Andrew W.K.

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yeah, I knew about the whole Bulb connection, and I guess that actually just befuddled me more. the keyboards! the keyboards! and the more i think about it, the more the Andrew WK guy strikes me as some sort of wannabe-Glenn Danzig.

geeta, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i get the schtick. awk just isnt very good at it! really! watch videos of early van halen and then compare! its no contest.

chaki, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I really hated it until about the 100th time I saw a clip of Party Hard after the Osbournes, you know how MTV plays like 3 seconds of a song after each show? Then I decided that I liked saying "Party hard" over and over again until the words have no meaning.

Ally, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Chaki speaks unto my heart, he does.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

"Party Hard" is practically a bubble-gum record. It's fun, catchy, and takes precisely 0% effort to "get it". Is it the image everyone objects to? I'm way past embarassment on this one. Of course the whole package is absurd; it's pretty clear to me that's the point. Ok, go on, resist it if you want; it's your loss. Have you heard "New York City"? *sings*
I love... NEW YORK CITY!
Oh yeah!... NEW YORK CITY!

It's exactly as dumb as that sounds, and it's totally awesome. Yes, I did say "totally awesome".

Sean, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Is it the image everyone objects to?

Just the dullness. And to heck with this 'resisting' idea, that makes it seem that liking it is somehow a natural or correct approach. Garbage. I don't resist Mr. WK, I just don't find the results worth a damn and worth the consideration.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I just think he's totally crap. Really on contrary overdrive with this one I fear.

I quite liked the "YOU.........YOU WORK ALL DAY" part of Party Hard but that's about it. It was oddly compelling.

Ronan, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

GO NED!

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Thankyouverymuch. We should start an elite strike team against him or something.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Only if that means we get to strike him. Repeatedly. With a hot iron.

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Andrew WK's record makes me happy and you guys are being so mean it makes me sad.

Sean, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

he bigs up max martin and marilyn manson

THEN THAT MEANS HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER. Like I said over on ILM, if the man appreciates pop, then demonstrate that! Bah!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I still love the album.

Tom, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Sean, I don't mean to make you sad. It's just that Andrew WK makes me seethe with an inconsolable rage. It's almost like watching the worst band in your high school's Battle Of The Bands get a record.

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

why are we cheering ned for his normal shtick?

jess, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Because I'm so sweet and cuddly, and would not hurt a fly.

Your explanation vis-a-vis unrelenting noise that achieves transcendence in repetition certainly makes sense when it comes to the comparison with Lightning Bolt, say. I like that thought, I may take it as my own. ;-) But I like Lightning Bolt and think WK is go-nowhere codswallop. So they may have similar intents, but terribly different results.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i agree that awk is "go nowhere"...becuz i can't figure out where the hell he could go! another album would probably sound exactly like "i get wet"...which would be pointless (yes, even more pointless than making the album in the first place.)

jess, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Er, Ned -- if he's not worth the consideration, why're you considering him? Go-nowhere codswallop, elite strike team, etc.

(I think Andrew WK is funny, though I could only tolerate about 10 seconds of his SNL performance.)

Andrew DK, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Andrew WK is definitely worth placing in imaginary torture scenarios.

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

There you go being mean again.

Sean, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

why're you considering him?

The $64,000 question. ;-) Mostly it's because of the semi-assumption above I vigorously protest, namely that it is instantly catchy dumb pop/rock. WRONG, at least in my ears. His sin is not attempting his approach, his sin lies in doing so and failing miserably.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I wuv Party Hard. It's just perfect Meatloaf-pop!

Mark C, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I just previewed his album at Aquarius records here in SF (yes, I'm in SF until tomorrow morning.. then it's Davis, Sacramento, Shastas, and ORRREEEGGOOOONNN!!), and I absolutely love it. It's a big huge bag of Cheetos... Cookie Monster As Rock God!

Well, why not?

