funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

the official release date is 13 nov i think - i assume a digital release will accompany it at some point

didnt it say on their myspace that it was comign out 20th Oct? do you they have it on ukfunky.com?

It did (does?) say that on their MySpace, yes. But iTunes returns the same as play.com: they just have that mixed MoS comp track, which has been available for a few months now.

(In which case, thank goodness for file2hd.com. I'd be sunk without it, frankly.)

alright, there we go. just listening to the crazy cousinz show and it's supposed to be at itunes. must be uk only though because i don't see it.

i heard an LD remix of do you mind that was lovely.

oh ok yeah i can see it on itunes

that LD remix is amazing

Mak 10 on Pyro Radio 17.10.08

sounds like a less grimey vibe than his rinse sets, also will be of some relief for those who take issue with the Rinse bitrates! i actually think the whole vibe benefits from that compression and poor quality, but either way this one is much crisper

that ld remix needs to be available to buy.

cant get that mac 10 show to DL for some reason.

hmm does it not work just as a right click save as affair?

yeh much as i'd love it to be otherwise i don't have any big hopes for seeing that LD mix anytime soon! dubplate scene and all that. its interesting hearing his take on the vocal. think it illustrates quite well what i was talking about upthread about the different takes on house in dubstep as against funky

there is a very housey kode9 and ld collab 'bad' coming on hyperdub next month. one track sounds 'dubstep' housey and the other 'funky' housey

you can hear them on the player here
http://www.myspace.com/hyperdub

hyperdub seems to have some amazing stuff coming out.

As a Fuzzy Logik fan, i found this a good read

http://queenofsheba84.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/fuzzylogik/

im not a fan of everything kode 9 does but this is so amazing.

Anyone notice the Fuzzy Logick-ish funky house remix of New Horizons' 'Find The Path' on the October Marcus Nasty Rinse FM set?

nah i haven't heard that set yet but that tune sounds awesome!

this thread has died a sad death of late :/ hope it wasn't me rabbitting on about (hushed tones) dubstep too much!

what have ppl been feeling of late? doom put me onto a sick new producer, cooly g... http://www.myspace.com/coolyg i cannot wait for that EP, Dis Boy is shockingly deep. Weak is amazing too, properly disorientated

i have also been enjoying the discovery of my joy on the b side of the malice ep a very great deal!

anyone got any big new sets worth sharing? courtesy of David M... Hard House Banton b2b Dubplate Wonder on Deja Vu 4 Nov 08 - http://www.sendspace.com/file/xs5ux3

I haven't been keeping up as much in the last few months, less because I've lost interest than because I'm still constantly replaying the stuff I have from earlier in the year and have yet to get bored of it.

I'm gonna try to catch-up over the next month so that I can do a year-end wrap up.

The "My Joy" refix is amazing, yeah.

Ben, did you notice this...
http://www.bm-soho.com/store/AutoKey/101156/cooly/gdub/ornagizer/vol/1/(Cd)

"I'm gonna try to catch-up over the next month so that I can do a year-end wrap up."

Looking forward to that, Tim. I'd been wondering where you were.

so the forthcoming geeneus album (!), volumes 1, really hits the spot - i wasn't especially looking for a funky artist album but this is a good mix of anthems ('yellowtail', 'emotions' and the 'night' rmx are all here), anthems-to-be ('saturday', also w/katy b) and deeper (!), housier cuts ('out of the future' is immense).

'bongo jam' did bugger all chartwise :(

I never saw it in the shops! Was it licensed to anyone big?

"Ben, did you notice this...
http://www.bm-soho.com/store/AutoKey/101156/cooly/gdub/ornagizer/vol/1/(Cd)"

yeh i saw that thanks, it sounds sick! definitely looking to cop. although i was hoping for vinyl...

looking forward to Geeneus' thing also, liking the sound of what i've heard a lot

'bongo jam' did bugger all chartwise :(

― lex pretend, Monday, November 24, 2008 4:19 AM Bookmark

Screw them for keeping on adding more and more extraneous vocals it didn't need. I still bump the first version.

it didnt do anything chart wise cos its fucking shit. like that other 'funky anthem' song which is just the d malice gabrielle refix looped up and shouted over by some idiot.

the real funky dissapointments of 2008 are that neither do you mind or tell me charted. shameful.

hope no-one minds the promo, but if anyone is in Bristol on Saturday please consider getting down to Take Five Cafe on Cheltenham Rd, got Mak 10 down there, £3 entry, big sound in a tiny basement, it'll be sick...

