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― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

Dosent anyone know the name of the riddim that i asked about in the thread i left on the 21st of october?

― Bigger n Better Boss, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Atlantik's 'Lollipop' is pretty cool

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

OMG the Thursday 23/10 Robbo Ranx (but actually Seani B) set on 1xtra is fucking amazing - these are the first tracks and they're all great:

Voicemail – Salsa
Shaggy – Your Eyes
Elephant Man – We No Pet Dem
T.O.K –Won’t Stop
Wayne Marshall – Life Lessons
Cecile – Give It To Me
Ward 21 – Sickhead (Big Yard)
Tubby T – Ready She Ready (Big League)
Million Styles – Celebrate
T.O.K – One Night Stand
Sizzla – Whe Dem Wha
Bounty Killer – Sexual Healing
Vybz Cartel – Roll Deep
Vybz Cartel - Too Boasi (White)
Vybz Cartel – Good As Gal (White)
Sizzla – All Is Well (Greensleeves)

The first few are on the Salsa riddim. The Vybz Kartel tracks at the end are particularly awesome.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

lenky. dreamweaver.

― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

I was about to say: DOUBLE OMG! Lenky's "Dreamweaver" riddim is utterly insane!!! This is the *real* sequel to Diwali.

it's later on in that mix I just mentioned.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

I like how Ele's "Blessed" goes from the psycho screams+blinding beats bits into these really uplifting quasi-conscious bits. But T.O.K.'s "Fire" is even better.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:52 (twenty years ago) link

i find dreamweaver v impressive but a bit hard to love. every piece on it is super tailored

ele one's great! but i've never really liked tok. who's is the one that starts "lenky, dem like it they like it, if they want let dem fight it"? that's a great one. chico continues to rule. oh god vybz is such a twat tho, first he hates on r kelly and now CIGARETTES wtf, what's really good!

lime cay riddim is terrific, the littoral to gallop's literal

― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm listening to Dreamweaver again and I have to say I really do totally love it - like Diwali it's both insane and yet totally uplifting. I hope Wayne Wonder does another drippy ballad on it.

I tend to like the super-tailored nature of Lenky's riddims, if only because it makes buying and actually listening to his riddim albums on a regular basis conceivable. Yeah Elephant Man's is my favourite again - love that descending bass riff in the intro. But all the versions I've heard are great (agreed on Vybz' subject matter but he always *sounds* so wonderful. Looking forward to his album).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 05:31 (twenty years ago) link

The Dreamweaver is rocking my ass right now. "Blessed" from Elephant Man and "Visa" by Vybz Kartel (CIGARETTE SMOKE IS JUST NO GOOD) both work on different levels. The only riddim killing me like this is still Famine (No one hurt it harder than Lexxus on "Good Hole") or maybe Egyptian (Elephant Man will do any riddim, immediately, even though his performances sound the same. I'm cool with that).

Dancehall is great.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 05:44 (twenty years ago) link

Prima, why dislike TOK? I love their singalong choruses. "Pengeleng", "Galang Gal" and "Dis Means War" are all great.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:32 (twenty years ago) link

Just a wee question: How many folks on this thread are from the UK? I have this theory about popular riddims in the UK vs popular riddims in other places (Canada, US, Germany, Italy, JA, etc.)

― cybele (cybele), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

it's like some next kevin martin wordsound shit!

is this supposed to be a good thing or a bad one? i loathe kevin martin and all that bollocks. incidentally, the word "howler" can mean different things to different people in different parts of the country, chip, dear boy. in any case it's merely a figure of speech. one question, though, why is vybz kartel a twat, precisely? i think you might find he's actually generally considered to be pretty damned decent, but hey...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

and go cybele, i'm interested to hear this. dancehall needs more theory!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

I'm Canadian.

I'd wager that most Americans favor Diwali.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

Cybele I'm a brit and my fav three riddims this year are probably Bad Company, Sars and Hindu Storm. Do I fit the profile?

