Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr. - the only man qualified to be US President, or a sad old man with more money than sense?

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I googled this. Read his thought on the war against terrorism, a crazy mixed of conspiracy theory and garbled marxist retoric.

Ed, Thursday, 6 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
My response to LaRouche is simply this: Wait and see. He's emphatically predicting the "imminent collapse" of the world economy, so if we're not in a Depression before the next US Presidential election, then we'll know he's full of it.

Notice, also, how none of his detractors ever deal with what he's saying per se, regarding Vernadsky, the scientific definition of truth, the reasons for American success, etc.

Take the credibility of his detractor's arguments, too. His opponents smear him as a racist, and anti-Jewish. How many racists do you know have a leading black civil rights advocate (Amelia Boynton) on their board of directors (Shiller Institute)? And anti- Jewish? Judging by the names, half the EIR writing staff are Jews. Give us a break.

Pazhdei Smirnoff, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

How many racists do you know have a leading black civil rights advocate on their board of directors ?

do you live in a world without pat buchanan? (if so how can i get there ha ha)

ethan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Notice, also, how none of his detractors ever deal with what he's saying per se

I do love when the blindly devoted try for 'patient explanation' and come across like failed cultists.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

a 12-year-old tracer, even more gullible than now, in white button-down shirt that was only worn while traveling, passes by card table with litch-er-cher on it, a globe, and a talkative LaRouche evangelist who, when told no money was on thee tracer's person, bet that "if I turned ya upside down some change'd probably come out!" Terrified boy exits stage left as prosyletizer SPINS GLOBE ANGRILY

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"12" being one of the two ages one can be before one's teens. the other is "7".

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's easy for the worldly wise to mock Lyndon H LaRouche Jr - just as great men throughout history have always been mocked. What such people fail to realise is that if he is right we stand on the brink of not a recession, but the end of civilisation as we know it.

And only building the Eurasian land bridge can save us.

dV, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hey, I'll sign up for that!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I believe I just got a pamphlet from one of his lackey's today on Steinway street. I didn't really read much, but I did manage to see LaRouche and I read the second page, which seems to claim that Sept. 11 was an insider coup by a minority power. It said that no Arab group could've pulled such a thing off. The man handing out the stuff (and collecting donations) believes this is the first step in the powers-that-be's goal to pit the world against Islam. I will dig out the brochure and read it and respond again to this post if it's still around when I do so.

Nude Spock, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh yeah, and it did talk of an economic collapse, so we're definitely talking about the same guy. Amazing that you'd have brought him up at a time I was just beginning to learn of the guy. I literally read the one page and asked the person who was with me, "Did they seem nuts to you?" We weren't sure. Now, I'm pretty sure I needn't read the whole thing.

Nude Spock, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
I am now afraid of Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=437716

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

He's had a recruiting team of about four or so people on campus now for about four months. Spectacular failures. One time my coworkers and I were going to lunch and one of the LaRouche folks was standing on the other's shoulders and sorta shouted to me, "Don't pretend you don't notice us!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

History from a LaRouchian perspective:

http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/intro.htm#fdr

fletrejet, Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

he's horrifying. his followers can be quite bullying.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

When I was thirteen (this is 1984), I caught an informercial of his where he argued something along the lines of "The USSR will invade the United States because history says so! Elect me and this won't happen!" It scared the fucking bejesus out of me and set me off in a deep, crippling depression for several weeks.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

In my freshman year at St. John's College, I knew of not one but two students with very very deep ties to LaRouche. One was a cokehead nutcase (or just naturally acted like one) I shared one class with: starved for attention, he never sat on chairs in class but crouched on them, and just could not stop spouting (rather forcefully) the most inane observations about Plato, Aristotle, etc. He told people that Lyndon himself was his godfather.

Another guy, this time NOT an asshole, had a father that was evidently a high-ranking member of the group, but he just didn't like talking about it and seemed completely embarrassed about it.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

I might add that any given time, a SJC campus has only 400 or so students. I was told that the LaRouchians had a 'special interest' in SJC because its great books cirriculum deeply appealed to the group, as they fancied LL as one of the last great humanist thinkers or something. (I remember one letter-to-the-editor in Newsday circa '85 that compared LL to Dante.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

i suspect la rouche's talents may lie in the limning of the many circles of hell.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

Amateurist is right about bullying; a couple of months ago one guy on St-Denis wouldn't let me go, kept asking me for money, talking about LaRouche's presidential campaign etc. I was like, "you know I can't vote for president right?"

s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 29 August 2003 02:17 (twenty years ago) link

LaRouchies are good at giving good face to the unaware.

