Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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I thought ILM was pop!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 24 July 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

So, Helena...whats your rebuttal to my rebuttal?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 24 July 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

I thought ILM was pop!
Nope. Haven't ya heard? We're all a bunch of autosodomizing, t'bacca-chewin' redrecks, now.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 24 July 2003 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, Helena, where ARE your rebuttals? Put 'em on the glass, as they say around here.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 24 July 2003 15:01 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not actually back. I'm sitting in an overly air-conditioned public library in Quogue on Long Island. The wife and I came out here for a week of sun, but it's been relentlessly rainy, alas.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 24 July 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

fuck every single person in here that talks shit about dave. every dmb lover can tell you how talented and incredible dmb is. but for all you idiots that have NOOOOOOOOOOOo idea and talk bad need to sit down with a dave album and just listen. listen to the words, listen to the music, listen to everything. and until you actually listen go fuck yourselves. dave rocks

― drew s, Friday, 25 July 2003 13:09 (twenty years ago) link

Yay!

― J (Jay), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

...and we are all gay.

yes, yes, we KNOW this.

also, looks like this thread will never die. Looks like it's time to start referencing other pop culture, since we've had our run of _Dune_.

What icon of Western Civilization shall we make jokes about today?

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

Drew. WE *HAVE* LISTENED. We Have NO CHOICE. He's on the RADIO...ALL...THE...TIME...!
We couldn't AVOID listening to him if we tried!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

So - we're still waiting on a DMB fuckwit fan to give us an example of a good song. Just one fucking song!? Or is it his haircut that you love?

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

So where's you rational rebuttal to that, eh, Drew?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

Jerry Springer is running for the U.S. Senate.

― J (Jay), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

ODB will kick his ass.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

i'm disappointed by the DMB crew's constant refusal to put them rebuttals on the glass.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

They are Guerilla Trolls. They jump in, call us all idiots. Demand we listen to the nitwits dull and irritating music (like we could frigging avoid it), and then don't bother posting again.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, except for Helena. (And she still hasn't rebutted by rebuttal.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

Rebutting would only be a waste of time. It's imposible to prove any point here since everyone has already formed a bad opinion of the band and are obviously not willing to alter that opinion.

Song that captures the overall DMBness of DMB = So much to say.

― Allison (Allison), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

Allison has proved her worth repeatedly, so in deference to her opinion I will listen to "So Much to Say" and try to glean some wisdom therefrom. If the meaning of life appears I'll let y'all know!

I was hoping Helena would show back up too. :-(

― J (Jay), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

wait, that wasn't a radio single, was it?

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

I don't believe so...might have been.

― Allison (Allison), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

To rebut:
"Rebutting would only be a waste of time. It's imposible to prove any point here since every DMB fan has already formed a positive assessment of the band and are obviously not willing to alter that opinion."
And as Mark Twain once aptly opined: "Any long standing debate -- or thread over 1200 posts long -- means both sides are wrong."

Since neither side will give ground, maybe would should
1) both admit defeat and turn this thread back into a random assortment of movie quotes. or
2) nope. there is no choice #2. Goto 1

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.osric.com/~jeremy/bizarro.jpg

http://www.osric.com/~jeremy/glitch.jpg
I still say that this thread is a glitch in the matrix, and it's a lot like participating in the Special Olympics.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

Now..was that really necessary?

― Allison (Allison), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

I could only afford the 30 second clips on the Amazon website .. but .. Dave's music *is* toe-tapable .. but I get this Phil Collins vibe off of it - maybe a little funkier, but still, there it is. I think what really bugs me are the smooth-jazz basslines. ANyway, I think I liked Too Much more than the other songs - although I still can't get away from the association with drinking a $5.00 Budweiser at a free outdoor festival kinda sound.

But thanks for the recommendation, Allison.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

The way I see it, Allison is caught between our snarkiness and the fact that practically none of the other fans who have posted here have any sense of perspective.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

Alright - after further anesthetizing my sensibilities, I can accept the 30-second clip of "Don't Drink the Water" as passable. (That's probably the song that true DMB fans hate, isn't it....)

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

snarkiness keeps me entertained at work, at least.

and that makes it all worthwhile.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

Actually it's one of my favorites. It's only 30 seconds though, you didn't get to hear the part where he freaks out and goes into a trance-like state.