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

Mine's Sars, Voom Voom and Egyptian

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

Somebody else knows Hindu Storm! I haven't heard any hindu storm cuts since, like, April though. Is anything floating about that I can find?

Also on closer inspection Vybz is saying he doesn't want cigarettes cos he wants more weed, which is reasonable I think.

Cybele I'm from Australia, I love long walks along sandy beaches, my Australian Idol vote was for Paulini, and my four favourite dancehall riddims of '03 are Wanted, Egyptian, Mudslide and Dreamweaver. But yeah what's the theory?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

What's the riddim with Vybz Kartel's "Roll Deep", Sizzla's "Whe Dem Wha" and Bounty Killer's "Sexual Healing" etc. Cos that's some amazing shit.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

it's still annoying holier-than-man dem reasoning! yeah he's a lovable twat, sly and wry but a bit of a curmudgeon. bit wary of being like everyone else. and i reckon he'd still take a cig off you anyway, that's the main thing

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:15 (twenty years ago) link

"actually generally considered to be a pretty damn decent, but hey..."

haha keep scraping my barrel dave!

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:28 (twenty years ago) link

i love you - you are, in fact, all i come here for

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 30 October 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

it's 02, but the sledge riddim (lexxus's "face it" is all i've heard on it, thanks woebot.com) is total mitch music, yknow that 'diamond in the dirt', beautiful-ugly, signal vs. noise stuff - here it's strings shining bravely through oompa trumpet bass, gradually losing the will to continue - collapsing, detuned.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 30 October 2003 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

WOEBOT has put together a nice little package of dancehall 7's to download - apologies if this has been mentioned before - i couldnt be bothered reading the thread.

http://www.woebot.com/

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 30 October 2003 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

ching chong riddim = buggin!

― prima fassy (bob), Friday, 31 October 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

People, help a brother out.

What is the name of the riddim on "Badman Surprise" by Spragga Benz, Bounty Killer, Madd Cobra & Assassin, as well as Sean Paul's "Shake That Thing"? It's a burner.

AND

Anyone have a date on the next Elephant Man record?

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Saturday, 1 November 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

dunno bout the date, but there's an enthusiastic review for it in the voice. i desire it.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 1 November 2003 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

Rollie, that riddim is the "Surprise" riddim by Troytron. Everyone seems to rate it - I see what's nice about it but I've always found that it drags. Between "Buzz" ("Gimme the Light" etc.) and "Surprise", Troytron is setting himself up as the defender of electro minimalism in dancehall - his productions are all about minute shifts and variations on a repetitive riff/beat - but I find the shifts/variations in "Buzz" to be much more compelling, and it seems to inspire better DJ performances too.

I think Elephant Man is coming out in December. It was supposed to be out in September but was delayed for some reason. Which is a really bad idea in dancehall b/c it moves so quickly! He should definitely take the opportunity to put "Blessed" on there/.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 2 November 2003 00:32 (twenty years ago) link

I'd really like to hear more tracks using the riddim underneath Mr Vegas's "Tamale" - I can imagine it blowing up a lot like "Egyptian" did.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 2 November 2003 03:00 (twenty years ago) link

Hey has anyone heard Elephant Man's (INSANE) new Christmas single? I think it's called "Christmas A Bad Man Holiday" or something (that's how the chorus starts), and it's kinda like "Pon Di River Pon Di Bank", only to the tune of "Ding Dong Merrily On High" and with a great stomping riddim underneath.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 2 November 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

New Ele album was slated for 12/2, last I heard.

― JS Williams (js williams), Sunday, 2 November 2003 06:16 (twenty years ago) link

omg that elephant man christmas song is amazing! i think it's called badman holiday on the badman holiday riddim.

― toby (tsg20), Sunday, 2 November 2003 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

you can hear a clip here:

http://www.soundquake.com/?page=shop/browse.php&svRiddim=Badman%20Holiday&

and the whole track's on slsk...

