― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 7 February 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 7 February 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 February 2003 02:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 7 February 2003 05:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 February 2003 05:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 February 2003 05:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 7 February 2003 06:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
ahem.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 February 2003 06:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Perhaps you see where I am going with this.
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 7 February 2003 09:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, The Velvet Undergound, to name one thing... and Sonic Boom, and... Psycho Candy, and... The Crystal's recording of Da Doo Ron Ron... Bobby Gillespie's trousers, naturally... 'Life In The Victorian Country House' by Mark Girouard... Julian Sands, Hilton Betelgeuse... the horn arrangements on Lazer Guided Melodies... Pizza Romana at La Porchetta... Julian Casablancas' ass..."
Har har har! Life is worth living after all!
― kate, Friday, 7 February 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
"...and between them both, they licked the coffin clean."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― piscesboy, Friday, 7 February 2003 15:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― smee (smee), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the pinefox, Friday, 7 February 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
(This is the kind of intelligent artistic debate we need!)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 7 February 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 7 February 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 February 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 7 February 2003 23:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 7 February 2003 23:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 7 February 2003 23:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
(I'm not in love just now...)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 February 2003 00:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 8 February 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
(note: I'm not in love but I'm using the guy I'm sleeping with anyway)
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 8 February 2003 02:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, foreign movies, to name one thing... and my father, and... Quadrophenia, and... The Ronettes' 'Be My Baby'... italian girls, naturally... 'The Essential Calvin and Hobbes' by Bill Watterson... Robert Duvall in 'Apocalypse Now', The 'Mats... the end sequence of 'Cinema Paradiso'... the 1.50 egg creams at that candy store on A... and... now it gets depressing..."
― jm (jtm), Saturday, 8 February 2003 06:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nellie (minna), Saturday, 8 February 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link
gonna watch this tonight. i'm in THAT sort of mood.
does it not have it's own thread??
― pisces, Sunday, 23 September 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, Walt Whitman, to name one thing... and Lenny Bruce, and... Illmatic, and... The Clash's recording of "Jail Guitar Doors"... lolcats, naturally... 'The Sun Also Rises' by Hemingway... Phillip Seymour Hoffman, John Coltrane... the way Miles hits the first high note on "Sketches of Spain"... the Stuffed Poblano at Kerbey Lane... Niki's hips..."
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 23 September 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
ILE's secret Most Emo Thred.
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 23 September 2007 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, shit, I was actually planning on watching this later today, as well. Weird.
― dell, Sunday, 23 September 2007 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Well it's Sunday night isn't it? I like to think half the world's about to watch it.
― pisces, Sunday, 23 September 2007 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
hah
― dell, Sunday, 23 September 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link
hoos otm, largely.
― kenan, Sunday, 23 September 2007 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, Kraftwerk, to name one thing... and Cary Grant, and... "Super Coming" by the Boredoms, and... Steely Dan... Bergman movies..."
― kenan, Sunday, 23 September 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link
8 1/2. Can I add that? And Orson Welles. And Jacques Tati.
― kenan, Sunday, 23 September 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, John Barth, to name one thing... and Jesus, and..."The Crane Wife", and... the Pet Shop Boys' recording of "Where the Streets Have No Name"... whaling, naturally... "The Brothers Karamazov" by Dostoevsky...Clive Owen, M.I.A... the deep sounds rising up about eleven minutes into Rimsky Korsakov's "Russian Easter Overture"... the lamb tikka masala at Spiceroot..."
― Maria, Sunday, 23 September 2007 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link
That grin on Orson Welles face in The Third Man.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i hate this thread
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
jimmy mod otm
― ghost rider, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
"That one guy" hating things.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i can only handle this movie when i'm miserable
― ghost rider, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
and then it's pretty much my fave ever!
BUNCH OF CULTURAL REFERENCES... ANNOYING NEW YORK REFERENCE... 17-YEAR-OLD CHICK I'M SCHEMING
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
ew, dude.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think it's a good speech. but i do enjoy listing things i like.
― Maria, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link
in the context of the movie, maybe the point is that he doesn't know what he likes, much less wants, he just talks everything to death. So the listing is a bit ironic, innit?
― kenan, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, James Joyce, to name one thing... and William Morris, and..."Love Will Tear Us Apart", and... Ella Fitzgerads recording of "Mack the Knive"... Woody Allen movies up to Crimes and Misdemeanors, naturally... "The Rings of Saturn" by W G Sebald...Peter Lorre, Caribou...the last minute or so of The Blacksmith by Planxty...my homemade coconut macaroons..."
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 23 September 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
None of the above. Artists overrate art as a reason to live.
― Aimless, Monday, 24 September 2007 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Please explain this.
