― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― m the g (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link
i could write a song about these babies:http://static.flickr.com/33/99272403_0856de77e5_m.jpg
― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Debut is consistently under-regarded in these kind of contests. I'm also a little suspicious about the nature and motives of anyone putting Medulla first, and about how exactly they appreciate her music basically.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link
What do you mean by this? I like it the most, is it that hard to believe?
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Emily Bjurnhjam (Emily Bjurnhjam), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link
i think homogenic feels more like a landscape (didn't she record it in the mountains?) and debut is more about songwriting
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link
x-post
Well by mainstream I sort of meant just what you said: it's more focused on songwriting, less on soundscape. That might actually make it outside the mainstream at this point though. I don't know.
― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― roger goodell (gear), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah i love homogenic, like a whole lot, but sometimes the soundscapiness is a little bloated for me
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link
mix some of that with the soundscape
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Well maybe I will like this new one. I'd like to hear it at least.
― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link
and there seems to be a large difference between the pre- and post-Homogenic audiences as far as how much they value her more "innovative/ground-breaking/uncommercial" side over absolutely anything else about her music.
I don't think she has deliberately fostered this slightly anti-pop, ass-backwards tendency in her followers (although Medulla/DR9 haven't helped dissipate it either!) but god it grates when it's completely antithetical to what she stands for musically.
Anyway I'm not really aiming that at you personally Brainwasher. I respect Medulla immensely but I don't feel like the final package came together nearly as well in reality as it probably did in her imagination. Her reach exceeded her grasp a bit for once. It's a great album but no slam dunk compared to most of the others.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link
i love the sparseness
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link
homogenic >>>>>>> debut >> vespertine > post > selmasongs > medúlla
― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Besides frantic drumming != Merzbow or anything. Unless you're a real UGH! NOT ROCK poptimist cheesehead I can't see what the worry is...
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link
I've got high hopes for this new one!
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Debut
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Medulla = Vespertine > Homogenic >> Post = Selmasongs >> Debut
Medulla and Vespertine are like companion albums to me...
I feel like one of those crazy Bjork fans from the 4um lol.
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link
I wasn't trying to make you fit with that cliche (like I said, not personal) but I've seen it played out far too many times now...
Medulla is -always- far easier to go back and listen to than I imagine, and the sequencing is often effective enough but somehow it just doesn't flow like it could have(?) overall. It takes a bit more effort than her other records, it's not without it's rewards though. Maybe the songcraft took a bit of a back seat to the sonics (for me) in too many places. I dunno, it IS a great album regardless!
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link
Debut is really nothing special when compared to any of her other albums; the only song on it I ever am in the mood to listen to is "Big Time Sensuality". Conversely, "Bachelorette" is easily one of the greatest songs ever written. So, in this comparison, Homogenic all the way.
As far as comparing all of Bjork's albums is concerned, she has never released anything as consistently great as Post. Aside from "Army Of Me", that album is perfectly conceived and sequenced.
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link
and i like army of me too
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link
and isobel is so cool
oh god and it has hyperballad on it
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― roger goodell (gear), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
I really do love Homogenic too; on many days "Joga" is my favorite Bjork ballad.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
it makes you like
crumble
it's close though, "nothing special" wtf!
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link
and hummalongability is massively overrated.
― m the g (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyhow, I adore both, but Homogenic is ultimately more beautiful.
― Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Petroski (petroski), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Zachary S (Zach S), Friday, 26 January 2007 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Petroski (petroski), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― roger goodell (gear), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link
this had better be an arrested development reference or i want my money back
― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh, shit. yeah, it probably is. I can't keep up with the kids today and their pop culture references.
― Zachary S (Zach S), Saturday, 27 January 2007 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link
i now officially own Medulla so i can give it a proper listen.
― surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 27 January 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link
has there been a bjork album poll?
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i like that i started this thread. hi plax! i am listening to debut, so long since i put it on. it's so clean
― surm, Monday, 13 January 2014 05:31 (ten years ago) link
#BigTimeSensuality
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Monday, 13 January 2014 06:24 (ten years ago) link
yup. my favorite song in the 90s.
― surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
Debut.
http://devonrecordclub.com/2014/11/04/bjork-debut-round-73-nicks-choice/
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link
how can you even pit these against each other, homogenic owns Debut.
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
this aged well https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/debut-197568/
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link
I hadn’t considered the fact that old school rockism was Europhobic on top of everything else.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
"Rather than sticking to rock & roll, Debut is painfully eclectic."
Christ, even for rockism, that's... unsubtle.
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link