I have a friend at Temple who started volunteering for them, and buys into him as a New Deal Rooseveltian savior, and just refuses to believe anything I send to her about the man.

It's sad. Almost like losing a friend to a religious cult, but slightly less dangerous and controlling. I hope.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 29 August 2003 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

My all-purpose response to LaRouchies, which has had moderate success on three or four separate occasions: "Have you ever thought about cutting out the middleman and just campaigning for Wile E. Coyote?" They never know what you're talking about, but it leaves them confused for long enough to make your escape.

Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Friday, 29 August 2003 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

I can see why LHLR keeps running for President - he is a sad old man with more money than sense - but I don't really get why people keep joining his cult.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:11 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, the Eurasian landbridge, for fuck's sake.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:11 (twenty years ago) link

"THEY ARE FOOLING US WITH THEIR CLEVER LIES BUT NO MORE" is a very dogged long-standing american cultural meme (cf r.hofstadter: "the paranoid style in american politics")

and cities like zion (?) in michigan (?) set up to establish a community where all agreed on the truth, which is that the earth is a hollow sphere and we live on the INSIDE

ordinary media can never puncture such belief systems, bcz "THEY" run the media so it is bound to be full of lies (it helps that the media fairly often DOES often contain lies)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:28 (twenty years ago) link

His deluded acolytes will tell you (with the kind of amazing, smug, total kick-ass self-righteousness that can be really disarming if you don't keep ypour eye on tha ball) that he's being persecuted so he must be on to something. Just another prophet written off as a madman.

A fate said prophet also shares with legions and legions of madmen.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:18 (twenty years ago) link

and cities like zion (?) in michigan (?) set up to establish a community where all agreed on the truth, which is that the earth is a hollow sphere and we live on the INSIDE

Zion, Illinois. The Shoes came from there. So did Local H, I think.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:30 (twenty years ago) link

did anyone ever see his classic leaflet "Is Satan In Your Schoolyard?", complete with fetching picture of teen girl in red leather catsuit with horns holding a trident?

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:35 (twenty years ago) link

hmmmm well all I can say is i hope like hell that bush does not steal another election..sheesh I don't think I could put up with bush for another term!! ughhhhh

lezah28, Friday, 29 August 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

Zion, Illinois. The Shoes came from there.

oh man Daddino that was just classic beyond classic

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 29 August 2003 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.heptune.com/agent.jpg
"MUST...DESTROY...ZION..."

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 30 August 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

If you are a progressive or a libertarian, Lyndon LaRouche's notions sound errily appealing...at first...
then you discover
1) his madcap theories about how the WWF (World Wildlife Foundation) is a front for all sorts of "Brits are Taking Over the US Government"-type conspiracies...
2) His on-again off-again, seemingly random support for/attacks on President Clinton back in the mid 90s/
3) Shady links to the former Ku Klux Klan members.

and suddenly you can't decide where he really stands on an issue.
Or even what universe he's living in.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 30 August 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

You have to admire the scope of Larouche's vision. I was talking to one of his missionaries at the UW one time (untypically a gentle and softspoken man) and he could give Larouche's opinion any issue under the sun ... were Neanderthals and Humans the same species? They were! Did Atlantis exist? Yes, it was a prehistoric kingdom in Morrocco!

tim smoot, Saturday, 6 September 2003 05:40 (twenty years ago) link

You really think that the guy was accurately portraying Larouche's beliefs?

I mean, well, if that were *me* I'd be making all kinds of crap up as I went along, and changing it from person-to-person for excitement. Or something.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 6 September 2003 07:08 (twenty years ago) link

Zion, Illinois. The Shoes came from there. So did Local H, I think.