― Ned Trifle II, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Basically, I love art and when I feel low and people can't reach me - and obviously as quit it says if you're at the point where you need to count or name things that make life worth living -- not a good sign! - but when I am at that point then I do find that art (by which I mean music and film and architecture) does offer me a way back to feeling human again. Having recently watched my father pass away I have to say I found the ability of some art to do this for me extremely helpful.
― Ned Trifle II, Monday, 24 September 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
He hated Woody Allen films incidentally. But loved trad jazz. So you see they could have found something in common through art!
― Ned Trifle II, Monday, 24 September 2007 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link
you guys upthread are being ridiculous, the speech clearly lists a bunch of social/personal things along with art and whatnot
― J.D., Tuesday, 25 September 2007 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link
but hey obv life would be better if art and movies and music didn't exist and we all just sat around a big table enjoying each other's company
― J.D., Tuesday, 25 September 2007 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link
tuomas is totally otm; u guys are all weird for trying to separate out "art" from "people" or whatever
― max, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link
"whaling, naturally"
LOL
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
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― abebe¿abebe (and what), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I do still need to read Sentimental Education
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I hate this thread.
― kenan, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Aimless IS otm, and that's the whole point of the scene. His listing his favorite artwork is just a parlor game, no more reasons to live that Mary's "Academy of the Overrated." It's exactly the same noise. So that's why when he gets to the point in his list where there's an actual person, he has an "OMG!" moment and goes running down the street.
― kenan, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Only he's STILL wrong, because his impulse is to go try to suck some more life out of someone who has everything ahead of her, instead of taking stock, admitting his soul-crushing vapidness, and swallowing a whole bottle of seconal.
― kenan, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Kids, I'm so glad you understand the pathos at the heart of Manhattan, but please stop reading it into everyone else partaking of my Madlib, thanks.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I suppose I did just say it's a parlor game, didn't I?
― kenan, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
"partaking of my madlib"
― i'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
lolcats, naturally.
― been HOOS, where yyyou steene!? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, Sifl & Ollie, to name one thing... and Bruce Haack, and... "Space Ritual", and... The Velvet Undergrounds's recording of "Sunday Morning"... Taco Bell, naturally... 'The Secret Doctrine' by H.P.Blavatsky... Charlize Theron, James Brown... the record-store scene in "A Clockwork Orange"...the sesame chicken at Chinese Buddha... that weird bump on my head..."
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpgI want ya'll to play this at funerals in the hood.Til all this black on black crime stop.Some say the blind lead the blind.But in the ghetto you never know,When it's gon be yo time.http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Sons of Funk, Mo B. Dick, O'dell]Sittin at the ghetto thinkin boutAll my homies passed away (uuunnnggghhh!)Candy painted cadillacs and triple goldThat's how me and my boys rolledHow could it be?Somebody took my boy from meMy best friend's goneAnd I'm so all aloneI really miss my homiesEven though they gone awayI know you in a better placeAnd I hope to see ya soon somedayhttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Master P]I used to hang with my boy even slang with my boyUsed to bang with my boy, goddam I miss my boyWe started out youngstas in the park throwin birdsIn your hearse, damn it's sad to see my nigga in the dirtThe game got me workin, got me perkin, never jerkinStill blowin dolja fo ya cause I know you up there workinYa little baby's cool and ya baby's mama straightBut today's a sad day to see the t-shirt with ya faceFrom the cradle to the grave, from the streets we used to fallIn the park you liked to ball, put yo name upon the wallIn the projects you's a legend on the street you was a starBut it's sad to see my homeboy ridin in that black carA lotta soldiers done died, a lotta mothers done criedYou done took yo piece of the pie but you was too young to retireWhy soldiers ride for yo name leave it vainSome Gs never change, damn they killed you for some changeSmile for my homie Kevin Miller my boy RandallThe ghetto persons that lost they loved ones to these ghetto scandalshttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpgTake a minute to smile for the dead (uuunnnggghhh!)Smile for the dead (RIP 2Pac, Makaveli) All my homies who done made it to the crossroads(Biggie Smalls)http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Sons, Mo B. O'dell]How could it be?Somebody took my boy from me(It's like I can't believe you gone)My best friend's gone(Sometimes I feel like I can't go on)And I'm so all alone(Everytime I see something you done leftI really miss my homies(It just remind me, more and more of you, dawg)Even though they gone away(I just keep reminiscin)I know you in a better place(Cause I know you alright)And I hope to see ya soon someday(And I keep smilin, knowin I'm a see you in the crossroads]http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Pimp C]We used to grip on the grain and flip them candy toysBut I'd give up all that bullshit if I could get back my boyOff in the club smokin weed til 3, hollerin at the hoesSpendin $4000 on me on gators and clothesWhen I turned to rap, he had to chase the gameNigga told me, "C, leave that dope, cause rappin is yo thang"I ain't gone even lie, some nights I ride and cryWonderin