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

dude, i would PAY to see cookie monster rock out!!! but not andrew wk!

geeta, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

What's going on in Davis?

Kris, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I skimmed through some of the songs on this album at the listening station the other day. I laughed out loud a couple of times because it was one of the most ridiculous things i'd ever heard. (esp. the little robo-voice thing that I think kicks off 'party hard' sweet!!) I then took the headphones off and continued on with my music shopping. I don't see my experience of Andrew WK going much beyond that.

Ron, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i saw him friday. best show i have seen in like 10 years. and the very large, now-yellowing bruise on my left shoulder proves this x 3.

maura, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I laughed out loud a couple of times because it was one of the most ridiculous things i'd ever heard.

Yes; I don't think a record has ever made me laugh so much in my life. It feels so good!

Sean, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I didn't think about it much but when he commands 'YOU ... YOU WORK ALL DAY' - that's the most compelling part of the song - like some kind of throwback to the idea of 'working class rock', obviously, but also SUCH a fascist command and besides, completely ignoring the out of work, insane underclass that he obviously comes from and which probably nurtured him (the guy is a drug abuser, not a working man!) - and by commanding you to think of yourself as a put- upon working guy, you're immediately like, 'yeah, screw them all! all those bosses, leaning on me ...' it's whiny, really ... you know, 'yeah, fuck you, I'm gonna get high because you hurt my feelings, so I deserve it.' It's the classic case of pre-drug intake - or worse - cognitions, the kitschy rationalisations. I mean, not that it would be better to give some kind of lecture on what you should do instead of taking drugs, ala Public Enemy et al, but to have perfected this 'talking to them on their own level' as an artform, - what kind of accomplishment is this? Except for a kitsch accomplishment, like producing the perfect velvet painting ... I thought about what Chuck Eddy said about Guns and Roses - something to the effect of that people complain about them being dumbshits and thus completely miss out on what's great about them, and that he hopes they (record labels?) keep the dumbshits coming. But the thing about Andrew WK is that he's far too pure to ever appeal except to those who are interested in 'art' - thus he really poses no threat to the masses, unlike NWA or the Beastie Boys who are seemingly answerable for millions of white American teenagers delusions of being put upon ... anyway I have to go.

maryann, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i find it hard to believe anyone identifies with andrew wk. whatever demographic he supposedly appeals to on a non-ironic level has to realize he's a total twerp so everyone can laugh and think i'm smart enough to realize andrew wk music is double digit IQ. it's dumb but i can like it anyway because i'm not a snob and there's nothing wrong with a lil mindless fun = selling point?

bc, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

If it is, that's one of the crappiest selling points I've seen in a while, mostly because of this idea that those who will like it aren't 'snobs.' I'm not saying that's your own conclusion, I should note -- but if it's the company's or WK's conclusion, then they really can go fuck themselves.

It seems that not to like WK is apparently a sign of being anti-pop, being anti-dumb fun, being a snob, being humorless, being too serious, being a poor sport, etc. I find all these assumptions wanting.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i'm convinced it's a diabolical conspiracy. set bar low = everyone feels superior, andrew wk immune to criticism, becomes president!

bc, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Hell, it worked for Bush.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I'm not making any assumptions about people who don't like WK, unless they actually say something like "WK is too dumb for me" in which case I think I can assume away.

You, Ned, don't like Andrew WK because he's unmemorable - this tells me nothing about you except your ears work in v.different ways from mine (which I knew anyway) and that you make a lot of fuss about a property (unmemorableness) that doesn't bother me. In fact it's you who's applying an assumed framework to WK - he is pop therefore he must be catchy. I happen to think he is catchy and pop but more than that I love him for the noises and textures: WK tracks make me think of cross-section pictures of the earth's crust, this vast layer of magma and rock (the guitars) with this tiny pretty layer of trees and grass perfectly balanced on top (the keyboards).