There were still enough loonies from the religious right there in the mid-Eighties to drive one music zine publisher out of town and send bomb threats to one record store that sold rock music.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Sunday, 7 September 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
There were a crop of new drones hawking his stuff on campus two weeks back. Poor souls.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

there always seem to be a crop of new drones hawking larouchie shit around the hoboken post office. i've always wondered about what's up w/ this schtick?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw them a couple months ago in front of the DMV in Wayne. They had this desparate, vague "We Hate Bush Too!" schtick to try to lure people in, but no one seemed to be buying it.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to see them a lot at Rutgers.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Incidentally, friends of mine often refer to someone they don't like as "Douche LaRouche". I never bothered to ask if this had anything to do with Lyndon.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

End-times Hysteria: Cult-Leader Tries to Induce Suicide In Slacking Followers–and in Henry Kissinger - and Partly Succeeds

Right-wing cult leader and convicted felon Lyndon LaRouche is in big trouble this summer…(after a) now infamous morning briefing that emanated from his Leesburg, Va. headquarters in the early morning hours of April 11, 2007.

This document–signed by LaRouche–was in some respects just a garden-variety tirade in which the 84-year-old LaRouche called the Baby Boomers in his organization (those who had joined in the late 1960s and early 1970s) a pack of deranged, senile, and morally degenerate slackers… The statement included …a suggestion that certain of the Boomers were so burned-out and worthless that the best solution for them might be to simply commit suicide.

Within hours after the briefing was sent by email to members of LaRouche’s International Caucus of Labor Committees (ICLC) worldwide, Kenneth Lewis Kronberg, 58, a Jewish member of the organization who had been in it for most of his adult life, drove to a highway overpass in Sterling, Va., exited his car, and jumped to his death. Kronberg had been the owner and chief executive officer of PMR Printing Co., a firm that printed most of the cult’s propaganda as well as servicing many outside clients.

(Earlier, LaRouche had tried to induce suicide in others including HENRY KISSINGER:)

The LaRouchian hysteria about Kissinger resulted in a strong indirect warning to him in July 1982. An EIR news brief quoted a prediction by an unnamed psychic that if any attempt should be made on the life of LaRouche, “a list of 13 well-known political figures, headed by Henry Kissinger, Nancy Kissinger, and Alexander Haig will meet sudden death by either massive heart attacks or strokes.” Death fantasies about the Symbolic Jew thereafter became commonplace in LaRouchian publications. … EIR boasted that, as a result of Operation Nuremberg [a LaRouche harassment operation against the former Secretary of State], Kissinger had become a “cardio-vascular risk” and might “choose (a) coward’s way out” (i.e., suicide). A New Solidarity editorial (suggesting a ‘final solution’ of inducing suicide in ‘problem people’)… asked: “Why should the worthwhile vast majority of the human race settle for attempts to solve its antisocial problems on a case-by-case basis? Why not get organized to settle with such characters all at once?”

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

A Washington Monthly story on the suicide that Elvis T. mentions in the post immediately previous, as well as an overview of where the organization stands. I admit I had seen a lot less of the flyers and pamphlets around.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 November 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I still have a copy of The Night They Came to Kill Me given to me at the DMV

burt_stanton, Monday, 5 November 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

they're cultish but not bloodthirsty like other rightwing americans AFAICS

Heave Ho, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

they're still all over the place in montreal for some reason.

s1ocki, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

they certainly are.

Simon H., Monday, 5 November 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

what do they want from us

s1ocki, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

lol
By acting to defend Russian citizens against a terrorist-type attack by the Soros government of Georgia, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has delivered a decisive defeat to the British Empire, said Lyndon LaRouche today. Any capitulation by Russia to the criminal aggression by the Soros puppet government of Mikheil Saakashvili would have been tragic for civilization.

Putin's action was objectively required, LaRouche continued. He was absolutely correct. He and President Medvedev could see that the British Empire, with its U.S. appendages, and its tool George Soros, was heading to consolidate its world empire. The British, and Putin, knew that the only obstacle to their plan at this time, is Russia, with its thermonuclear capability. If Russia had submitted to the terms being dictated by the British, the world would have been on the road to World War III.

Thus, Putin decided he had to draw the line. He acted decisively, and backed the British and the U.S. down. As a result, the Georgian puppet government has been destroyed, and a message has been delivered to the entire world.