why the real niggas always the ones to dieSo I just smoke my weed and try to clear my mindI wish that I had the power to turn back the hands of timeI wonder if there's a heaven up there for real GsFor all the niggas in the game that be sellin keysI keep my memories, try to keep my head stromgBut baby it's hard to be strong, when yo main homie gonehttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Sons, Mo B. O'dell]Even though you gone away(Even though you gone, you ain't never gon be forgotten)I know you in a better place(Cause as long as I'm hereYou gon live through me and other TRU playas)I really miss my homiesEven though they gone awayI know you in a better placeAnd I hope to see ya soon somedayhttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Silkk]I'm just sittin here dazed thinkin bout all the times we hadThinkin the past, some was good and some was badRemember Dante?It was a group of us, just a group of fiveNow three dead, one in jail, it seem right now I'm the only one aliveTo all my soldiers before me, may ya'll rest in peaceWhen He took three, took my soul, just the bodiesHe at the crossroads guide us out to the rest of meWishin I could rewind time like demosMe and you gettin girls, writin down numbers like memosMakin million dollar bets, makin all our money stretch like limosEven though I smile, it's sad, but they say gangstas can't cryBut if I close my eyes and visualize me togetherThen I suddenly wanna smileTo see you laid down when it's yo time, when your time was upYou never seen your child, but he's here to remind usEven though you was wrong, I never could belive that that was trueYou was with me forever, you could check my rest in peace tattoosSee me and C and P forever gon be ridin and thugginRest in peace to all the ones that didn't make itAnd rest in peace to my brotherWe gon miss youhttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg(I love these fools)I know you in a better place(Every time I get on my knees)And I hope to see ya soon someday(I pray for you, I'm glad you in a better placeI hope I see ya soon, ain't no more killinAin't no more fights, and ain't no more tears)
― pasantino R.I.P. - pour out a 40 of boss hogg (and what), Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Is this our only Manhattan thread? I just saw this film for the first time and want to read what you guys think, because I think I loved it.
― krakow, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link
its discussed on some of the other Woody Allen threads (of which there are too many, tbf) - this is widely regarded as one of the peaks of his career, after Annie Hall.
I still think its an amazing movie, but my perspective on it has shifted over the years, I kinda see it differently now then I did as a teenager/college kid
― shake hands with Gongo? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link
(by which I mean on initial viewings I thought the characters were all really engaging/charming/cool but watching it in later years I'm struck by how assholish and narcissistic everyone is, with the exception of Muriel Hemingway)
― shake hands with Gongo? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
dialogue is still hilarious tho, great script, tons of jokes
Aye, I was laughing very heavily. Thanks btw. This was indeed my first ever Woody Allen movie; that virginity was lost tonight.
I thought it was very funny, wonderfully natural seeming (be that well-observed writing and/or great acting), beautiful to look at, clever and with great music. Yeah, I liked it a lot.
― krakow, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Doing this thread's rewrite is a lot harder than I expected though. I'm struggling immensely to fill in the blanks for my own self.
― krakow, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I did a genuine serious one, in the end:
"Well, all right, why is life worth living? That's a very good question. Well, there are certain things I guess that make it worthwhile. Uh, like what? Okay. Um, for me... oh, I would say... what, Jack Kerouac, to name one thing... and Richey Edwards, and... the opening build of 'New Paths To Helicon, Pt. 1', and... Nirvana's recording of 'Where Did You Sleep Last Night?'... Japanese psychedelic music, naturally... 'American Psycho' by Bret Easton Ellis... Bill Murray, Keiji Haino... those incredible abstract colours by Rothko... the burgers at Ad Lib... Angela's hair..."
― krakow, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link
This is a great thread. I'll try to answer thoughtfully when this Michael Jackson thing is over.
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, February 7, 2003 2:19 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark
the world awaits
― what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
"...liberal Democrats waking up and starting a progressive pahty..."
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
this speech is no "we need the eggs"
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
"and in such small pohtions!"
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 February 2003 02:19 (6 years ago) Bookmark
― Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 07:53 (fourteen years ago) link
nanalyzing the scene
http://www.issuu.com/interiorsjournal/docs/interiors1212
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
I've always been mystified by "the crabs from Sam Wo's"...or whatever he says
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
such a Becker-Fagen line
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
why?
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
years ago I wrote this short story about my Mother called "The Castrating Zionist"
the mussels are better
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
Richard Brody:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2011/11/the-crabs-at-sam-wos.html
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
but is Sam Wo's still open?
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
I never understood, did I have the name of the restaurant right? What is Sam Wo's anyway, a NYC restaurant? That's all, disregard
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
yes, it was. Long gone, apparently, tho one w/ same name in SF closed last year.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link