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

what about the "landfill" layer?

geeta, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i pretty much had the same reaction to hanle y when i first saw Andrew WK.

di, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

That's his voice I suppose geeta.

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I've been listening to "I Get Wet" most of the day yesterday driving around the Bay Area (where I finally got to meet the notorious Kris Srinivasan, and dropped by the house of a member of a certain band that Mark Sinker really dislikes), and it kinda hit me why I like it..

It's basically a heavy sugary Devo, with a wrestler's voice. And maybe a little Elton John/John Tesh on the piano bits. The whole metal image seems to be a non-clever rue to make Mr. WK to be some sort of rock god, where in fact, I enjoy the music for all the reasons BUT.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

But where are the geysers, earthquakes and volcanoes, Tom? Without that, Gaia is sterile and dies. ;-)

he is pop therefore he must be catchy

*scratches chin* Now this makes me wonder...can it be possible to create something intentionally uncatchy but aimed at a pop audience? Nothing to do with Andrew WK now, more thinking about what pop 'should' be.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

friend had free tickets but i declined; afterparty at tiny bar on 2nd ave called "lit"... it's a stupid bar... reason enough for me to hate AWK... apparently "the woman from hole/smashing pumpkins" had her arm around AWK's waist for awhile. anyway friend talks w/guitar player (the one who wears the hawaiian shirt in the video) and dude is nice guy from chicago who can't wait to go on tour and visit someplace farther away than california. I can't imagine what's going rhough their heads; their whole world just blew the fuck up. 1 song. 1 video. that's all it takes. and then it occurred to me, as i am being related all this, that what irks most of us about the strokes isn't that they "sold out" but that they didn't sell out ENOUGH... they didn't do it AWK-style, a media monster of megarock right out of the gate...

celebrity scoop, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

intentionally uncatchy but aimed at a pop audience

slave 4 u

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ya think? *Intentionally* so, now, a Britney lead single from a heavily hyped up new album? Don't quite see it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

a media monster of megarock right out of the gate...

Then maybe the answer is WK is the new Vanilla Ice.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

o I forgot, at the afterparty he was still wearing white shirt/jeans/sneaker combo that he wears in his video and for his concert! like the kid at Burger King who's still got on his baseball duds after the game.. awww.

celebrity scoop, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

when are they gonna release the new edition of andrew wk with different outfits and hair you can style!?

bc, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

"hair you can style"? eek! can we dip him in lemony fresh pine-sol first to get rid of the grease?

geeta, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

But geeta, then he wouldn't be an "artist"!

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

(He would be lemony fresh, though... choices, choices!)

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

if he tasted like lemon cake it'd be worth it.

Maria, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Remember when someone compared him to Sparks a few months ago? Har har. I'm sure Ned's thrilled with that comparison.

What Tracer said about "not selling out enough" is how I feel about the whole Electroclash thing. I want one of those opportunistic aging club kids to do something totally vulgar and flashy and feelgood--create a new Ru Paul or Deelite--and shoot it into the Top Ten. It's just so classy and blah right now, at least the stuff I've heard.

Arthur, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

˙❤‿❤˙˙❤‿❤˙ (ENBB), Saturday, 11 December 2010 01:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Heading to UC Irvine, it turns out...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 April 2011 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cool, hope he does a whole state college tour! Come to UA, AWK!!

I love my puppy -- and she loves me! (Viceroy), Friday, 1 April 2011 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

most likely the Freemasons or the Illuminati
---SOLD

Teeth, Saturday, 2 April 2011 00:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

FFS, NYC isn't New Babylon, Hollywood is New Babylon -- jeez the second-rate conspiracy theorists these days don't even know their Great White Brotherhoods from their Golden Dawns. Not to mention that the home of Freemasonry in America is either Boston or Washington D.C. (take your pick), and the "Illuminati" (if they exist) are decentralized, they don't have an HQ or whatever and if they did it would probably be in Europe.