Bruk

also house, garage, soca, dancehall, all sorts besides

Marcus's most recent show (available in fairly decent quality here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kqmjna) is INSANE - probably the most sustained attempt to make the funky = nu-grime equation. There are no vocal tracks, it's all hard as fuck quasi-dancehall/quasi-grime bangers, lots of MCs doing their business. Not my favourite Marcus funky house set ever (i'm sentimentally attached to all the old ones with Shantie on them) but this is essential for anyone curious about where this music is going. It's got that weird minimal-ish track we were talking about way upthread (it's the third track in the set) and it makes perfect sense here. There seems to be several distinct sub-trends emerging within the hard end of the scene, including:

1) weird minimal tracks a la the one I mention above
2) Little Silver style grime bangers
3) "Rising Sun" style dancehall-ish tracks
4) cavernous tracks played on what sound like monster drum kits which in my head I'm dubbing "hard tribal" (see the track at 1 hour 17 minutes). These make me think of the scary end of pre-techstep jungle, stuff like the the Trace Remix of Babylon's "Splash".

That last strand is given a lot of airtime on the 1 October Rinse set, which resultingly doesn't sound terribly "grime" at all, although still hard as fucking nails for the most part.

I'm sort of relieved Bongo Jam didn't chart in the end, it would doubtless have been written off as an embarrassing novelty record otherwise.

Kode9 played a hyper intense hour of funky at FWD>> last night, large parts of it sounding like it was his own productions. dark, broken, clipped, percussive, edgy, analogue, housey beats. crazy stuff...

i was gonna go to that!! fucking deadlines.

Don't ever recall seeing "Bongo Jam" on physical release in any shop apart from 12" white label so no wonder it didn't chart.

Geeneus album due out next week though so I'll probably pick that up.

i did think there was gonna be a physical release but i haven't been in any record shops recently so who knows...there's definitely a digital one. R1 didn't playlist it though (unlike 'heartbroken' last yr)...maybe 'do you mind' will fare better in jan. so far the funky scene has been really astoundingly terrible at making tracks available.

oh, it transpires that dj ng's 'tell me' is on itunes/7digital (as is the crazy cousinz remix of the alesha dixon single), and perempay & dee's awesome 'time to let go' is on traxsource.com (but not 'in the air'?? no one i know has a full-length quality mp3 of 'in the air' yet)

Yeah, I was looking for "In The Air" (awesome track!) over the weekend to no avail. Get a bloody move on!

the best i have is either http://www.sendspace.com/file/xtx0yu (320kbps but from a mix cd) or http://rapidshare.com/files/136970703/DJ_Perempay_-_In_the_Air.mp3 (full version but sounds like a shitty myspazz rip)

Cheers Lex - most of what I found seemed to have been burned straight off 1Xtra with lots of banal DJ banter and jingles obscuring the actual track.

that LD remix of do you mind is coming out next year after all.

not sure about that MC set with marcus nasty - some of the emceeing on there wasnt as good as i had hoped. jme sounded great but some of sharky majors emceeing was like he had been listening to nothing but 'i see girls' since hes been out of the scene.

wish kode 9 had a radio show.

That new marcus nasty set is insane! Kode 9 last night at plastic people was brilliant...love that club so much. I wish I remember a bit more though :/

I bought 'bongo jam' on emusic BTW

some mp3s which might be of interest!

perempay & dee ft. cleo sol - time to let go http://www.sendspace.com/file/v8mm8q
kcat - get off the wall (delio d'cruz rmx) http://www.sendspace.com/file/g6psob
ma1 ft. sophia - i'm right here (perempay & dee rmx) http://www.sendspace.com/file/0dq0ro

that cooly g ep is good - shame its only on cd though.

new perempay -
http://www.bm-soho.com/store/AutoKey/101417/perempay/n/dee/ft/cleo/soultime/to/let/go

not sure about that MC set with marcus nasty - some of the emceeing on there wasnt as good as i had hoped. jme sounded great but some of sharky majors emceeing was like he had been listening to nothing but 'i see girls' since hes been out of the scene.

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it's sharky EEEEYEAH p of 'do you really like it' fame you pillock.

i was about to say that shark major reading out a funky poem would be excellent lolz, but now i reflect pon it further he could do a nice line in that kinda quasi-mystical spoken word pulpit house one often comes across. (how good was the marcus bit in that set when he goes "yes, just give yourself to us, thats all we want. is you, for the night. your ears your mind. your body, your soul." btw <3<3<3)

whose are the "drink so much brandy I might dance with you mum?" bars? that made me lol

cooly g 2nded! only heard what's on her myspazz though.

that makes sense, cos i was thinking 'fuck! sharky major was really fallen off'. the cooly g ep snippets at blackmarket have one track that marcus has been playing a lot.

