How comes nobody ever mentions the MC5 round here?

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actually, I would be interested in hearing a verion of 'black to comm' that cameron mentioned (hi cameron!). didn't spaceman 3 do a cover of that ('revolution')? xxp => I'll have to check the pink fairies out

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

even i would take the stooges worst album (raw power) over 'kick out the jams.'

i saw that pink faeries record recently and it looked pretty cool. what's it like?

Amon (eman), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

**It's not that I can't understand how someone wouldn't like the MC5 but I do think it's weird if you like the Pink Fairies and the Stooges but not the MC5.**

each to his own, but...liking the Pink Fairies but not liking MC5 = liking Badfinger but not liking the Beatles.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i like the pink fairies. and deviants. and twink. and hawkwind. and...look, i like most of it. i might even be a bigger groundhogs fan than i am an MC5 fan. but MC5 really were a bloozy/soul/R&B/Detroit hard rock band, not a psych band. even though they could play for days and get really noisy and stuff. and they could be sloppy as hell too, but those guitars!!! Hell, I own 5 Brownsville Station albums, so maybe i'm not the most clear-headed when it comes to this kinda thing.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

i mean, if i saw 3 or 4 reasonably priced amboy dukes bootlegs in a record store somewhere, i would probably buy them.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

Pash, have you heard 'High Time'? It sounds nothing like either 'Back in the USA' or 'Kick Out the Jams'.

J (Jay), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

Just listening to "Right on Fight on" -- you can definitely see someone thinking of the Fairies as a sort of English MC5, but they're just nowhere near as DYNAMITE. Lovebug otm.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Scott can prob. describe "What a Bunch of Sweeties" better than I can, I think it's great. I can remember when I first heard it, there's this bit on "Walk Don't Run", where the band breaks down, and picks up into this great raga-rock a la 1971-72 solo. It fucking burned into my mind the first time I heard it! I didn't hear it again until years later, and I remembered it just about perfectly, 20yrs later, I still get off on cranking it up & listening to it. The album has a couple of duff tracks, but the band sounds so nice, all loose-but-together and not quite tuned up perfectly, so it's got this kind of swirl about it, and the singer has this nice slightly out-of-it delivery that even the duff tracks are kind of enjoyable.

+ the Groundhogs "Hoggin' the Stage" that's a fucking lost gem of fucking ROCK if ever there was one, eh? How could 3 people make such a RICH sound?

X-post I've heard them all FFS!

I think the people who thought of the fairies as a brit mc5 most were the fairies themselves, but, y'know, PAUL RUDOLPH, man!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

I mean I'm an old fart! I remember, years ago, "received wisdom" was that the only one worth bothering with was "Kick out the Jams" and the other stuff was sort of, I dunno, second rate in s ome way, if you can beleive that!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

Recently I listened to The Frost (guitarist Dick Wagner's 60s Detroit band)for ol' times sake and if you think MC5 are dumb bloozers..."Rock & Roll Music" makes "Kick Out The Jams" sound like "Good Vibrations." The Frost did have some cool psych tunes.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 23 April 2005 16:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

I mean I'm an old fart! I remember, years ago, "received wisdom" was that the only one worth bothering with was "Kick out the Jams" and the other stuff was sort of, I dunno, second rate in s ome way, if you can beleive that!

Yeah, I believe that as it's ths standard critical line on them. The fact that everyone judges them by their worst album is why I think the band is underrated (though I'll concede that one album is overrated). Your statement kind of implies that you haven't really listened to them in years and when you did you were listening with the baggage of "received wisdom." But I guess that's fair enough. MC5 might be one of those bands where if you don't hear it when you're a teenager you'll never hear it.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 23 April 2005 16:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

On the other hand, they were so transcendentally great that you'd have to think that the possibility would certainly exist for some individuals to come around.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 23 April 2005 16:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

you can't really look to MC5 for what you get with the Stooges. the latter gave off a dark, fucked-up heroin vibe while the former was always upbeat and caffeinated. the Stooges wanted to pummel their audience into the ground while MC5 wanted to energize them into some kind of action.

Amon (eman), Sunday, 24 April 2005 01:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/08/the-john-sebast.html

schlump, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm not a huge fan of the ROCK these days but I respectively submit that any fan of 70s guitar music needs to have "I Can Only Give You Everything" and "Looking At You" in their collection. While they may not have actually ever hit that transcendental moment, for me their best tunes always have them striving for it.

factcheckr, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

i don't know. maybe because i think YES to i can only give you everything (who wrote that?, by the way? i know it's like a nuggets staple you can hear van morrison &c doing), but not necessarily yes to looking at you. but i think their most interesting stuff isn't so rock. even if it's stupid-heavy, things like come together aren't really riff-rockin' classics. and then there's the totally not-rock stuff, revolutionary blues and skunk and stuff. i don't think their best stuff's abides to the form of heavy-ass rock-songs or anything.

schlump, Monday, 1 September 2008 14:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think I Can Only Give You Everything was originally written for the Troggs by one of those songwriting teams, but every garage band and his dog did a version of it.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 1 September 2008 14:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've got "Trogglodynamite" which is where I know it from.