Some British thinkers got that message, LaRouche said, pointing to an article in the London Daily Telegraph of today by diplomatic editor David Blair. Blair writes the ``by seizing the opportunity to pound Georgia with air strikes and military incursions, Vladimir Putin, Russia's Prime Minister, is sending an emphatic message with global consequences. The curtain has fallen on the era when NATO steadily expanded into Eastern Europe and onwards to embrace the former republics of the Soviet Union--and Russia was able to respond with nothing more than bluster.... The balance of power in Europe has fundamentally changed....''

What Russia faced was a Pearl Harbor-like sneak attack by the Soros administration of Georgia, an attack carried out by the tool of the Hitler-like Soros, with the aim of Hitler-like ethnic cleansing, LaRouche said. Putin saw the existential threat to Russia, and where it was leading, and he acted, as FDR did against Pearl Harbor. He knew that if he did not, the British Empire--faced with the dissolution of its world financial system--would have pressed on toward world war.

The silly screams from the Bush Administration only testify to the effectiveness of the Putin action, LaRouche said. As for the Presidential candidates, the fact that Barack Obama is a bought-and-paid-for stooge for George Soros makes it hopeless that he could come to his senses. In the case of McCain, LaRouche said that he should stop being silly, and sit down and think, rather than shooting off his mouth.

The Russian action against the Georgian provocation is a crucial turning point, LaRouche concluded. It reverses almost 20 years of history, during which the British Empire, through Soros and other agencies, moved to take advantage of the collapse of the Soviet Union, to consolidate world empire. Through this entire period, the American people--the only other significant point of resistance--tragically capitulated, negotiating their own destruction, refusing to take the threat to their nation, and the world, seriously. How could Americans be so stupid as to tolerate Bush? How could they let Soros choose the Democratic Party presidential candidate?

The key to victory over the enemy of mankind, the British Empire, is to refuse to compromise on fundamentals, to turn over the rules of the game, LaRouche said. That is the decision which Prime Minister Putin made, for the benefit of all mankind.

Some people in Britain have gotten the message, LaRouche said. Now, it's time the American people did as well. It's time to destroy everything associated with the British Empire, especially its leading agents, the Hitler-like Soros, and Al Gore. Either this is done between now and the November election, or there won't be a United States.

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August 14, 2008 By Lyndon LaRouche and the Political Action Committee

velko, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link

In the case of McCain, LaRouche said that he should stop being silly, and sit down and think, rather than shooting off his mouth.

I admit I would love to actually see LaRouche tell McCain this to his face.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link

more like ladouche, rite

haitch, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I have a friend at Temple who started volunteering for them, and buys into him as a New Deal Rooseveltian savior, and just refuses to believe anything I send to her about the man.

Every once in a while, I'll Google her name just to see if she's surfaced. A couple of old hits where she was leading LaRouchie delegations to Korean labor or somesuch, but no sign yet of her being de-programmed.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, 5 March 2010 06:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought that the revive was about this

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/04/kesha-rogers-impeach-obam_n_485870.html

('_') (omar little), Friday, 5 March 2010 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link

It kind of was, that's what brought it to mind.

note: her district would border Ron Paul's. Hijinks!

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, 5 March 2010 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Press accounts alleged that between April and September 1973, during what LaRouche called "Operation Mop-Up," NCLC members began physically attacking members of leftist groups that LaRouche classified as "left-protofascists"; an editorial in LaRouche's New Solidarity said of the Communist Party that the movement "must dispose of this stinking corpse."[43][44][45] Armed with chains, bats, and martial-art nunchuk sticks, NCLC members assaulted Communist Party, SWP, and Progressive Labor Party members and Black Power activists, on the streets and during meetings. At least 60 assaults were reported. The operation ended when police arrested several of LaRouche's followers; there were no convictions, and LaRouche maintained they had acted in self-defense. Journalist and LaRouche expert Dennis King writes that the FBI may have tried to aggravate the strife, using measures such as anonymous mailings, to keep the groups at each other's throats.[46][47][48][49][50][51]

mark s, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

They fucked up the Democratic primary in Illinois when they pulled off an upset because people had no clue who they were. https://www.nytimes.com/1986/03/20/us/2-conservative-extremists-upset-democrats-in-the-illinois-primary.html