― toby (tsg20), Sunday, 2 November 2003 16:44 (twenty years ago) link

hey Bigger n Better Boss dude, that's elephant man's 'blase'. it's one of those one-off riddims i think tho, like 'tamale' or 'too boasi'

― prima fassy (bob), Monday, 3 November 2003 08:35 (twenty years ago) link

I love the Spanish Fly riddim so much! It's so chirpy and upbeat!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:33 (twenty years ago) link

i can't quite nail what it is about 'girls gone wild' riddim i like, something quite homely and retro rather than the flash of late but t stephens - 'girls need thuggin' rewls

― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

something to do with the brown/blue label colour maybe

― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 09:43 (twenty years ago) link

tim did u ever hear sizzla's one on baba (vybz banwagonist riddim), it was ripe for yr skykicking thing!

― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 09:52 (twenty years ago) link

The only thing I've heard on that riddim is "bandwagonist" itself, and that like Spragga Benz'z "Move" is one of those fleeting tracks I loved on first sight and haven't heard since.

Some blogs noted that Sizzla's inclined to lose it and forget to come up with a tune - but I find even those tracks oddly fascinating, kinda like when you hear an 8-bar groove that totally doesn't work but you can't stop listening to it anyway.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 09:56 (twenty years ago) link

mm yeah this one's much like that, especially since the riddim itself is quite slick and frankly vybz owned it, he really defined it, so sizzla's strains just sounded that much more compelling. there is a chorus of sorts but it's more like an addled maunderer's madeleine rather than a structured refrain. puzzling to recognize where he's already been. but always mad catchy

― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 10:28 (twenty years ago) link

cybele, what is your theory??

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

"addled maunderer's madeleine"

Yes! This is exactly what I love.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 13 November 2003 05:16 (twenty years ago) link

I like how Don Corleon's Trifecta (or Triflecta?) riddim is both quite obviously "Egyptian Part 2" and a deliberate attempt to out-mentalist the Sign riddim. Each time I think dancehall producers have taken these perverse counter-intuitive eastern vibes to their logical conclusion they rise the bar AGAIN.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

Check out the Sean Paul cut "Head Fi Toe" - astonishing!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

To whomever posted about the Ching Chong riddim where did you find it?

― Truth, Thursday, 20 November 2003 05:49 (twenty years ago) link

whomever, you dun know. ching chong's a funny one actually; i heard it on chris goldfinger's radio 1 show, which is usually a nice recap wash the dishes thing ut no one else anywhere is on it. dancehall's so desultory it's fascinating to see what sticks where, i can be a right ingram about it

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 20 November 2003 09:26 (twenty years ago) link

trifector's ok, i quickly get bored of the er throbby riddims (why pf why? i dunno) but there's some inspired xtra stuff on this one! the sparse sizzla one's ACE SKILL BRILL, haha ele spends about 5 seconds listening to the riddim and sez "right, horses please", tanto metro and dev is totally daft punk vocoder drama, daville's meltingly affectionate... i havent heard the vybz but it's totally predictable no?

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 20 November 2003 09:36 (twenty years ago) link

beenie/miss thing- dude is in the rap shops after def jamaica, i think it might blow!

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 20 November 2003 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

I think the Vybz one was pretty much what you'd expect, from memory. "Head Fi Toe" stands out like "Close To Me" stands out like "Feel Alright" stands out like "Get Busy" stands out. Something about Sean's singjay style manages to take the typical flow of the groove and stand it on its head.

If you mean "throbby" the way i think I don't think i could ever get sick of it! That's why I love Wanted riddim so much.

Apparently "Dude" is gonna be the first single off the new Beenie album. If so I'm really pleased - Tropical Storm was pretty disappointing and if Sean's success is anything to go by then straight dancehall is a better option than pasty-faced urban crossover stylings. Not to mention that "Dude" has one of the best chorus's ever, even if it's not actually Beenie's (for my money Baby Cham's performance on "Vitamin S" is better).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 21 November 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

Riddim id please: Sizzla's "All Is Well". Which is another one of those "Sizzla as the Jamaican David Bryne" inspired moments.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 November 2003 08:14 (twenty years ago) link

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