Mark G, Monday, 1 September 2008 14:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

lyrics are kinda cheese but that electric autoharp sounds amazing

Brio, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Brio, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

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Brio, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

I didn't know there was another rockin' electric autoharp player. I mean, aside from the guy from Cold Sun.

Gorgeous Ladies Of Curling (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also that Ted Taylor tune is fucking boss

Gorgeous Ladies Of Curling (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was kind of surprised when I first heard it to hear how close the MC5 stayed to the original - obviously they rock it up a bit, but all the good stuff in their version is right there in the Ted Taylor tune.

Brio, Thursday, 25 February 2010 15:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

The comparison between those two videos is like the perfect example why rock music sucks compared to R&B/soul. That MC5 dude can't sing at all, and the awesome groove is lost under guitar theatrics.

Tuomas, Friday, 26 February 2010 14:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

awww come on. there's room for awesome R&B grooves and bad singing/guitar theatrics rock music in the world.

Brio, Friday, 26 February 2010 15:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

One thing that flips my wig on that Ted Taylor 45 is the production is credited to Billy Sherrill, which is probably is the same guy eventually known for the country-politan sound of early 70s recordings by George Jones, Tammy Wynette and Charlie Rich.

The music biz used to be a way smaller place.

earlnash, Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

RIP Michael Davis:

Michael Davis, the bassist of influential late 1960s rock band MC5, has died of liver failure, his wife said Saturday. He was 68.

Davis died at Enloe Medical Center in Chico, Calif., on Friday afternoon after a month-long hospitalization for liver disease, said Angela Davis.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw man

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

RIP

I stood frontrow before him during the '04 reunion show here. After the show I swiped his setlist only to have this cute girl ask me to see it and run away after I handed it over.

Fortunately I was able to get back to the stage to steal Marshall Crenshaw's copy.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 February 2012 06:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is deeply saddening. A good friend of mine played with him in Destroy All Monsters, had nothing but nice things to say about him.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 19 February 2012 06:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh shit.

i was facebook 'friends' with him, he always seemed very happy and content and full of life. what a fucking huge bummer

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

;_;

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Looking over thread...

One thing that flips my wig on that Ted Taylor 45 is the production is credited to Billy Sherrill, which is probably is the same guy eventually known for the country-politan sound of early 70s recordings by George Jones, Tammy Wynette and Charlie Rich.

The music biz used to be a way smaller place.

Billy Sherrill also produced some of The Remains studio stuff. Also, I have a copy of Jerry Lee Lewis doing "Ramblin' Rose" near the end of his Sun tenure. Supposedly he recorded it first, but his version didn't hit the streets 'til '69-70.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh man, so sad to hear. <3 you always.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 19 February 2012 09:19 (2 years ago) Permalink


their earliest footage unless I'm mistaken.
Shows them off as dandyish, I always thought they were a jeans & tshirt band until I heard that they had wives and girlfriends making a lot of clothes for them.

Sorry to hear about Mike Davis, hope he didn't suffer too much at the end. He was in hospital for a month. So have to assume he must have been.

Do wish somebody would release a compi of whatever complete footage with sound there is. Would love to see a True Testimonial released, it's a pretty good film.
So wonder if this death will trigger any new releases. A remastered set of lps would be good too. & will assume that Easy action will rerelease Purity, Accuracy the box set of rehearsal & live material.

Stevolende, Sunday, 19 February 2012 11:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aww RIP Mike Davis.

Been listening to High Time like crazy lately, kind of an amazing record and I wish it hadn't taken me forever to get that.

Will the waveform be unbroken? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

My brother texted me this news this morning. RIP Mike D. MC2 now?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just reading various stuff about him on the internet this evening and it sounds like he was a genuinely good dude all round.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

woooah, some people here seem to totally miss the point of the mc5. man, this is some fucking batshit freak the fuck out wild music. the energy and vibe they put out is phenomenal and they definitely set a high note for that kinda style. if you don't feel it, that's cool, but I'll never get enough of it.

Spectrum, Thursday, 13 December 2012 00:59 (1 year ago) Permalink


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