Twee.TV (I M Losted), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link

I think my first exposure to him was someone handing out pamphlets at my high school with titles like Children of Satan: Beast-Man Cheney, which really got to the heart the issue tbf.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link

that IL primary was my first exposure to LaRouche. Even as a kid i found that pair of nominees a little spooky.

omar little, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

rip big guy

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link

*already miles deep into the concert pitch standardisation conspiracy*

mark s, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link

larouche . . . otm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzPKEJHWoAA10aC.jpg:small

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link

Every so often I search for the name of an acquaintance who disappeared into the LaRouche org around 2003-4 but references to her stop around 2007. Hopefully she just got married and doesn't use her maiden name at all and isn't in the Tower of London or something.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 04:23 (five years ago) link

lol at prince philip outlasting the big guy

JD Salinger - King of Trainers (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 11:09 (five years ago) link

graphic design was his passion

mark s, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 11:11 (five years ago) link

i remember being accosted (ok, approached) by larouchites in front of post offices in the early 1990s. i think they hung out there?

i feel like if larouche were just 20–25 years younger he might have had a shot at president if he ran as a republican.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

yeah, history has firmly established that larouche's only problem was that he ran for the wrong party

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link

it's interesting he lived so long. goes to show you can just do whatever you want during your time here in the simulation and it will have no consequences. no one will hit you with a lightning bolt for being hateful or a lunatic.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link

this is news?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

members of leftist groups that LaRouche classified as "left-protofascists"


man had a way with words, honestly

a surprise challenge that ended with a gunging (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link

i don't fully understand what his deal was

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link

I remember dropping off a package at the post office in 2009 or so, and passing a table festooned with photoshopped images of Obama with Hitler's hair and mustache. I briefly confronted them ("this level of discourse is why American politics doesn't work"), assuming they were right wing nuts, but they were LaRouche nuts.

no expense was incurred (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link

His deal was the Black Guelph Faction:

It was the same Venetian Party, the so-called Lombards of the Black Guelph faction, whose usury and wars plunged fourteenth-century Europe into the New Dark Age culminating in the Black Death pandemic.

From the beginning of Venice's power as the Western subcapital of Byzantium, it steered the efforts to destroy the Augustinian order in Western Europe, as it did from the time of Charlemagne. It was this Venetian Party, in the guise of the Black Guelph faction, which exploited the conditions following the A.D. 1250 death of Frederick II, to plunge Europe into the fourteenth century's New Dark Age.\\ That is the same Venetian Party, represented by such agencies as the pro-genocide Club of Rome, and that more powerful Cini Foundation based upon San Giorgio Maggiore, which connives at bringing about a planetary New Dark Age today.

Western Europe recovered from Venice's last New Dark Age on the basis of the Renaissance projected by Dante Alighieri and his successor Petrarch. The watershed of modern European civilization became the A.D. 1439 Council of Florence. Out of this Council came the modern form of sovereign nation-state, based upon literate forms of common languages, and dedicated to fostering the benefits of scientific and technological progress. Since 1439, the consistent dedication of the Venetian Party has been to eradicate the work of that Council of Florence. As Oxford University's evil John Ruskin merely typifies this program, the Venetian Party is dedicated to eradicating the institutions of scientific progress and the sovereign nation-state republic, to turn the world back to conditions like those established by the Black Guelph party at the beginning of the fourteenth century.

mark s, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link

"evil John Ruskin" sounds like something trump would come up with if he was into art history

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

He was way before my time; I don't ever remember him coming up in conversation.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link

ruskin? i'd hope so

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link

I hope John Ruskin comes up in conversation regularly tbh.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link

does his cult still exist? I can't recall the last time I saw one of his followers at a post office (i guess that really was a thing?) or a rally or whatever. did they peak in the 1980s?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link

I don't know, but LaRouche still has his cult.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

must be fairly lonely these days. they've been outrun by the alex joneses etc. and the president, i guess.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link

i saw some larouchies on 5th ave a couple months ago, with some DEFEND TRUMP provocations. turns out the case against trump is secretly funded by the royals in yet another front in their perpetual coup plot.

adam, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link

i asked for some literature but they said it was for donors only :(

adam, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link


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