1. How to fuck a talking dune buggy
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
but would any man just happen to know how to do all those things if those lists did not exist? "you have been judged and found wanting, sissypants" is the subtext i get there
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Kind of? Then again, remember the pic you posted of you having to tie a friend's tie? See, he should know how to do that.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel dumb when i don't know how to do something
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
And not to get way Fight Club or anything, but there are a lot of fatherless men out there who didn't exactly take up the mantle of "man of the house.'
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Myself very much among them.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's more like "you've been judged and found wanting, human being"
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
can change a tire, can't tie a tie
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
and I'm fully ok w/ that b/c ties are constricting in the neckal area
can barely do either one, myself. didn't know how to tie a tie until i was like 28? 29?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
the idea that i should know how to split logs for firewood or hang drywall just because i have a dick AND that my masculinity should be called into question for wanting that knowledge is just weird -- i can learn how if and when the need arises!
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
learn how to tie a tie ffs
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
its like really easy
it has nothing to do with your dick elmo
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
well splitting logs can, but it's really difficult
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Huh. Maybe my Christian-y childhood came in handy in this one way. When I got old enough that a clip-on became unseemly, Dad showed me the standard half-Windsor, and now it's like tying my shoes.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
tieing, even
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Splitting logs for firewood is actually rather fun. From what I've heard, hanging drywall is less so.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Linden Avenue Stomp
yeah it's sounds kinda. . .hard
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah seriously - the drywall in my apartment is already hung, and using firewood here would be a bit dangerous.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
wait
never mind
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i can learn how if and when the need arises!
Okay first of all YES YOU CAN, because you're open to the idea that you will be ABLE to do those things if you have to. Some people have already resolved to themselves that they will never be able to, so they won't.
But sometimes when the need arises it's kind of too late to learn? Dry-walling isn't really an emergency activity obv although it's less cool if you do it wrong the first 3 times and have to re-do it while your domestic partner watches spackle dry...but the willingness to do so is a v useful, commendable trait, imo. But like changing a tire at night in the rain or tying a tie when you're nervous and already late for something....these are not when you want to be "learning" things.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
already ignored, don't worry
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
re: splitting logs.. why would one need to learn how to chop something in half... i mean, it's quite hard to not know what you need to do???
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
that was meant to be with dan's post. anyway, i think learning news things, all the time, is useful as a human being, and it's also something you're supposed to do. hanging drywall could come in handy sometime, but if it's not for you no big deal right?
i just made my first pie crust from scratch--totally awesome experience, will do it again. has nothing to do with my masculinity/femininity, it has everything to do with trying to be a good huan being
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
human
Protip: if you ever need logs split, ken, please ask someone else to do it for you. If you like having 4 limbs, that is.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
we should be tearing down walls not building them fyi
― NEW YORK DESERVED MANGINI (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
definitely would take the protip and not cut my limb off.
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
knowing how to hang drywall is one of those things that is awesome and will save you a ton of $ if you want to re-do a room in your house or something like that, however the learning part suuucccccks
splitting is rly fun/easy if you have one of these
http://www.gvfarmmachinery.com.au/images/saleitems/implements/log500g.jpg
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
here u go im teaching u how to be a man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR4wfHw7Meo
easy beginner knot
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
que i am with you 100% about skill acquisition but on the topic of the thread, these list books are presenting these as gendered skills without which, well, you're just not manifesting your true manhood
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
btw is hanging drywall really on one of those lists - seems more like something every builder should know
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Yessssss! This is basic to the whole discussion -- but lots of people of BOTH genders don't know how to do stuff that used to be basic to either. Not that it redeems the douchebag ads but if we take any message away, it should be: Try to become a useful human being because you never know -- there's a reason your grandparents knew how to do stuff (Depression, war, times of need), and it could happen to you. Be prepared.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Here is a complete list of the tools I am proficient with:
screwdriverhammeradjustable wrenchpaint roller
I am lost if you hand me a saw, a ratchet, a planer, a trawl, a propane torch, etc etc.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Also because knowing stuff is super fun!
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
hanging drywall was just something i threw out there as an example of a difficult "masculine" skill tbh
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I can make a pie crust. My pie crusts have gotten rave reviews, actually. Granted, they were from my mother, but my mother would actually tell me if the pie crust sucked.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ratchets are for clapping IMO
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Right?...
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
just sayin' you're reading a lot into these books, probably stuff the writers of the books haven't considered or thought about. i doubt the authors of the books would think you weren't a real man.
Also because knowing stuff is super fun!
100% could not agree more
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Yessssss! This is basic to the whole discussion -- but lots of people of BOTH genders don't know how to do stuff that used to be basic to either
different people have different ideas of "basic", and this is fine, and worse than not knowing how to do stuff is being the kind of asshole who judges people based on whatever skill sets they have/don't have
― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Jesus, busy thread.
Just stopped in to say that this
http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/images/BodyGlide.jpg
puts an end to chub rub issues (chafing, aka in parts of the South as "galding" (sp?), in spanish "rosar").
― he's a light-hearted snake (Jesse), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
because knowing stuff is super fun!
YES! Valuing knowing how to do stuff leads inevitably to knowing how to do stuff. If you care, if it matters to you, even if it's just because it's fun, you'll figure it out.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
btw que i also recently made my first pie crust from scratch, too. let's have a bake-off to see who is more manly!
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
let's have a bake off to see who is more ~~delicious~~
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
also high fives, pie crusts rule
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I bet there are a lot more men in the world right now who can replace an ethernet card, program a nanny-cam, or repair a mother board than men who can build a deck. I do not think this makes then especially vaginal.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
(At least, I hope not.)