Also, clearly AWK isn't a robot or mind-slave or whatever, he is a clone of Jesus Christ (one of two, the other being Steeve Mike), and Dick Clark is Melchizedek. This is all just so obvious...

I love my puppy -- and she loves me! (Viceroy), Saturday, 2 April 2011 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

ned, have you changed your mind on Mr. WK from the second post on the thread (where you said, quote, "garg")?

akm, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

lol

http://twitter.com/#!/AndrewWorKs

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 03:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

my kid watched destroy build destroy every chance I get, budding WK fan now.

akm, Monday, 1 August 2011 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

still a completely bewildering cultural phenomenon to me (mr wk). what kind of weight do people give the steev mike thing? elaborate hoax? was wk a noise artist hired to be a manufactured artist by the studios or what? i still don't fucking get it. I think about this more than anyone cares to know.

akm, Monday, 1 August 2011 06:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

(above post was meant to say: my kid watches DBD every chance HE gets. sorry I have had no sleep)

akm, Monday, 1 August 2011 06:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's a theory that the "original" AWK is not the same guy that it is now, but I'm not sure if I believe it. There was a site that detailed all this that had some very convincing evidence, but it also had some weird ties into the Illuminati and junk like that, so I think a lot of it is your standard conspiracy stuff.

I'm guessing there's something weird going on with it all since it's effected things like the US release of Close Calls (4 years late) but I do thing AWK is purposely making things ambiguous and vague

frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2011 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

I was at an Andrew WK gig last month and it was really quite disappointing. That Alisteir X guy really needs to get off the stage. And the audience needed to be allowed ON the stage. Oh well, never mind. I was lucky enough to be in this video and my pals and I all had a great time. It's a new thing that Andrew did with the Evaporators.

everything, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw him twice last January (one full-band, one solo @ keyboard and playing classic radio jams for audience members to karaoke to) and both were great; the audience were all over the stage. One 120kg-looking hairy sweatball got upset when the crowd started moving out of the way the FOURTH time he tried to stagedive.

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Previous experiences with him have been wondrous but this one was at a shitty venue with terrible sound, too big and too high of a stage which created this distance between him and the audience that I have never experienced before. And Aleister X was onstage with him the whole time, mugging like a maniac and generally dragging things down. I must say that the crowd were as enthusiastic as ever but I just wasn't feeling it.

everything, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 05:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Touring the 'I Get Wet' anniversary and coming to the UK in April - including Glasgow on 14th April! Really excited!

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Thursday, 19 January 2012 09:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah he's comin to Milwaukee in March, can't wait
also pretty excited about this new album he's doing. his recent stuff has been really great.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 January 2012 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Has this been posted? I assume its AWK on keys and uh ---- he's not a bad jazz pianist IMO!

(that said this album is kind of boring to me mainly because its alot of guitar noodling)

Frobisher (Viceroy), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Amazing tonight in Glasgow on the 'I Get Wet' anniversary tour.

It was a fantastically fun show; ceaseless energy and a phenomenally positive vibe to everything, right through both AWK's music and the sold-out, ecstatic, fist-pumping, pogo-ing, crowd-surfing, good-natured audience.


Andrew WK @ Garage, Glasgow by krakow81, on Flickr

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 14 April 2012 23:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

was there too. pretty decent. ive more or less abandoned watching live music as a thing but it was very enjoyable and im glad i went, tho i wasnt partying partic hard and i left before the end, when he played a new song.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

You missed his drum solo finale then.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

unfortunate! though his bit of soloing on his pizza slice guitar early in the evening was less than virtuoso i must say.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

The London gig was hilarious and glorious, it was probably the most up-for-it crowd I've ever seen at a gig. Like there were more people up on the stage by the end than there were in the audience. One of the first people to invade the stage was in a banana suit and Andrew WK was hitting him on the head with an inflatable banana in time with the drums.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 15 April 2012 09:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

