESS WHAT I VOTED FOR.
Isn't Anything and Surfer Rosa and ITANOMTHUB bringing up the rear.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^voice of reason
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I prefer the other AR Kane album.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Would I like AR Kane?
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I only managed to listen to Daydream Nation once, and didn't like it much, which is odd, as I like the one with 100% on and love the last three.
Um, quite possibly, yes.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/on_second_thought/ar-kane-i.htm
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
groovy
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link