marketing of masculinity

wife tells me her dad did similar, just sub vw bug for the bus

But even w a windshield, the wind speed was BRUTAL over about 35 or 40 mph, so it was just for tooling around locally. Funny, I never tried wearing a helmet....

M, is your wife Midwestern/conservative in her origins, too?

texas, but her dad is pretty conservative

http://mjmbooks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Speed-Buggy.jpg

so jealous that Laurel's first car could talk and solve mysteries

xpost her dad is just a total gearhead. both her parents are bikers, and he's a wrecker driver by trade.

holy shit i forgot about fucking speed buggy until just now

that seems like an experience one would remember forever

LOL. adjective/modifier, not verb

I'm going to write a book about spending a year trying to learn to do all of the things in all of those 100 things a man should know how to do books.

1. How to fuck a talking dune buggy

but would any man just happen to know how to do all those things if those lists did not exist? "you have been judged and found wanting, sissypants" is the subtext i get there

Kind of? Then again, remember the pic you posted of you having to tie a friend's tie? See, he should know how to do that.

i feel dumb when i don't know how to do something

And not to get way Fight Club or anything, but there are a lot of fatherless men out there who didn't exactly take up the mantle of "man of the house.'

Myself very much among them.

it's more like "you've been judged and found wanting, human being"

can change a tire, can't tie a tie

and I'm fully ok w/ that b/c ties are constricting in the neckal area

can barely do either one, myself. didn't know how to tie a tie until i was like 28? 29?

the idea that i should know how to split logs for firewood or hang drywall just because i have a dick AND that my masculinity should be called into question for wanting that knowledge is just weird -- i can learn how if and when the need arises!

learn how to tie a tie ffs

its like really easy

it has nothing to do with your dick elmo

well splitting logs can, but it's really difficult

Huh. Maybe my Christian-y childhood came in handy in this one way. When I got old enough that a clip-on became unseemly, Dad showed me the standard half-Windsor, and now it's like tying my shoes.

tieing, even

Splitting logs for firewood is actually rather fun. From what I've heard, hanging drywall is less so.

Linden Avenue Stomp

yeah it's sounds kinda. . .hard

Yeah seriously - the drywall in my apartment is already hung, and using firewood here would be a bit dangerous.

wait

never mind

i can learn how if and when the need arises!

Okay first of all YES YOU CAN, because you're open to the idea that you will be ABLE to do those things if you have to. Some people have already resolved to themselves that they will never be able to, so they won't.

But sometimes when the need arises it's kind of too late to learn? Dry-walling isn't really an emergency activity obv although it's less cool if you do it wrong the first 3 times and have to re-do it while your domestic partner watches spackle dry...but the willingness to do so is a v useful, commendable trait, imo. But like changing a tire at night in the rain or tying a tie when you're nervous and already late for something....these are not when you want to be "learning" things.

already ignored, don't worry

re: splitting logs.. why would one need to learn how to chop something in half... i mean, it's quite hard to not know what you need to do???

that was meant to be with dan's post. anyway, i think learning news things, all the time, is useful as a human being, and it's also something you're supposed to do. hanging drywall could come in handy sometime, but if it's not for you no big deal right?

i just made my first pie crust from scratch--totally awesome experience, will do it again. has nothing to do with my masculinity/femininity, it has everything to do with trying to be a good huan being

human

Protip: if you ever need logs split, ken, please ask someone else to do it for you. If you like having 4 limbs, that is.

we should be tearing down walls not building them fyi

definitely would take the protip and not cut my limb off.

knowing how to hang drywall is one of those things that is awesome and will save you a ton of $ if you want to re-do a room in your house or something like that, however the learning part suuucccccks

splitting is rly fun/easy if you have one of these

http://www.gvfarmmachinery.com.au/images/saleitems/implements/log500g.jpg

here u go im teaching u how to be a man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR4wfHw7Meo

easy beginner knot

que i am with you 100% about skill acquisition but on the topic of the thread, these list books are presenting these as gendered skills without which, well, you're just not manifesting your true manhood

btw is hanging drywall really on one of those lists - seems more like something every builder should know

i just made my first pie crust from scratch--totally awesome experience, will do it again. has nothing to do with my masculinity/femininity, it has everything to do with trying to be a good huan being

Yessssss! This is basic to the whole discussion -- but lots of people of BOTH genders don't know how to do stuff that used to be basic to either. Not that it redeems the douchebag ads but if we take any message away, it should be: Try to become a useful human being because you never know -- there's a reason your grandparents knew how to do stuff (Depression, war, times of need), and it could happen to you. Be prepared.

Here is a complete list of the tools I am proficient with:

screwdriver
hammer
adjustable wrench
paint roller

I am lost if you hand me a saw, a ratchet, a planer, a trawl, a propane torch, etc etc.

xp Also because knowing stuff is super fun!

hanging drywall was just something i threw out there as an example of a difficult "masculine" skill tbh

I can make a pie crust. My pie crusts have gotten rave reviews, actually. Granted, they were from my mother, but my mother would actually tell me if the pie crust sucked.

ratchets are for clapping IMO