In Damnation of...<i>Horses</i> by Patti Smith

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laura branigan was cute back then

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:17 (twenty years ago) link

laura branigan was cute back then

Well......cuter than Patti Smith, certainly.

Andrew Eldritch's favorite records....

http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/gen/wwlike/listning/listning.htm#traxae

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Tribe Called Qwest

Wait, it's Q-Tip's fault my phone bill's so fucking high?

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

>>And Michael Freedberg says all the dark goth metal bands I love rip them off, too.)
Who is Michael Freedburg that he should be making such allegations?<<

Best disco critic ever (tied with Vince Alleti, actually). Still writes for the Boston Phoenix. Likes Toby Keith's new album a LOT.

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

Likes Toby Keith's new album a LOT.

Hmmmm...well, there's no arguin' with him then.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

Sometimes I wonder what an instrumental Toby Keith record would be like.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

The sounds of a badger being forcibly grated through the strings of an acoustic guitar.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

sorry, alex, that sisters of mercy crack was my doing.didn't mean anything mean by it. i've always thought that even if someone hated patti smith they would have to like that song cuz it's so cool and doomy. and now i can't get a non-existent type o negative version out of my head.i like the sister's version of gimme shelter better than the original. all goth covers are cool.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

I like their version of "I Wanna Be Your Dog" better than Sonic Youth's!

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:03 (twenty years ago) link

"From Metal Sludge's 20 Questions today with the drummer from Sum 41:
11. If you could put together the worst concert bill possible, what 5 bands would you put on it?
1.Jet
2.Journey
3.Patti Smith
4.Wham!
5.Glass Tiger"

Bands 1-4 are all better than Sum 41. Never heard of 5.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

I'm really glad he put no. 5 on there! Dude's reaffirming his canuck roots!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

and Sum 41 is better than Glass Tiger (sorry, di). And the jury's still out on Jet for me.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

Jet? Not by much, but they win over Sum 41.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

Never heard of 5.

"Dooooooon't for-gehht me when I'm gawwwwn..."

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

With guest vocals by BRYAN ADAMS!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

my friend Ned (NOT Raggett) saw the lead singer of Glass Tiger naked. He used to live in Canada and was at a swimming spa deal there and he got to talk to the guy in his birthday suit. If you've ever seen a Glass Tiger video you realize why I'm so glad I don't have that memory.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

Ned (NOT Raggett, the other Ned on my Friendster deal) was also 8 or something at the time.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

Your disclaimers are appreciated, as I was going to start wondering if I had repressed memories of being traumatized by Bryan Adams protegees appearing to me naked.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Let me just say I love how a Patti Smith thread led to a discussion of nude Bryan Adams proteges by way of an interview with Sum 41's drummer on Metal Sludge.

ONLY ON ILX!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

well now, who wouldn't want to see these guys nekkid?

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200_web/drp000/p051/p05157o188y.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

Guy in the back on the left is The Hermes of Mullets. He's been sent as a messenger to tell everyone about them and flies about on winged sandals, and takes dead mullets to Hades.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

i mean, "don't forget me when i'm gone" was like no 1 or something. i'm sure that quite a few groupies saw mr. glass-tiger-lead-singer in the buff in those days@!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

oh yeah, battle of the mullets -- glass tiger v. animotion:

http://www.animotionlive.com/images/1985/DonCharlesBill85.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

I like their version of "I Wanna Be Your Dog" better than Sonic Youth's!

wait, the sisters did i wanna be your dog too? i don't think i've ever heard it. cuz my favorite goth version of i wanna be your dog would be the world of skin version(and their cover of nick drake's blacked eyed dog is a favorite of mine as well)

― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

I prefer Gilda Radner's "Gimme Mick" to almost all Patti Smith. I don't get Horses.