He shouldn't have upgraded the venue in London. Upstairs at the Forum was very sparsely populated indeed, though it didn't feel like a dead gig because of the energy from downstairs.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Sunday, 15 April 2012 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was there too! I briefly appear in the video on the bottom right about 10 seconds in grinning like an idiot. Hilarious and glorious sums up the experience, can't remember a rock gig when I've seen so many people just smiling.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha i went to this too, it was awesome

just sayin, Monday, 16 April 2012 00:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Does he straight-up run through I Get Wet in a Don't Look Back fashion, or does he play other material?

etc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 07:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Put on "Close Calls" and "Mother of Mankind" again. Those are both killer. At his best he's got this awesome Sparks/Cardiacs vibe, but a little heavier. I observed the same thing that someone upthread did about "Kicks and Bricks" - when placed next to everything else, it does really sound like a different person. Of course, maybe he's the same but he just decided to stop singing like that to preserve his voice...?

I admit to being really baffled by the guy. For someone who writes 800-word responses to simple questions in interviews it's crazy how little actual information we have on him. All the stuff contenderizer and co. posted on CCWBW were totally OTM - there's something very sinister about this record, and it doesn't feel contrived or put on or anything, just really bizarre. I wonder if he'll do another one like it.

To answer etc's question, in Milwaukee he played all of I Get Wet, with some interludes of him banging on a piano, then a few from the Wolf, and only one tune from Close Calls ("You Will Remember Tonight"). "Head Bang" from the new EP was played and it's as awesome live as you'd expect.

frogbs, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean this raises so many questions:

http://hangout.altsounds.com/features/143838-lowdown-andrew-w.html

frogbs, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

no it doesn't

it is highly entertaining though

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

repping for multinational junk food IS pretty sinister, even if he's being ironic/over-the-top:
"Andrew W.K. - I eat all the best food! Taco Bell, always! And lots of candy, obviously. And I eat tons of Pringles chips, and cheese crackers like Cheese Nips, and I eat lots and lots of microwave meals, like frozen burritos, Hungry Man XL dinners, and Stouffer's meals. And I also love Chunky soups - just all the best tasting food. It's my joy! I eat this food at home too, not just on the road. My goal is always to just eat as much good food as possible, all the time. When we stop at gas stations and truck stops, it's like an amusement park for me! I'll buy three of every single candy bar they have, and then lay them all out on the table in our bus so you can really appreciate the spread and their awesome wrappers. You can have any of them that you want! It's like our own personal candy store. I also get lots and lots of pizza and cheese burgers, french fries, fried chicken. And like I said before, I eat at Taco Bell whenever I see one, even if I'm not that hungry. Sometimes I'll eat at Taco Bell three times in one day. It's all part of my heavenly life. It's just pure happiness. "

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really feel like he and alice waters and michael pollan should have a sitdown.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

This should go in the 'shit that looks like an Onion article but isn't'.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 26 November 2012 11:48 (5 months ago) Permalink

Next series of Destroy Build Destroy to be filmed in Gaza.

studge_siren.gif (onimo), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:09 (5 months ago) Permalink

If all else fails, dude! Party on!

frogbs, Monday, 26 November 2012 15:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

Bah, State Department have pulled the plug http://www.avclub.com/articles/andrew-wk-seriously-named-us-cultural-ambassador-t,89082/

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

strange things are afoot with the W.K.

del griffith, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

http://peterslarson.com/2012/12/02/andrew-wk-how-he-almost-became-the-us-cultural-ambassador-to-the-middle-east/

In the days since the cancellation, I’ve received inside tips that there was a passionate debate in the State Dept. about my going at the last second. It’s possible that someone outside of the State Dept. who wasn’t aware of the trip initially became incensed that they weren’t informed before. Apparently some of these unknown higher-up officials were on my side and others were deeply offended by the idea of me going.

How do you say Dedéckenbauer, Dedélícia, Dedélíte? (onimo), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:55 (5 months ago) Permalink


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