*has

really i couldn't disagree more about the mcing on that set - was loving it until jme & frisco came and buggered it up with their cluttery sodding "bars".

in general my current enthusiasm towards marcus' supposed nu-grime sets is somewhat parlous to say the least; the early november one without much mcing was tediously monochrome ("and this one's called... 'tribal congo'" YEAH NO REALLY IS IT??), but with the old garage guys on board this week, so so good all of a sudden. that bit at 75 mins where an okay hardhouse banton spodder comes on and one of them goes "THIS ONE'S SEXY!!" like, omg ur right why didn't you tell me that earlier! god i could barely hear it above the wonderful sound of some canadian junglist wanker's twatois flashcards flying out his hands halfway across the world.

quite funny also that even when the oldsters did get vaguely grimey as it were, riskgo's "ur the dolphin / i'm the shark / lost in the sea /sharks don't bark / ain't gotta ??? for no cutty sark /ur gonna die in the dark, die in the dark"
in partic, it's a- still real silly, and b- "dying in the dark" almost somehow still feels like part of the housey vernacular, like sacrificing yourself on the sweaty altar of warehouse untz untz and whatnot rather than staying at home and raising a ribena to jme's pointless "buss your head at pro evo" lines. i take back everything i said about versatile and 'funky anthem' upthread; the alternative is too dull to bear.

Rtc what you on, Hard House Banton's "Reign" is massive! It reminds me of that old Sean Paul track from 2004, "Life's Not A Test" or whatever it was.

I agree. I don't want the MCing to become more like grime, I want it to maintain that slightly amateurish freshness. I like that Rankin' only has two raps (the one about the lady oozing sex appeal and the "there's no question of a doubt..." one, the latter of which he's been doing for at least 8 years!).

to some extent as much as I really like this set it also makes me nervous: it's the first time that the possibility of "funky house" losing the house and just becoming 2002-era proto-grime has seemed more than fanciful.

See also Spyro's "Woe", a decent track but just a bit too dry and desiccated, it's like it's come back in time from a future world where all the dubstep producers invaded funky and threw away the fun.

Still!

I think it's time to do some track IDs. Some of these have been popping up for ages:

- That bass monster with the sample that goes "Ah! Gotta reload!"
- what's the name of that awesome D-Malice piano stomper (like a beefed up "Visions") with the horns and the ridiculous syncopated climax?
- the actually funky bass riffin' one at about 34 min into this set with the ostentatious bongo percussion on top
- that totally insane syncopated one at 40 minutes with the Low Deep strings
- the eerie, slightly evil one at 46 min that's been around forever.
- the Cadenza+Bounty Killa one that comes on immediately afterwords
- the massive string slammer at 50 min (this part of the set is basically fabulous. "I wanna see you go down low! I wanna see you go down low! I wanna see you go down low! Low low low low low!")
- the anthem at the one hour mark that's been around for ever with the lovely horns and the big bass explosions
- the one chord house anthem immediately afterwards, a bit Fuzzy Logickish, surely this is the peak of the set??? They big up Spyro while it's playing but I'm doubtful that it's him.

xp gah fux sake finney i was in the middle of writing this!

couple more things listening again -

@ 14, 22 & (the doneao at) 33 mins; you might as well give me track id's for these since we're all here.

@ 48 mins, can't quite decide if it's a rapid or an air france riddim but the bounty killer sample one kills it just like how 'twiss' did and people should totally make more n more n more of them, however weak the gesture is really and truly. i dimly recall an elephant man one once as well, where/what was that?

@ 83 mins, plz oh plz can they release 'sirenz' vocalled just as it is there with the "r u ready 4 the sirenz, sirenz" and the joe le taxi singsong, that would be amazing ta very much.

@ 84 that cooly g abstract wobbler coming in briefly, yeah i like it too; 'dis gyal' sounded great on footloose this week as well. as with the roska refix though, i phear the spectre of overmuch bleep n bass. (roska's 'bounce', also on that footloose show, is different gravy and redeems everything though.)

Yes the Joe Le Taxi rip is inspired.

Likewise that Cooly G track is great only if everyone spends their time acting as mediums for the Pied Piper and the Masters of Ceremony.

Oh yeah that 33/34 min one is by Donaeo isn't it. Even if they didn't big him up the percussion at the very beginning gives it away.

I can't remember if we ID'd the 14 min one upthread, it's the "minimal" track I'm talking about. On it's own I'd be worried but it sounds awesome with MCs.

'reign' is as victim to context as much as any of these tracks though really. fair play to you if you reckon you could pluck it out with adoration intact from, ooh i dunno, let's say a dark, broken, clipped, percussive, edgy, analogue kode 9 set cos i sure couldn't.

hey btw what's that unarguably sexy massiveattackey banton tune with the wispy ladymurk vox going "insane i know... could not be true... he la ta, la ta he le ta, le ta"? (it's somewhere on clip 1 on his myspace.) for, like, it as if her love is a handful of ballbearings she's let fall onto the floor, and trail away innit.