― J (Jay), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 02:00 (twenty years ago) link

Candy Slice!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

Are Dakar and Grinser goth? I've found it hard to keep track.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

"And I never even heard a Tribe Called Qwest SONG I liked much, though honestly I haven't actually listed to *Low End Theory* in centuries. They always struck me as really prissy or contained or reserved or something. Is the debut the one I reviewed in Rolling Stone?"

The debut I find a bit tough to get into initially. When I first bought it, I thought of returning it, but it grew on me like killah fungus. So that I can understand. Its appeal is not immediate as the following two efforts would be. But prissy, contained, and reserved...MUTHAFOCK@#$%^&*(...Hell, I AM a Tribe head. They're my favorite rap group ever, and I'm pretty obnoxious and annoying. (But only on the Internet, baby!)

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:26 (twenty years ago) link

Back to the matter at hand, sorry I'm obsessing over this, but I'm being forced to write about it (Horses) for an as-yet-clearly-defined project being put together by a friend of mine. Listening to it again today (yes, I own it....begrudgingly), I can't help thinking that "Redondo Beach" may very well be the worst song ever recorded. I mean, it's so bad that it should've rendererd the rest of the album moot when it came out. It's ham-fisted stab at reggae makes Sting at his worst sound positively like Peter Tosh

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

eee-yohh. ee-yoh-oh.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

Keep it up.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:15 (twenty years ago) link

I...I....I....like Redondo Beach, but not as much as Free Money.

(or nude pictures of Animotion)

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Horses was transcendental when i first heard it, i knew of Patti Smith but expected her to sound very ....not sure what but just..different

I found myself transixed and playing songs over and over again and forcing others to listen to stuff

Alex in NYC, I love you but I fart in your general direction

― H (Heruy), Saturday, 13 November 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey man, whatever mows yer lawn.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 November 2004 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Sometimes I wonder what an instrumental Toby Keith record would be like.
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), December 3rd, 2003.
The sounds of a badger being forcibly grated through the strings of an acoustic guitar.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), December 3rd, 2003.

I do crack myself up. Someone's got to.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 November 2004 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Now let's get back to the Hermes of mullets.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 November 2004 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Moz covered Redondo Beach in L.A. I prefer his version, but am warming to PS in general.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 19 November 2004 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Its merits strenuously extolled by the likes of Bono and Michael Stipe

The very first sentence in this thread says it all really...

― De Doo Doo Doo De Da Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 19 November 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Bono and Michael Stipe like puppies. LET'S KILL SOME.

― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Horses is a fine LP, as are all the first four PSG albums (though "Piss Factory" beats them all)...but Patti's ended up being one of those people whom I respect but rarely, if ever, listen to.

― mike a, Friday, 19 November 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The most insane thing, as I started reading this thread, my wife was doing an comically exaggerated imitation of "Birdland" in the other room for no reason whatsoever. Yikes!

― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Have I mentioned how much I dislike this record?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 October 2005 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex, I disagree with you about PS & band. But the fact that you can hate 'em despite their NYC roots I find admirable, just like I admired the list of your favourite Southern bands I challenged you into producing on that other thread a coupla days ago. I'll never accuse you of regional chauvinism again!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 21 October 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

(And hey since NYC >> my own entire NATION music-wise, such arrogance woundn't be unjustified, anyways...)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 21 October 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i really hated this album too. my brother just picked up a copy on vinyl at a garage sale, and i still kinda hate it, but think it's ok in it's own little way.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 21 October 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"little"

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 21 October 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I love it, but on the wrong day it sounds like as awful as Alex describes. The only three Patti Smith songs I love without reservation are: "Kimberley," "Dancing Barefoot," and "Between The Southern Cross"

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 21 October 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

It's still vile.

― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Still great.

― filthy dylan, Saturday, 20 October 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't have strong feelings about her, but she makes a lot more sense if you consider her ties to Springsteen & Blue Oyster Cult, rather than Richard Hell or Television. And relating her to Ramones or Dead Boys doesn't make any sense at all, in retrospect.

― bendy, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

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In Damnation of...Horses by Patti Smith