― Allison (Allison), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

Dave Matthews is on the local alt-rock morning show right now, previewing songs from his new "solo album." He's kind of funny, in a pleased-with-himself way. The songs are atmospheric but dull. I think I like them better than the songs (I've heard) with the "B."

― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

i can't stand that don't drink the water song. it was funny at first but now it's just damned silly.

― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

Funny? I guess I didn't listen very carefully. (Actually, i didn't listen to the words at all.) I just thought that musically it was more interesting than what else I've heard.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

Christ, I remember looking in on this thread in its infancy, the very day it was birthed.
And look, it's gotten so big.
I just spent two hours reading this thread, and I have to admit, it was fan-freakin'-tastic.
It had everything — drama, conflict, comedy, tragedy, mysterious strangers, and if I read between the lines correctly, maybe even a little romance.
Thank you to all the posters for such an entertaining read — from the ILM regulars, who didn't disappoint, to the DMB legions who rushed to their idol's defence.
This thread is pure gold.
Somebody should allow some magazine to serialize this. Or ILM could sell the movie rights.
Oh, and Dave Matthews rox Uruguay.

― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Friday, 25 July 2003 22:35 (twenty years ago) link

Would Careless Talk Costs Lives be improved if they ran a cover story on Dave Matthews Band? Everett True should interview Dave Matthews.
ET could be responsible for inflic....launching the genius of DMB in the UK. (Getting him away from us all in the states for a while)

― Allannah, Friday, 25 July 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

And Q magazine can run one of those "Big...in Turkmenistan!" micro-stories.
But anyhow... back to what Bruce Urquhart brought up:
Christ, I remember looking in on this thread in its infancy, the very day it was birthed.
And look, it's gotten so big
Sigh. Yeah. 15% of the blame falls on my head. I'm sorry, everybody.
(PS: the Secret of Life is not -- repeat, not -- hidden anywhere in this thread.)

drama, conflict, comedy, tragedy, mysterious strangers, and if I read between the lines correctly, maybe even a little romance.
Um...romance?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

I love you all.

― Dave Matthews, Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:45 (twenty years ago) link

See. Romance.
Plus, they would probably deny it, but I could feel the heat between Alex in NYC and Allison.
Raw, animal heat. Or antipathy. It's a fine line.

― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

The words "Groovy Hate Fuck" come to mind, but I won't voice that thought out loud because it would be low, lewd, sad, crass and wrong.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

come on out and dance!
come on out and dance!
come on out and make romance!

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

dude, i'd give $5 for a Groovy Hate Fuck right about now. Maybe i should go out wandering about the town tonight instead of wasting the evening playing video games again.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

Ah...here's the romance.
Does anyone on ILM wanna give Kingfish a Groovy Hate Fuck?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I Hate You All.

― Jaz Coleman, Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

Dave Up For The 2003 Shortlist Prize !!!
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1942690

― Dave Matthews Band Fan, Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

erm i meant to type hes one of the list makers (he chooses his favorite albums that have sold less than 500,000)

― Dave Matthews Band Fan, Saturday, 26 July 2003 02:01 (twenty years ago) link

This year marks the third annual competition, which, like the U.K.'s Panasonic Mercury Prize, honors projects for their creative and adventurous appeal rather than their commercial success.

ADVENTUROUS?!

oh well. at least ?uestlove is in there.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 26 July 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

Thursday, August 7
THE DAVE MATTHEWS COVER BAND
Phenomenal Musicianship
Faithfully Recreating the
DMB Sound
Doors 8 pm
Show 9:30 pm
Tickets: $10
On Sale Now

WHOA!!!!! I want to go I think.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 26 July 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

Re: the DMB Cover Band Xtreme-o-ganza!
"When you know that the showers are really gas chambers, you don't look forward to being 'clean' "

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 28 July 2003 00:32 (twenty years ago) link

I'll have tendonitis in my hand if this thread reaches 2000

― Dave Matthews, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

Lose my voice at 3000

― Dave Matthews, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

I'll probably spontaneously combust at 5000.

― Dave Matthews, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

But the bongo solo doesn't stop until 10,000.

― Carter Beauford, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:06 (twenty years ago) link

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